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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #30 - March 26, 2009, 02:30 PM

    Thanks, a.ghazali, PeruvianSkies and Berberella for your answers.

    Good Night
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #31 - March 26, 2009, 02:36 PM

    Please let me know what sect did you belong to, when you were Muslims.

    That is all.

    Thanks
    BMZ

    Are you doing a project?


    Something like that, Islame.

    It is not really a project but a study. Will let every one know after all the ex-Muslims have answered.

    BMZ


    That's not very ethical. You can't ask people a question and not tell them the reason until after everyone has answered!


    For the time being, please take PeruvianSies' comment as my answer. There is no hidden agenda or anything of the sort in my question. All have answered it sincerely and even you have done so.

    I hope I will get more answers.

    Good Night
    BMZ

  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #32 - March 26, 2009, 03:04 PM

    I was born into the average Turkish Sunni family.

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #33 - March 26, 2009, 03:13 PM

    I've been to Faith Freedom , mainly out of curiosity after seeing it mentioned here so much . I haven't read that many of his posts , a couple seemed sensible but he seems to be a bit obsessed with some bizarre conspiracy theory about Obama . You can't really blame him for being careful about his personal safety though , can you ? People have died over this stuff after all .


    Yes, he is obsessed with Obama.

    I think personal safety is not an issue. There is no Fatwa against the dubious character. It is just an excuse. The bastard lives in Canada, where he is safe.

    Hassan, a poster here and an ex-Muslim lives in London, can be seen on youtube and takes part in demonstrations, etc.
    No harm has come to him in London, where thousands of Muslims live.

    BMZ




    Yeah, but the difference between Ali Sina and Hassan is that Ali Sina is a total prick. If he spoke this way about ANY widely-held worldview/ideology/religion, I'd expect he'd be in danger of death-threats, harassment, or assaults. Hell, I'm not Muslim and I'd be tempted to clock him if I ran into him on the street, just because he's a total asshole. But I generally agree with you-- the man is a pussy, pandering to the worst right-wing hate-mongers, cowering behind his computer, which allows him to be a total dick without real-world consequences. There are a lot of people like Ali Sina on the internet, he just happens to have gotten famous, or infamous. What was the quote you had as your sig anyways? I missed it.

    fuck you
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #34 - March 26, 2009, 07:26 PM

    Oooh BMZ!

    I see our resident Holohoax Denier cum Lutherian Cult Christian blamer for Holohoax has decided to quote my little pearl of wishdom...  thnkyu Islamonazi!

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #35 - March 26, 2009, 08:05 PM

    Yeah, but the difference between Ali Sina and Hassan is that Ali Sina is a total prick. If he spoke this way about ANY widely-held worldview/ideology/religion, I'd expect he'd be in danger of death-threats, harassment, or assaults. Hell, I'm not Muslim and I'd be tempted to clock him if I ran into him on the street, just because he's a total asshole. But I generally agree with you-- the man is a pussy, pandering to the worst right-wing hate-mongers, cowering behind his computer, which allows him to be a total dick without real-world consequences. There are a lot of people like Ali Sina on the internet, he just happens to have gotten famous, or infamous.


    Great! So you'll clock him if you met him & all because? He speaks against Islam! Tongue
    There are loads of people like him, who speak against one or the other faith, or even against all faiths-they don't seem to be in danger of being clocked! Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Chris Hitchens & others who come from Judeo Christian backgrounds don't seem in imminent danger of being "clocked" either from their ex faiths or from left wing apologisits like you. However, movie makers like Theo Van Gogh have actually met brutal deaths for criticising Islam. The makers of 'Monty Python-the Life of Bryan" or even the "Last Temptation of Christ" haven't been murdered by Christians.

    There are similar annoying anti Christian websites in plenty- Steve Wells runs a site called Skeptics Annotated Bible & goes all out bashing the Biblical God. There are plentiful books by ex Christians like Bertrand Russell's "Why I am not a Christian, strongly criticising the Judeo Christian God, they're\were not clocked(by their ex faith members or by left wing apologists) & don't receive death threats.

    Jew turned atheist Noble Laureate Steven Weinberg has written long articles excoriating the Jewish God, he lived perfectly safely, while devout Muslim Abdus Salam received multiple death threats in his homeland Pakistan simply coz he belonged to the heretic Ahmadi sect of Islam.

    The best certain Islamic apologists can do seems to be accusing their opponents of pandering to right wingers, rather than proving their views wrong in a debate, probably coz they either hold views they're not sure of, or else they know that should they take on "pricks" like Sina or Spencer in a debate, they'd fall flat. Thats' why Karen Armstrong refuses to debate Robert Spencer, despite being repeatedly invited by Spencer to a debate, while still maintaining her view that Spencer is wrong. If Spencer or Sina are wrong, prove it in a debate.I'm not particularly fond of Sina, but if an ex Anglican like Dawkins can air his views despite the fact that the British Anglican Church is practically as progressive as one can get, an ex Muslim from theocratic Iran, where stonings are lagal punishments, certainly deserves the freedom to air his views too.

    Ali Sina is against Islam, he might want to hide behind a comp simply to avoid Van Gogh's fate, & it would certainly make his life much more uncomfortable to be under security 24\7 like Hirsi Ali.Sina's forum is open to all Muslims & left wing apologists who can debate non believers regarding Sina's views. Also Sina quotes from the Quran, Hadiths & Sira to explain why he thinks Islam or Prophet Mohammed will probably not go the way of Christianity ie they'll probably not reform. If you're so confident that he's wrong, why do you not do a thorough reading of the sources he's referring to as well as other sources & try to beat him in an online debate? He's open for a debate with anyone, at anytime-& all his debates remain on his site.

    My bad. I forgot you have a distaste for reading, you prefer broadcasting crude personal details rather than expanding your knowledge, engaging in a sincere debate & trying to prove your opponent wrong.  Roll Eyes

    I don't even see you feeling tempted to clock  the Chechen President who wholeheartedly endorsed the honor killings of 7 young women & encouraged his countrymen to carry out more such murders...

    Different strokes for different folks I guess...Its best to leave the fate of other Chechen women who might be victims of honor killings to other dumb right wing folks, while you embark on the much more serious mission of clocking Sina who runs a website criticising a particular faith.  whistling2








    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #36 - March 26, 2009, 08:21 PM

    Yeah, but the difference between Ali Sina and Hassan is that Ali Sina is a total prick. If he spoke this way about ANY widely-held worldview/ideology/religion, I'd expect he'd be in danger of death-threats, harassment, or assaults. Hell, I'm not Muslim and I'd be tempted to clock him if I ran into him on the street, just because he's a total asshole. But I generally agree with you-- the man is a pussy, pandering to the worst right-wing hate-mongers, cowering behind his computer, which allows him to be a total dick without real-world consequences. There are a lot of people like Ali Sina on the internet, he just happens to have gotten famous, or infamous.


    Great! So you'll clock him if you met him & all because? He speaks against Islam! Tongue
    There are loads of people like him, who speak against one or the other faith, or even against all faiths-they don't seem to be in danger of being clocked! Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Chris Hitchens & others who come from Judeo Christian backgrounds don't seem in imminent danger of being "clocked" either from their ex faiths or from left wing apologisits like you. However, movie makers like Theo Van Gogh have actually met brutal deaths for criticising Islam. The makers of 'Monty Python-the Life of Bryan" or even the "Last Temptation of Christ" haven't been murdered by Christians.

    There are similar annoying anti Christian websites in plenty- Steve Wells runs a site called Skeptics Annotated Bible & goes all out bashing the Biblical God. There are plentiful books by ex Christians like Bertrand Russell's "Why I am not a Christian, strongly criticising the Judeo Christian God, they're\were not clocked(by their ex faith members or by left wing apologists) & don't receive death threats.

    Jew turned atheist Noble Laureate Steven Weinberg has written long articles excoriating the Jewish God, he lived perfectly safely, while devout Muslim Abdus Salam received multiple death threats in his homeland Pakistan simply coz he belonged to the heretic Ahmadi sect of Islam.

    The best certain Islamic apologists can do seems to be accusing their opponents of pandering to right wingers, rather than proving their views wrong in a debate, probably coz they either hold views they're not sure of, or else they know that should they take on "pricks" like Sina or Spencer in a debate, they'd fall flat. Thats' why Karen Armstrong refuses to debate Robert Spencer, despite being repeatedly invited by Spencer to a debate, while still maintaining her view that Spencer is wrong. If Spencer or Sina are wrong, prove it in a debate.I'm not particularly fond of Sina, but if an ex Anglican like Dawkins can air his views despite the fact that the British Anglican Church is practically as progressive as one can get, an ex Muslim from theocratic Iran, where stonings are lagal punishments, certainly deserves the freedom to air his views too.

    Ali Sina is against Islam, he might want to hide behind a comp simply to avoid Van Gogh's fate, & it would certainly make his life much more uncomfortable to be under security 24\7 like Hirsi Ali.Sina's forum is open to all Muslims & left wing apologists who can debate non believers regarding Sina's views. Also Sina quotes from the Quran, Hadiths & Sira to explain why he thinks Islam or Prophet Mohammed will probably not go the way of Christianity ie they'll probably not reform. If you're so confident that he's wrong, why do you not do a thorough reading of the sources he's referring to as well as other sources & try to beat him in an online debate? He's open for a debate with anyone, at anytime-& all his debates remain on his site.

    My bad. I forgot you have a distaste for reading, you prefer broadcasting crude personal details rather than expanding your knowledge, engaging in a sincere debate & trying to prove your opponent wrong.  Roll Eyes

    I don't even see you feeling tempted to clock  the Chechen President who wholeheartedly endorsed the honor killings of 7 young women & encouraged his countrymen to carry out more such murders...

    Different strokes for different folks I guess...Its best to leave the fate of other Chechen women who might be victims of honor killings to other dumb right wing folks, while you embark on the much more serious mission of clocking Sina who runs a website criticising a particular faith.  whistling2


    If you don't criticise absolutely everything about Islam, and don't constantly criticise Muslims, that does not make you a left wing apologist. That actually makes you quite an intelligent person who has the ability of seeing both sides of an argument.  whistling2

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #37 - March 26, 2009, 08:31 PM

    Rashna, Ali Sina is not an asshole because he criticises Islam. He's an asshole because he's an asshole. There's a difference.

    Of course, Ali Sina may well be of the opinion that I am an asshole too. You get that.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #38 - March 26, 2009, 08:33 PM

    @Rashna.

    The problem with Ali Sina is not that he makes open criticisms of Islam, its that he seems unbalanced on so many other subjects, its hard to trust anything he says.  He believes in alien abductions, therapy to "cure" homosexuals, liberalism is a mental illness, Obama is a granny killing, secret muslim, closet gay who faked his birth cert and anyone who says otherwise is a blind worshipper of Obama!

    That doesn't mean everything he says is wrong, in fact a lot of his criticisms of Islam are correct, it just means you can't trust the conclusions he draws from those criticisms - ie, muslims are less than human, all should be deported out of the west, etc.  His worldview is unbalanced, despite the fact that he is right about some things, and many of his debates with muslim apologists are well worth a read.

    @Aliadiere

    Rashna herself has recognised that there are positives to Islam, eg, the lower HIV rate in muslim countries, so I would say she is an intelligent person who is quite capable of seeing both sides of the argument.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #39 - March 26, 2009, 08:49 PM



    My bad. I forgot you have a distaste for reading, you prefer broadcasting crude personal details rather than expanding your knowledge, engaging in a sincere debate & trying to prove your opponent wrong.  Roll Eyes



    Really? phwoar, where?  Tongue

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #40 - March 26, 2009, 08:50 PM

    If you don't criticise absolutely everything about Islam, and don't constantly criticise Muslims, that does not make you a left wing apologist. That actually makes you quite an intelligent person who has the ability of seeing both sides of an argument.  whistling2


    Sure, but wanting to "clock" someone for his views doesn't make you an intelligent person in the least, it shows that either there's something lacking in your argumantative skills, or that you hold views you can't justify.If anyone is suggesting a clocking, they're certainly not sane, intelligent people.

    I don't think anyone can have all perfect views, but if there's room for Yusuf al Qaradawi's views, there should be room for Sina's as well?

    Qaradawi has an unbalanced worldview as well, he praises suicide attacks in Israel & supports female circumcision(while recognizing that its not mandatory in Islam) he says that any father who feels that it'd be the best for his daughter should do it.

    Iin the marketplace of ideas, where the Archbishop of the Anglican church speaks of introducing Shariah, where BBC's Mark Thompson says that Islam should be treated more sensitively than other faiths-there shouldn't be room for other types of views as well?

    Sina has unbalanced ideas, so do many Mulllahs, so do the site Rapture Ready-a right wing Christian fundie site, so do many posters on Ummah.com & Islamonline.
    In the marketplace of ideas, let them all air their ideas-& let the best ideas win! And unless anyone actually proves himself dangerous by actually murdering someone-let there be no clocking against anyone.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #41 - March 26, 2009, 08:51 PM

    On a serious note though, Ali Sina is a mental fruit cake.  He wasn't so irrational when I first stumbled onto FFI, he seemed to make so much sense.  It's just when he statred describing muslims as sub human and not worthy of full human treatment until they left Islam that it became a problem to be there.

    I don't care how much knowledge he has on ISLAM, his dogged grotesque attitude towards muslims as a whole ruins his credibility.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #42 - March 26, 2009, 08:52 PM

    One other point, how do you, rashna, know that Q-man isn't as willing and ready to clock the mullahs and the chechen whatever that you referred to?

    You sort of leaped on him and made unbased accusations about his stance.  wacko

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #43 - March 26, 2009, 08:54 PM

    Quote
    Qaradawi has an unbalanced worldview as well, he praises suicide attacks in Israel & supports female circumcision(while recognizing that its not mandatory in Islam) he says that any father who feels that it'd be the best for his daughter should do it.


    OK, how about if I clock Yusuf al-Qaradawi, while Q-Man clocks Ali Sina? 

    To be strictly fair I should be given a weapon, because Q undoubtedly packs a harder punch than I do.  So  I'll whack Qaradawi in the nuts with a big stick and Q can punch Sina.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #44 - March 26, 2009, 08:59 PM



    My bad. I forgot you have a distaste for reading, you prefer broadcasting crude personal details rather than expanding your knowledge, engaging in a sincere debate & trying to prove your opponent wrong.  Roll Eyes



    Really? phwoar, where?  Tongue


    One other point, how do you, rashna, know that Q-man isn't as willing and ready to clock the mullahs and the chechen whatever that you referred to?

    You sort of leaped on him and made unbased accusations about his stance.  wacko


    Okay, I'll apologise if I were rash. Here's the answers to your two questions Berbs. Check out the last few posts. http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=4686.0

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #45 - March 26, 2009, 09:02 PM

    If you don't criticise absolutely everything about Islam, and don't constantly criticise Muslims, that does not make you a left wing apologist. That actually makes you quite an intelligent person who has the ability of seeing both sides of an argument.  whistling2


    Sure, but wanting to "clock" someone for his views doesn't make you an intelligent person in the least, it shows that either there's something lacking in your argumantative skills, or that you hold views you can't justify.If anyone is suggesting a clocking, they're certainly not sane, intelligent people.

    Bullshit.

    You're right up to "in the least". Wanting to "clock" someone does not make you intelligent. On the other hand it does not make you unintelligent either. In fact it says nothing whatsoever about the level of your intelligence.

    Nor, for that matter, does it say anything about your argumentative skills. You may well be able to argue in terms that would induce drop-jawed awe at your lucidity and rapture over your exquisite use of language and still feel like thumping your opponent with a large, frozen haddock.

    It also does not necessarily mean that your views are unjustifiable. They may or may not be, but this has nothing to do with your emotional desire to chop your opponent into tiny bits and jump up and down on them because you find him to be an utterly insufferable twat.

    You can wish to do all these things while still being sane and intelligent.  parrot

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #46 - March 26, 2009, 09:04 PM

    Quote
    Qaradawi has an unbalanced worldview as well, he praises suicide attacks in Israel & supports female circumcision(while recognizing that its not mandatory in Islam) he says that any father who feels that it'd be the best for his daughter should do it.


    OK, how about if I clock Yusuf al-Qaradawi, while Q-Man clocks Ali Sina? 

    To be strictly fair I should be given a weapon, because Q undoubtedly packs a harder punch than I do.  So  I'll whack Qaradawi in the nuts with a big stick and Q can punch Sina.

    I like this idea and thoroughly approve. Am happy to supply the big stick if required.   bunny

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #47 - March 26, 2009, 09:14 PM

    Quote
    Qaradawi has an unbalanced worldview as well, he praises suicide attacks in Israel & supports female circumcision(while recognizing that its not mandatory in Islam) he says that any father who feels that it'd be the best for his daughter should do it.


    OK, how about if I clock Yusuf al-Qaradawi, while Q-Man clocks Ali Sina? 

    To be strictly fair I should be given a weapon, because Q undoubtedly packs a harder punch than I do.  So  I'll whack Qaradawi in the nuts with a big stick and Q can punch Sina.


    Sure, you can both go ahead & do those. On the other hand, maybe the best course of action would be to put forth you better ideas regarding them.

    Qaradawi has been successfully dealt with by other Egyptians who speak against female circumcision as to how they're absolutely against Islam,because of the harm they cause to women's minds & bodies, & fewer & fewer Egyptian girls are circumcised.

    There are many sites answering Faith Freedom as well as sites like CEMB & T.R.A.S.H. ers who preach against Islam(& other faiths) but are far milder.

    There's a site like Rapture Ready, there're sites like Richard Dawkins Net too.


    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #48 - March 26, 2009, 09:16 PM

    I think this debate should move elsewhere because this thread was originally about madhab!

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #49 - March 26, 2009, 09:24 PM



    My bad. I forgot you have a distaste for reading, you prefer broadcasting crude personal details rather than expanding your knowledge, engaging in a sincere debate & trying to prove your opponent wrong.  Roll Eyes



    Really? phwoar, where?  Tongue


    Oh she's talking about a debate where I mentioned masturbation in passing. She got offended and I explained it was not meant to offend, it's simply my crude, very casual style of speaking and that I rarely censor myself online or off. Then when I realized how old she was I said I'd avoid mentioning such crude topics in future discussions with her. But apparently she still wants to hold that against me. I don't think it's fair, but I can't really get too upset with her, because for a 14-year-old she is clearly capable of more mature and rational discussion than most adults, so I figure I can cut her some slack.

    fuck you
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #50 - March 26, 2009, 09:25 PM

    It's ok, I read it, I was wholly let down, I was hoping for more.  Tongue

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #51 - March 26, 2009, 09:31 PM

    Quote
    Qaradawi has an unbalanced worldview as well, he praises suicide attacks in Israel & supports female circumcision(while recognizing that its not mandatory in Islam) he says that any father who feels that it'd be the best for his daughter should do it.


    OK, how about if I clock Yusuf al-Qaradawi, while Q-Man clocks Ali Sina? 

    To be strictly fair I should be given a weapon, because Q undoubtedly packs a harder punch than I do.  So  I'll whack Qaradawi in the nuts with a big stick and Q can punch Sina.


    Deal. For the record, I think there are a lot of people out there who deserve to be knocked around a bit, and for most of them it has nothing to do with their ideology-- just a lot of assholes in this world. I don't get in physical altercations anymore if I can help it, as a few trips to jail and the hospital have helped me grow up when it comes to keeping my temper in check, but it doesn't mean that I don't feel like some people deserve it. Some of the Islamic extremists Rashna mentioned deserve much more than a beating. Just because I'm generally willing to give Muslims (or anyone else) the benefit of the doubt, that shouldn't be confused with appeasement or pacifism.

    fuck you
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #52 - March 26, 2009, 09:32 PM

    It's ok, I read it, I was wholly let down, I was hoping for more.  Tongue


    Don't worry, things have been slow lately, but when they pick up I'll be sure to post about it. Smiley

    fuck you
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #53 - March 26, 2009, 10:12 PM

    Sunni muslims, hanafi madhab - also anti-pir, fakir nonsense.

    "At 8:47 I do a grenade jump off a ladder."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #54 - March 27, 2009, 03:24 AM

    I was born into the average Turkish Sunni family.


    Thank you, Zaephon.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #55 - March 27, 2009, 03:41 AM

    I've been to Faith Freedom , mainly out of curiosity after seeing it mentioned here so much . I haven't read that many of his posts , a couple seemed sensible but he seems to be a bit obsessed with some bizarre conspiracy theory about Obama . You can't really blame him for being careful about his personal safety though , can you ? People have died over this stuff after all .


    Yes, he is obsessed with Obama.

    I think personal safety is not an issue. There is no Fatwa against the dubious character. It is just an excuse. The bastard lives in Canada, where he is safe.

    Hassan, a poster here and an ex-Muslim lives in London, can be seen on youtube and takes part in demonstrations, etc.
    No harm has come to him in London, where thousands of Muslims live.

    BMZ




    Yeah, but the difference between Ali Sina and Hassan is that Ali Sina is a total prick. If he spoke this way about ANY widely-held worldview/ideology/religion, I'd expect he'd be in danger of death-threats, harassment, or assaults. Hell, I'm not Muslim and I'd be tempted to clock him if I ran into him on the street, just because he's a total asshole. But I generally agree with you-- the man is a pussy, pandering to the worst right-wing hate-mongers, cowering behind his computer, which allows him to be a total dick without real-world consequences. There are a lot of people like Ali Sina on the internet, he just happens to have gotten famous, or infamous. What was the quote you had as your sig anyways? I missed it.


    Indeed Ali Sina is a total prick.

    I had extracted the quote from here:

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11566&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

    Another interesting link is where another FFI goon ygalg is active on Israel Forum, selling them Ali Sina and the best joke is that Ali Sina called the God of Jews, a Narcissist.  Cheesy

    http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=14173

    And the quote was:

    Quote from: Ali Sina
    I don?t want to see good people die while Muslim scumbags live and take the world.


    Thanks for asking, mate.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #56 - March 27, 2009, 03:43 AM

    Rashna, Ali Sina is not an asshole because he criticises Islam. He's an asshole because he's an asshole. There's a difference.

    Of course, Ali Sina may well be of the opinion that I am an asshole too. You get that.


     Cheesy

    Well said.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #57 - March 27, 2009, 04:28 AM



    My bad. I forgot you have a distaste for reading, you prefer broadcasting crude personal details rather than expanding your knowledge, engaging in a sincere debate & trying to prove your opponent wrong.  Roll Eyes



    Really? phwoar, where?  Tongue


    Oh she's talking about a debate where I mentioned masturbation in passing. She got offended and I explained it was not meant to offend, it's simply my crude, very casual style of speaking and that I rarely censor myself online or off. Then when I realized how old she was I said I'd avoid mentioning such crude topics in future discussions with her. But apparently she still wants to hold that against me. I don't think it's fair, but I can't really get too upset with her, because for a 14-year-old she is clearly capable of more mature and rational discussion than most adults, so I figure I can cut her some slack.

    This is for Rashna: "The Dreaded "M" Word" by Jocelyn Elders M.D.

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #58 - March 27, 2009, 06:07 AM

    The Dreaded "M" Word[/url]" by Jocelyn Elders M.D.


    Thanks awais!  grin12 Actually, the first time I heard the word was in sex- ed class, the second time in this forum when Q-Man mentioned it.
    First time round, we had a teacher who couldn't wait to finish what she was reading from her book about the M-Word, she was sooo embarrased herself!  Tongue

    Second time, I asked Q-Man to read up on some other nations' Partitions by the Brits, he started using the M-word instead!

    This website almost deifies the m-thing!  Roll Eyes

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #59 - March 27, 2009, 06:14 AM

    Indeed Ali Sina is a total prick.
    I had extracted the quote from here:
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11566&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
    Another interesting link is where another FFI goon ygalg is active on Israel Forum, selling them Ali Sina and the best joke is that Ali Sina called the God of Jews, a Narcissist.  Cheesy
    http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=14173
    And the quote was:
    Quote from: Ali Sina
    I don?t want to see good people die while Muslim scumbags live and take the world.

    Thanks for asking, mate.
    BMZ


    Sina's a prick & you're a Holohoax denier, but claim 6-20 million Jews died in that alleged Holohoax, killed by Lutherian Cult Christians!

    I'd always thought "Birds of a feather flock together? Huh?

    Guess two pricks of different ideologies can't stand each other after all! dance

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
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