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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #210 - April 04, 2009, 07:20 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 04, 2009, 07:04 AM
    Quote from: Zaephon on April 04, 2009, 06:42 AM
    Yes, I hate dishonesty too. I hate people who deny the Holocaust saying that they will bring some irrefutable evidence, then cower from discussing their pathetic opinions.

     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


    You better discuss the "Holocaust" of the Armenians and others.  Cheesy I never cower from anything. When I find a topic will lead to intellectual masturbation, I do not entertain.

    By the way, have you produced and compared the Jewish population in German-occupied Europe just before and after the war? Have you produced any charts or references or proofs in that topic? I will take a look after the current debate is over.

    Cheers
    BMZ 




    You made the statement, burden of proof is on you, mate.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #211 - April 04, 2009, 09:03 AM
    OK, guys. We will discuss the Genocide of the Jews, later.

    Right now, I have time for the debate only and some short posts.

    Cheers
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #212 - April 04, 2009, 10:08 AM

    Quote from: Mr X
    I have been reading this since BMZ started with Skynight. I wanted to add a piece of comment so I registerd today. I'm from Saudi Arabia and I do agree with BMZ, not just because I'm a Muslim but because his Logic makes sense. This is the genius of this language that You wouldn't speak directly or literrally but with the help pf examples and specific names you express what are you trying to say. "Sons of the Desert" means the inhabitants of Deserts. Abu Jahal literally means "Father of Ignorance" which doesn't mean that He's actually the father, but it signifies that He is on the Top os ignorance. The verse can be understood the way BMZ and many other Translators have translated it. People in Saudi Arabia do not speak the Arabic "Litrature" in their daily life, We speak EASY arabic which is not 100% quranic arabic, that's why its obvious for someone to doubt. But for a learned person Who learned arabic it's easy to understand what it means. I must confess, as far as I have seen, BMZ understands the Quranic arabic way more better than a Saudi Arabic "speaking" people.


    Bmz understands arabic more than saudi speakers? IS that a joke?YOu have quoted some metaphorical phrases and reached a conclusion that since these phrases are metaphorical its alright if BMz interprets kursi  as metaphor. Now just because these phrases can be interpreted metaphorically does it mean that kursi too can be interpreted metaphorically?

    What sort of stupid logic is that?  Its like saying I like bread and hence you too must be liking it .No arabic lexicon allows you to use Khursi as metaphorical. Now saying that this is classical arabic is stupidity. DId quran ever gave you a list of classical arabic verses and a list of literal verses?  This is an assumption on your part . Let me clarify that one who calls it metaphorical needs to provide proof to make that claim and not the one who interprets literally because literal interpretation is natural and  a default one.

     TO go out of the way one needs to explain why anyone should be doing that.  Khursi literally means chair. So by default khursi needs to be interpreted literally but if one wants to go out of the way then he should be providing proof as to why it should be taken metaphorically. The burden of proof lies on you because you want to interpret it in a way other than the standard. SO far you have and BMz have given no proofs.



    Quote from: Mr X
    Now We arabic speakers don't read Translations and we do read the Kursi every time, Yet we don't understand that God is sitting on a "Chair" or something. In the same way, We read the Word "Malik" which means King in arabic, Yet we don't understand it as He's a "King" with a Throne and a crown sitting somewhere, No. This is the form of speech to make people undertsnad 1400 years ago.


    This is a joke . DO you think those illiterate Bedouins understood classical arabic? Forget them not even modern arabic speaking people understand it properly eventhough being highly educated.  Please tell me can a book which calls itself easy to understand have metaphorical verses? Thats a joke and you slamming qurans claim of easy to understand. MEtaphorical verses are not easy to understand.




    Quote from: Mr X
    Somebody asked the Prophet, How deep is the Hell? Now what was the Reply? Prophet pbuh didn't say It so and so Kilometer or something.. To make people understand of that Time, He said "if you drop a stome and it keeps falling for 70 years, that Deep".

    The allaged contradiction by skynight is not actually a "Contradiction". The answer in the nutshell can also be that "God would make them see what He wants" FINISH.



    But your friend doesnt believe in any source other than quran so how can one take into account these claims of prophet saying so and so  ? Further just because muhhamad used metaphorical verses in one place how does that mean that he must be have spoken  metaphorically in the verse under discussion?  On what basis do you establish such relation?  This is called pathetic logic.Here is also a hadith that describes muhhamad otherwise saying exact figures . SO you have no point really.


    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Qais Al-Ashari: The Prophet said, "A tent (in Paradise) is like a hollow pearl which is thirty miles in height and on every corner of the tent the believer will have a family that cannot be seen by the others." (Narrated Abu Imran in another narration, "(The tent is) sixty miles (in height)") [Sahih Bukhari: Book #54, Hadith #466]
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #213 - April 04, 2009, 10:09 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 04, 2009, 03:48 AM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 04, 2009, 03:37 AM

    I hate dishonesty. You are being dishonest here in translating the meaning of "Kursi" . IF you are doing that despite no arabic speaker agreeing with you then what is the point of debate? Why did we keep a condition that arabic speakers may interrupt the debate when you say something regarding arabic?IT makes no sense since you have already decided you are right and you are not going to accept what they say .

    Btw how can you compare the above verses in english with arabic? DOes arabic kursi allow a connotative meaning? The answer is no so there is no reason why we take it as connotative.


    Same here. I hate dishonesty and that is why, I accepted your challenge. Late last night, there was a gentleman from Saudi Arabia, by the name Mr. X, who agreed with me.

    Why do you not accept that Arabic speaker's view?

    I will explain more in the debate section as we go along, provided you wish to continue or alternatively you may start discussing something else.

    BMZ



    I have refuted your friend.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #214 - April 04, 2009, 12:43 PM
    Quote from: BMZ
    Ali Sina's FFI (Faith Freedom International) members are famous for having dozens of nicknames and keep on writing to 'themselves'


    You are right in the case of at least one former member of FFI who went with the nick of BMZ Smiley
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #215 - April 04, 2009, 01:48 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on April 04, 2009, 12:43 PM
    Quote from: BMZ
    Ali Sina's FFI (Faith Freedom International) members are famous for having dozens of nicknames and keep on writing to 'themselves'


    You are right in the case of at least one former member of FFI who went with the nick of BMZ Smiley


    Yes, me too, Charles. But you see I used various nicks only when one nick was banned after another, while FFI elite
    has carried many through out and still do.  Wink

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #216 - April 04, 2009, 01:50 PM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 04, 2009, 10:09 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 04, 2009, 03:48 AM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 04, 2009, 03:37 AM

    I hate dishonesty. You are being dishonest here in translating the meaning of "Kursi" . IF you are doing that despite no arabic speaker agreeing with you then what is the point of debate? Why did we keep a condition that arabic speakers may interrupt the debate when you say something regarding arabic?IT makes no sense since you have already decided you are right and you are not going to accept what they say .

    Btw how can you compare the above verses in english with arabic? DOes arabic kursi allow a connotative meaning? The answer is no so there is no reason why we take it as connotative.


    Same here. I hate dishonesty and that is why, I accepted your challenge. Late last night, there was a gentleman from Saudi Arabia, by the name Mr. X, who agreed with me.

    Why do you not accept that Arabic speaker's view?

    I will explain more in the debate section as we go along, provided you wish to continue or alternatively you may start discussing something else.

    BMZ



    I have refuted your friend.


    Okay, but which one?

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #217 - April 04, 2009, 04:03 PM
    SNB,

    I have posted the second response.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #218 - April 04, 2009, 04:07 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 04, 2009, 04:03 PM
    SNB,

    I have posted the second response.

    BMZ

    Fine
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #219 - April 06, 2009, 05:22 AM
    @skynightblaze

    I have posted my response to both of your latest posts.

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #220 - April 06, 2009, 05:24 AM
    @ Muslims, if any reading and following the debate here:

    Please do not discuss the word Arsh in any topic here or in the Ringside Seats.

    Salaams
    Baig M Z
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #221 - April 06, 2009, 07:02 AM
    why?
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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #222 - April 06, 2009, 07:29 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on April 06, 2009, 07:02 AM
    why?


    lol!

    I want SNB to remain exactly in the tight spot, where he is now.
    Please don't ask me more, Islame.  Wink

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #223 - April 06, 2009, 07:38 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 06, 2009, 05:24 AM
    @ Muslims, if any reading and following the debate here:

    Please do not discuss the word Arsh in any topic here or in the Ringside Seats.

    Salaams
    Baig M Z


    Curiousity and defiance put together..

    'Arsh' means 'throne', right? In contrast to 'kursi's 'chair' or 'foot stool', yes? Wink
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #224 - April 06, 2009, 07:45 AM
    Quote from: awais on April 06, 2009, 07:38 AM
    Curiousity and defiance put together..

    Arsh means throne right, in contrast to kursi's 'chair' or 'foot stool' yes? Wink


    It does but depends on the context and application of the word in a sentence. In fact, I avoided using that word, I did use stool.

    The biblical God used it excessively to make foot-stools of many.  Cheesy

    Pssst! Not too much.  Wink

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #225 - April 06, 2009, 09:15 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 06, 2009, 07:29 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on April 06, 2009, 07:02 AM
    why?


    lol!

    I want SNB to remain exactly in the tight spot, where he is now.
    Please don't ask me more, Islame.  Wink

    BMZ


    Bmz believe me logic is much superior than arabic .  Cheesy
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #226 - April 06, 2009, 12:22 PM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 06, 2009, 09:15 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 06, 2009, 07:29 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on April 06, 2009, 07:02 AM
    why?


    lol!

    I want SNB to remain exactly in the tight spot, where he is now.
    Please don't ask me more, Islame.  Wink

    BMZ


    Bmz believe me logic is much superior than arabic .  Cheesy


    Should have been "superior to". Right? Logic in English is never right, SNB.  Wink
    Good fun.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #227 - April 07, 2009, 02:43 AM
    Hello, SNB

    I have posted a note in response to your churlish reply #22. Please answer a very important question, which I have asked you.
    Do not avoid the question and do not back out from the debate. I will try my best not to make it painful for you.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #228 - April 07, 2009, 03:36 AM
    @charleslemartel

    I am so glad that BerberElla has made it an impregnable One on One Topic. Haven't you read
    your friend's post #22? Your FFI friend really needs help.  Cheesy

    Leaving aside his shenanigans, I have asked him a serious question, which he is trying to avoid. Hope he replies. Please ask
    FFI to provide him additional misinformation, as soon as possible.  Wink

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #229 - April 07, 2009, 12:32 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 07, 2009, 03:36 AM
    @charleslemartel

    I am so glad that BerberElla has made it an impregnable One on One Topic. Haven't you read
    your friend's post #22? Your FFI friend really needs help.  Cheesy

    Leaving aside his shenanigans, I have asked him a serious question, which he is trying to avoid. Hope he replies. Please ask
    FFI to provide him additional misinformation, as soon as possible.  Wink

    BMZ


    But I feel sad that Islam has apparently made your brain impregnable ( I apologize in advance if that hurts you). Read my post in the comments thread and see how skynightblaze has already answered your question; too bad that you cannot see it. It is you who needs help and not him.

    Read his post again, and this time read it for comprehending; do not simply recite his post like you do with Quran. It is silly to keep asking for answer when it is already given and is there for everyone to see, read and understand. If you can see his answer and find some problems with it, you are expected to ask him to clarify further if you wish.

    EDIT: And one more thing, your too transparent attempts to rally members of COEM behind you by invoking FFI again and again has not worked yet, and it is not going to work in the future either.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #230 - April 07, 2009, 12:36 PM
    I agree. Attempting to rely on willful blindness and an excess of smileys is not going to impress anyone.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #231 - April 07, 2009, 03:04 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on April 07, 2009, 12:36 PM
    I agree. Attempting to rely on willful blindness and an excess of smileys is not going to impress anyone.


    Depends upon your location on the fence. Smileys are very effective for response to posters, who exhibit oral diarrhoea.

    As for myself, I don't use low-class language commonly used by posters. For example, you will never see me writing a poster the way, my opponent wrote. Perhaps you did not read.

    Examples extracted:

    "More nonsense from this troll!!!" I have to use these words because its becoming disgusting  for me to tolerate his lies and dishonesty.

    I was forced to repeat the same things again and again and thats why I found it disgusting to show his stupidity

    SO anyone can see to what level of dishonesty this person can go to just to make his case.

    People use filthy language and I use smileys for a person, who provides Cop Out and ridiculous answers. I did indicate the use of smileys and emoticons earlier. May be you took no notice of that.

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #232 - April 07, 2009, 03:12 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 07, 2009, 03:04 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on April 07, 2009, 12:36 PM
    I agree. Attempting to rely on willful blindness and an excess of smileys is not going to impress anyone.


    Depends upon your location on the fence. Smileys are very effective for response to posters, who exhibit oral diarrhoea.

    As for myself, I don't use low-class language commonly used by posters. For example, you will never see me writing a poster the way, my opponent wrote. Perhaps you did not read.

    Examples extracted:

    "More nonsense from this troll!!!" I have to use these words because its becoming disgusting  for me to tolerate his lies and dishonesty.

    I was forced to repeat the same things again and again and thats why I found it disgusting to show his stupidity

    SO anyone can see to what level of dishonesty this person can go to just to make his case.

    People use filthy language and I use smileys for a person, who provides Cop Out and ridiculous answers. I did indicate the use of smileys and emoticons earlier. May be you took no notice of that.

    Cheers
    BMZ


    Calling spade a spade is not abuse. Respect is something that needs to be earned. Unlike you I respect Ahmed Bahgat very much . I appreciate his honesty and I even apologized to him previously for using rough language against him for which he removed me from his life dismissal list .  I think it was worth apologizing since the guy really has some quality . The reason I am hostile towards you is because of your dishonesty and making fun of FFI. BEar in mind I havent forgotten whatever you did with khalil on FFI . Revenge is in my blood and I shall seek it.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #233 - April 07, 2009, 03:21 PM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 07, 2009, 03:12 PM
    I respect Ahmed Bahgat very much . .. the guy really has some quality

      Huh?  Cheesy
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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #234 - April 07, 2009, 03:27 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on April 07, 2009, 12:32 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 07, 2009, 03:36 AM
    @charleslemartel

    I am so glad that BerberElla has made it an impregnable One on One Topic. Haven't you read
    your friend's post #22? Your FFI friend really needs help.  Cheesy

    Leaving aside his shenanigans, I have asked him a serious question, which he is trying to avoid. Hope he replies. Please ask
    FFI to provide him additional misinformation, as soon as possible.  Wink

    BMZ


    But I feel sad that Islam has apparently made your brain impregnable ( I apologize in advance if that hurts you). Read my post in the comments thread and see how skynightblaze has already answered your question; too bad that you cannot see it. It is you who needs help and not him.

    Read his post again, and this time read it for comprehending; do not simply recite his post like you do with Quran. It is silly to keep asking for answer when it is already given and is there for everyone to see, read and understand. If you can see his answer and find some problems with it, you are expected to ask him to clarify further if you wish.

    EDIT: And one more thing, your too transparent attempts to rally members of COEM behind you by invoking FFI again and again has not worked yet, and it is not going to work in the future either.


    Charles,

    I am the lone ranger here. This is a site belonging to ex-Muslims and I accepted the challenge to debate here. I am not expecting any support from the ex-Muslims here and I never did. I am not trying to unite FFI and CEM.  Cheesy

    I appreciate this space provided by CEM and I will write here freely as long as I am welcome here.

    You should be happy that indirectly, I am promoting Ali Sina's Faithfreedom International  (FFI) to the silent international readers, who can read and understand how misleading and irresponsible FFI is, how it distorts the truth and misinforms the international silent readers, who are taught to hate Islam and the Muslims. FFI's bigotry is being noted by many, not just a few.

    Just look at the number of views on the three topics!

    The silent international readers and some sensible CEM readers can see many of FFI Baghdad Bobs here broadcasting  statements, which even surpass those of the real Baghdad Bob. I forgot his name.  Cheesy

    Unfortunately, Ali Sina, a megalomaniac himself, with a serious personality disorder has made all of you megalomaniacs. I am not the biblical Jesus and I cannot cure everyone at FFI.

    Your friend is writing in the usual FFI style, which has no substance. The feedback and the tips he received from your lead writer have been of no use. He still has to continue with me. Let him reply and you keep a big pack of popcorns.

    When has FFI won any debate?

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #235 - April 07, 2009, 03:41 PM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 07, 2009, 03:12 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 07, 2009, 03:04 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on April 07, 2009, 12:36 PM
    I agree. Attempting to rely on willful blindness and an excess of smileys is not going to impress anyone.


    Depends upon your location on the fence. Smileys are very effective for response to posters, who exhibit oral diarrhoea.

    As for myself, I don't use low-class language commonly used by posters. For example, you will never see me writing a poster the way, my opponent wrote. Perhaps you did not read.

    Examples extracted:

    "More nonsense from this troll!!!" I have to use these words because its becoming disgusting  for me to tolerate his lies and dishonesty.

    I was forced to repeat the same things again and again and thats why I found it disgusting to show his stupidity

    SO anyone can see to what level of dishonesty this person can go to just to make his case.

    People use filthy language and I use smileys for a person, who provides Cop Out and ridiculous answers. I did indicate the use of smileys and emoticons earlier. May be you took no notice of that.

    Cheers
    BMZ


    Calling spade a spade is not abuse. Respect is something that needs to be earned. Unlike you I respect Ahmed Bahgat very much . I appreciate his honesty and I even apologized to him previously for using rough language against him for which he removed me from his life dismissal list .  I think it was worth apologizing since the guy really has some quality . The reason I am hostile towards you is because of your dishonesty and making fun of FFI. BEar in mind I havent forgotten whatever you did with khalil on FFI . Revenge is in my blood and I shall seek it.


    You can take your revenge FFI style. No problem. Have you answered my question?

    Khalil Fariel of FFI is a fraud. In fact, some Muslims and I exposed him. He misquotes, misreports, distorts and misinforms. In fact, he gave you wrong tips on Arsh. 

    By the way, you sound as if you are a member of BJP, India.  Cheesy

    Anyway, get back into the debate. Will take a look at your answer tomorrow.

    Cheers & Good Night

    BMZ

  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #236 - April 07, 2009, 03:51 PM
    Quote from: BMZ

    Charles,

    I am the lone ranger here. This is a site belonging to ex-Muslims and I accepted the challenge to debate here. I am not expecting any support from the ex-Muslims here and I never did. I am not trying to unite FFI and CEM.  Cheesy


    Cheesy Man, I love your sense of humor sometimes.



    Quote
    You should be happy that indirectly, I am promoting Ali Sina's Faithfreedom International  (FFI) to the silent international readers, who can read and understand how misleading and irresponsible FFI is, how it distorts the truth and misinforms the international silent readers, who are taught to hate Islam and the Muslims. FFI's bigotry is being noted by many, not just a few.


    I would be still happier if you created dozens of new sites to expose FFI, its bigotry, its irresponsibility and its misinformation. You would also be strengthening the faith of many Muslims in the process I think Cheesy

    Quote
    Unfortunately, Ali Sina, a megalomaniac himself, with a serious personality disorder has made all of you megalomaniacs. I am not the biblical Jesus and I cannot cure everyone at FFI.


    Thanks, but no thanks. We, at FFI, are happier without the "The Country of the Blind" type cure Islam and you wish to provide to us. Cheesy

    Quote
    Your friend is writing in the usual FFI style, which has no substance. The feedback and the tips he received from your lead writer have been of no use. He still has to continue with me. Let him reply and you keep a big pack of popcorns.

    When has FFI won any debate?


    The lack of substance is your opinion only, and it is quite understandable why you hold such an opinion. But, you my friend, have been seen to falter so many times during such a short debate that your words are losing whatever credibility they had to begin with. I wouldn't like to repeat myself here again, but I have certainly pointed out your frequent stumbling more than once.

    The animosity of Muslims towards FFI and its "lead-writer" is an ample testimony to its effectiveness. But let us not discuss FFI here.

    And please, get over your obsession with FFI Cheesy
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #237 - April 07, 2009, 04:03 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on April 07, 2009, 03:51 PM

    And please, get over your obsession with FFI Cheesy


    How can I forget the "love" shown by FFI to Muslims, Charles?  Cheesy

    Good Night
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #238 - April 07, 2009, 04:29 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 07, 2009, 04:03 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on April 07, 2009, 03:51 PM

    And please, get over your obsession with FFI Cheesy


    How can I forget the "love" shown by FFI to Muslims, Charles?  Cheesy

    Good Night
    BMZ


    That love is zilch compared to the love shown by Quran, Islam, Allah and Muhammad to non Muslims.

    Good Night.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #239 - April 07, 2009, 04:36 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on April 07, 2009, 04:29 PM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 07, 2009, 04:03 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on April 07, 2009, 03:51 PM

    And please, get over your obsession with FFI Cheesy


    How can I forget the "love" shown by FFI to Muslims, Charles?  Cheesy

    Good Night
    BMZ


    That love is zilch compared to the love shown by Quran, Islam, Allah and Muhammad to non Muslims.

    Good Night.


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