Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani

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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #60 - April 15, 2009, 10:44 PM

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Well, how about your prove that message of the Quran is corrupted?, if you can not then you must give it the benefit of the doubt, hahahaha

The Qur'an isn't from God. Its something Mohammed made up as he went along, its no more divine than the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - which also remains completely uncorrupted.

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on the other hand I can prove to you that the NT books are corrupted, as well I can prove to you that the hadith books are corruppted, SEE

That's okay, I already believe that the NT and hadeeth are dodgy. That doesn't mean the Qur'an is anything other than man made though.

Looks like you are a ocnfused ignorant

Mohammed did not know how to read or write, you fool

dismiss yourself

Ahmed, give it up on the gratuitous insults whenever somebody disagrees with you.
We've been over this before and we don't have infinite tolerance.

Smite 1 for you. Two left before you're off to Damnation. Have a nice day.

Mister confused and control freak

calling someone confused and ignroant is not an insult, this is how I see them as I see you too, you are damn confused and ignroant as well a control freak

dismiss your ignorant arse, you contriol freak

As you wish. That's number 2 for you. I'm easy, mate. It's no skin off my nose.

Cool, let's make it # 3

Fuk you

Ok. Have it your way.

You are indeed a piece of shit of an admin

you allow all the kafirs in here to call Muslims confused and deluded, and when I give it to them you cry like a girl

fuk you agin, freak

Dude, seriously, what the hell is your problem. Instead of calling people peices of shit and kafirs, why don't you debate and talk to them in a calm and MATURE matter. You mouth off like an immature teen, yet you are MIDDLE AGED. Grow up.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #61 - April 15, 2009, 11:11 PM

Christ on a crutch, in a chariot driven sidecar. I leave for a few hours and the nutjobs come out of the woodwork.

Os, you're getting slow...

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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #62 - April 17, 2009, 02:16 AM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on April 15, 2009, 10:44 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:26 PM
Quote from: osmanthus on April 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:20 PM
Quote from: osmanthus on April 15, 2009, 10:19 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:16 PM
Quote from: osmanthus on April 15, 2009, 10:14 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:05 PM
Quote from: Cheetah on April 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
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Well, how about your prove that message of the Quran is corrupted?, if you can not then you must give it the benefit of the doubt, hahahaha

The Qur'an isn't from God. Its something Mohammed made up as he went along, its no more divine than the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - which also remains completely uncorrupted.

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on the other hand I can prove to you that the NT books are corrupted, as well I can prove to you that the hadith books are corruppted, SEE

That's okay, I already believe that the NT and hadeeth are dodgy. That doesn't mean the Qur'an is anything other than man made though.

Looks like you are a ocnfused ignorant

Mohammed did not know how to read or write, you fool

dismiss yourself

Ahmed, give it up on the gratuitous insults whenever somebody disagrees with you.
We've been over this before and we don't have infinite tolerance.

Smite 1 for you. Two left before you're off to Damnation. Have a nice day.

Mister confused and control freak

calling someone confused and ignroant is not an insult, this is how I see them as I see you too, you are damn confused and ignroant as well a control freak

dismiss your ignorant arse, you contriol freak

As you wish. That's number 2 for you. I'm easy, mate. It's no skin off my nose.

Cool, let's make it # 3

Fuk you

Ok. Have it your way.

You are indeed a piece of shit of an admin

you allow all the kafirs in here to call Muslims confused and deluded, and when I give it to them you cry like a girl

fuk you agin, freak

Dude, seriously, what the hell is your problem. Instead of calling people peices of shit and kafirs, why don't you debate and talk to them in a calm and MATURE matter. You mouth off like an immature teen, yet you are MIDDLE AGED. Grow up.

I think he is emulating his prophet.
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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #63 - April 17, 2009, 02:23 AM

Quote from: SmartAssmodeus on April 17, 2009, 02:16 AM
Quote from: Cool Canadian on April 15, 2009, 10:44 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:26 PM
Quote from: osmanthus on April 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:20 PM
Quote from: osmanthus on April 15, 2009, 10:19 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:16 PM
Quote from: osmanthus on April 15, 2009, 10:14 PM
Quote from: AhmedBahgat on April 15, 2009, 10:05 PM
Quote from: Cheetah on April 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
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Well, how about your prove that message of the Quran is corrupted?, if you can not then you must give it the benefit of the doubt, hahahaha

The Qur'an isn't from God. Its something Mohammed made up as he went along, its no more divine than the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - which also remains completely uncorrupted.

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on the other hand I can prove to you that the NT books are corrupted, as well I can prove to you that the hadith books are corruppted, SEE

That's okay, I already believe that the NT and hadeeth are dodgy. That doesn't mean the Qur'an is anything other than man made though.

Looks like you are a ocnfused ignorant

Mohammed did not know how to read or write, you fool

dismiss yourself

Ahmed, give it up on the gratuitous insults whenever somebody disagrees with you.
We've been over this before and we don't have infinite tolerance.

Smite 1 for you. Two left before you're off to Damnation. Have a nice day.

Mister confused and control freak

calling someone confused and ignroant is not an insult, this is how I see them as I see you too, you are damn confused and ignroant as well a control freak

dismiss your ignorant arse, you contriol freak

As you wish. That's number 2 for you. I'm easy, mate. It's no skin off my nose.

Cool, let's make it # 3

Fuk you

Ok. Have it your way.

You are indeed a piece of shit of an admin

you allow all the kafirs in here to call Muslims confused and deluded, and when I give it to them you cry like a girl

fuk you agin, freak

Dude, seriously, what the hell is your problem. Instead of calling people peices of shit and kafirs, why don't you debate and talk to them in a calm and MATURE matter. You mouth off like an immature teen, yet you are MIDDLE AGED. Grow up.

I think he is emulating his prophet.

ahhh but the thing is, how can he emulate his "prophet" if he denies the sunnah? Besides, Muhammad said that whoever denies the sunnah is a disbeliever, so technically AhmedBaghat is a disbeliever, like the rest of us!

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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #64 - April 17, 2009, 05:30 PM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on April 17, 2009, 02:23 AM

ahhh but the thing is, how can he emulate his "prophet" if he denies the sunnah? Besides, Muhammad said that whoever denies the sunnah is a disbeliever, so technically AhmedBaghat is a disbeliever, like the rest of us!

But did he say that in the Qu'ran? If not, you are relying upon the Sunnah to justify your criticism, when the object of your criticism does not believe in the Sunnah.

If Mohammed did say this in the Qu'ran, is it perhaps possible for you to cite the particular ayaat where it comes from?
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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #65 - April 17, 2009, 05:37 PM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on April 15, 2009, 06:05 AM
I was checking out some persian prophet who is very similar to Muhammad. He claimed to be the paraclete AND the SEAL OF THE PROPHETS. Hmmm. check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_(prophet)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism

Discuss!

Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo and author of "City of God" and "Confessions" used to be a follower of Mani. Manichaean dualism has been seen as a heresy throughout the history of the Roman Church. The Albigensians and other Gnostics believed that the physical earth was the realm of Satan, and only pure spiritual light was worth seeking. I remember a sermon about Manichaean beliefs where someone said that Mani used to drug people into believing his talk of heavenly Paradise. From what I understand of Manichaeism, it has little similarities with Islam, as Prophet Mohammed was an "earthy" human being, with a romantic life and a warrior's life, not a peddler of false dreams like Mani.
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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #66 - April 17, 2009, 05:40 PM

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Prophet Mohammed was an "earthy" human being, with a romantic life

What do you mean by this?

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Re: Prophet Muhammad vs Prophet Mani
Reply #67 - April 17, 2009, 05:45 PM

Quote from: IsLame on April 17, 2009, 05:40 PM
Quote from: Janet N on April 17, 2009, 05:37 PM
Prophet Mohammed was an "earthy" human being, with a romantic life

What do you mean by this?

Manichaeans rejected all that was earthly. The Prophet Mohammed enjoyed what there was of this earth - his wives, food, and even warfare (when justifiable). That is the opposite of Manichaean principles, as I have been led to believe them from Augustine's writings.
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