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  • Hi There.
     OP - April 24, 2009, 04:56 PM

    Hi all,

    This looks like a cool forum, so I thought I'd join. Here are a few quick facts about me:

    I'm 28. Took shahada at 18 after taking a class on Islam with Ira Zepp (you can google him - very nice man!) and became very religious around 20 or so. I considered myself Sunni with a Sufi undertone. I married a mureed of Nuh Ha Mim Keller at 25, but asked for a divorce just a few months later for various reasons, but the biggest two were that he was impotent and that he was a huge hypocrite (love anal porn flicks and chatting with girls on dating sites).  whistling2

    I have to disclose that I don't hate Islam - I just think it's not for me. I felt like I was living in the past...even more so whilst I was married. I don't feel that my predecessors fought and died for me to be treated like a child or an inferior. I don't have any logical reasons for leaving Islam (dislike of Muhammad, shariah, etc.). I just don't believe the faith is any more special than the others out there - so why give it all my attention?

    Anyway, see you around.
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #1 - April 24, 2009, 04:59 PM

    That sounds a pretty logical reason to me yes Welcome to the forum, hope you enjoy your stay Smiley
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #2 - April 24, 2009, 05:01 PM

    Sounds perfectly logical to me too.  Welcome.   Smiley

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #3 - April 24, 2009, 06:01 PM

    Welcome - glad to see you are on the same page as most of us.  So what made you turn to Islam in the first place/

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  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #4 - April 24, 2009, 06:17 PM

    Welcome - glad to see you are on the same page as most of us.  So what made you turn to Islam in the first place/


    It provided the structure and sense of purpose I needed at the time, and I always believed in one God even though I was raised to be a Christian. I actually still kind of miss it (the sense of purpose and structure, not the religion itself). I'm just kind of free-wheeling through life at the moment in a way that isn't so fun, but I'm muddling through as best I can.
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #5 - April 24, 2009, 08:14 PM

    Sounds like you're perfectly normal then. Welcome to the forum. We could do with some normal after the last lot. Grin

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  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #6 - April 24, 2009, 09:10 PM

    Hi all,
    I have to disclose that I don't hate Islam - I just think it's not for me. I felt like I was living in the past...even more so whilst I was married. I don't feel that my predecessors fought and died for me to be treated like a child or an inferior. I don't have any logical reasons for leaving Islam (dislike of Muhammad, shariah, etc.). I just don't believe the faith is any more special than the others out there - so why give it all my attention?


    Thanks for sharing, you give me hope  Smiley


    It provided the structure and sense of purpose I needed at the time, and I always believed in one God even though I was raised to be a Christian. I actually still kind of miss it (the sense of purpose and structure, not the religion itself). I'm just kind of free-wheeling through life at the moment in a way that isn't so fun, but I'm muddling through as best I can.


    I know exactly what you mean. Welcome hugs

    "when you've got thousands of hadith/sunnah and a book like the Qur'an where abrogation is propagated by some; anyone with a grudge and some time on their hands can find something to confirm what ever they wish"- Kaiwai
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #7 - April 25, 2009, 12:48 AM

    Hi all,
    I have to disclose that I don't hate Islam - I just think it's not for me. I felt like I was living in the past...even more so whilst I was married. I don't feel that my predecessors fought and died for me to be treated like a child or an inferior. I don't have any logical reasons for leaving Islam (dislike of Muhammad, shariah, etc.). I just don't believe the faith is any more special than the others out there - so why give it all my attention?


    Thanks for sharing, you give me hope  Smiley


    Hope for what?  Smiley

    And thanks for your welcome.
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #8 - April 25, 2009, 12:54 AM

    Hope for what?  Smiley

    Hope that more people have common sense, I'm guessing. ;-)
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #9 - April 25, 2009, 03:14 AM

     signwelcome crueljewel!  Smiley

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #10 - April 25, 2009, 03:45 AM

    I considered myself Sunni with a Sufi undertone. I married a mureed of Nuh Ha Mim Keller at 25, but asked for a divorce just a few months later for various reasons, but the biggest two were that he was impotent and that he was a huge hypocrite (love anal porn flicks and chatting with girls on dating sites).  whistling2


    Just based on my own experiences, this is very common or common enough.  A lot of people are doing a lot of shit behind closed doors that they condemn in public.  I have witnessed so much abuse & hypocrisy, most of it sexual in nature.  The thing is, I don't think there is anything really inherently wrong with a lot of these things per se, but it's that Islam is so against it that it encourages secrecy and hiding things. Which is fine until you start running your  mouth off in public about the thing that you love in private. Like Ted Haggard.  We have a lot of Ted Haggards... a lot of gay men and women, a lot of people into porn and other sexual stuff, a lot of people who are into a lot of 'haraam' things that even something normal becomes a 'thing'.  Like this big Salafee dayee from back in the day who would rant and rail about unrelated women and free mixing and dogs and all that and he kept three dogs in his house and had unrelated women up at the house with him and his wife all the time. 

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    I have to disclose that I don't hate Islam - I just think it's not for me. I felt like I was living in the past...even more so whilst I was married. I don't feel that my predecessors fought and died for me to be treated like a child or an inferior. I don't have any logical reasons for leaving Islam (dislike of Muhammad, shariah, etc.). I just don't believe the faith is any more special than the others out there - so why give it all my attention?


    I don't hate Islam per se - such as the five pillars or the six articles, but I hate the Shariah and I hate the effect Islam has on people and society.  However, this is not why I quit the deen. I quit because I simply did not believe in Big Al and his friend Mo anymore.  It was after I stopped drinking the magic potion that I began to see how detestable and backwards a lot of things I'd been taught and lived were. 

    I don't believe Islam or any other religion is deserving of respect or reverence just because someone calls it a spiritual belief. Bring on the cartoons and the jokes is what I say.  I mean, some of the beliefs are really ridiculous and worthy of laughter - like the giant celestial mountain goats (hey, it's a hadith!).  Because Islam and Muslims have been so forceful and adamant about silencing not only mockery but questioning, dissent, disagreement and criticism of Islam, I think it does deserve some special treatment.  However, I think people are deserving of some basic respect, and then earn or lose it with their behaviour.  I have Muslim family & friends that I care about. 

    Anyway, welcome.  This is a  nice place for ex Muslims to talk.

    [this space for rent]
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #11 - April 25, 2009, 06:44 AM

    Hello Jewel,

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #12 - April 25, 2009, 07:03 AM

    Welcome welcome.

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #13 - April 25, 2009, 11:19 AM

    Hi all,

    This looks like a cool forum, so I thought I'd join. Here are a few quick facts about me:

    I'm 28. Took shahada at 18 after taking a class on Islam with Ira Zepp (you can google him - very nice man!) and became very religious around 20 or so. I considered myself Sunni with a Sufi undertone. I married a mureed of Nuh Ha Mim Keller at 25, but asked for a divorce just a few months later for various reasons, but the biggest two were that he was impotent and that he was a huge hypocrite (love anal porn flicks and chatting with girls on dating sites).  whistling2

    I have to disclose that I don't hate Islam - I just think it's not for me. I felt like I was living in the past...even more so whilst I was married. I don't feel that my predecessors fought and died for me to be treated like a child or an inferior. I don't have any logical reasons for leaving Islam (dislike of Muhammad, shariah, etc.). I just don't believe the faith is any more special than the others out there - so why give it all my attention?

    Anyway, see you around.



    Welcome Crueljewel Smiley
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #14 - April 25, 2009, 11:20 AM

    Welcome - glad to see you are on the same page as most of us.  So what made you turn to Islam in the first place/


    It provided the structure and sense of purpose I needed at the time, and I always believed in one God even though I was raised to be a Christian. I actually still kind of miss it (the sense of purpose and structure, not the religion itself). I'm just kind of free-wheeling through life at the moment in a way that isn't so fun, but I'm muddling through as best I can.


    I can totally relate to both why you got into it and how you feel you are freewheeling along at the moment.
  • Re: Hi There.
     Reply #15 - April 30, 2009, 03:52 AM

    Thank you, all for your warm welcomes. I certainly need a place to detox and rehab. It's quite lonely for me at the moment.
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