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  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #30 - May 06, 2009, 06:11 PM



    I don't know next time I will take a picture of it, raw bacon trust me you'll never want to eat it after what I do.


    I eat sheeps brains as a delicacy, I doubt you could put me off a food I love.  Wink


    you're disgusting
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #31 - May 06, 2009, 06:13 PM



    I don't know next time I will take a picture of it, raw bacon trust me you'll never want to eat it after what I do.


    I eat sheeps brains as a delicacy, I doubt you could put me off a food I love.  Wink


    you're disgusting


    They are actually quite nice! Go to your local Halal shop and you will be able to get them, you can get chicken brains as well.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #32 - May 06, 2009, 06:13 PM


    you're disgusting



    Thanks.  bunny

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #33 - May 06, 2009, 06:14 PM

    you can get chicken brains as well.


    Chickens have brains?  Cheesy   Tongue

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #34 - May 06, 2009, 06:15 PM



    I don't know next time I will take a picture of it, raw bacon trust me you'll never want to eat it after what I do.


    I eat sheeps brains as a delicacy, I doubt you could put me off a food I love.  Wink


    you're disgusting


    They are actually quite nice! Go to your local Halal shop and you will be able to get them, you can get chicken brains as well.


    I know what, but I just don't think its ethical to be proud of eating them, those are animals. Imagine an alien race wanting to eat our brains, when they see how we treat animals.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #35 - May 06, 2009, 06:15 PM

    you can get chicken brains as well.


    Chickens have brains?  Cheesy   Tongue


    Seriously, go and try them. I was very pleasantly surprised when I tried them.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #36 - May 06, 2009, 06:16 PM


    I know what, but I just don't think its ethical to be proud of eating them, those are animals. Imagine an alien race wanting to eat our brains, when they see how we treat animals.


    So you're a vegetarian now?

    I hate those vegetable murdering bastards, don't they know how the poor potatoe suffers?  finmad


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #37 - May 06, 2009, 06:18 PM


    I know what, but I just don't think its ethical to be proud of eating them, those are animals. Imagine an alien race wanting to eat our brains, when they see how we treat animals.


    So you're a vegetarian now?

    I hate those vegetable murdering bastards, don't they know how the poor potatoe suffers?  finmad




    I used  to be a veggie, but even though I eat meat (mainly chick) i still think of it as unethical I just don't think it can be justified to eat animals for pleasure, did you know animals can imagine? 
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #38 - May 06, 2009, 06:20 PM



    I used  to be a veggie, but even though I eat meat (mainly chick) i still think of it as unethical I just don't think it can be justified to eat animals for pleasure, did you know animals can imagine? 


    Yes I did, isn't there some evidence that points to our evolution getting a kick start mentally when we began to eat meat?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #39 - May 06, 2009, 06:20 PM

    I used  to be a veggie, but even though I eat meat (mainly chick) i still think of it as unethical I just don't think it can be justified to eat animals for pleasure, did you know animals can imagine? 


    Of course they can. Animals also have personalities, feelings and morals. Humans are not separate from animals but are part of the animal kingdom. And parts of the animal kingdom have to eat other parts of the animal kingdom to survive.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #40 - May 06, 2009, 06:22 PM

    I wanna know just one thing.

    I hope someone here can give a satisfactory answer:

    Why do women in the west convert to Islam?

    I mean, if we look at our newspapers and television,
    we see them constantly blast Islam as anti-women,
    and yet the European and American ladies are accepting Islam !!

    Why !!!

    Should girls not reject Islam? Women should be the last people on Earth that convert to Islam.

    So, why is this happening?






    first thing we dont have honest and unbiased statistics about how many women convert to islam and how many leave islam.also coming to islam means you are wellcomed by 1/5 population of the world and on the other hand leaving islam will mean you are cursed by 99% population of the world(so its not advertised )the point is that you can not make a fair comparison.
    but even if still you say that women are coming to islam in my experience there are two type of women who convert
    firstly the women who convert to settle down or get married with a muslim man.mainly westrn women dont give shit about religion so conversion is just ceremonial.(when was the last time  anyone saw jamaima khan praying or wearing hajab)
    and secondly the women who make honest and intentional decision to convert to islam(although i personaly think this type is a small fraction).and thats because people have tendency to believe in absurdity (probably same number of women are converting to scientology stuff).and lets admit that islam being a latest religion(more modified)is best of all of ibrahamic bullshits.

    ?Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.?

     Steven Weinberg quotes
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #41 - May 06, 2009, 06:23 PM



    I used  to be a veggie, but even though I eat meat (mainly chick) i still think of it as unethical I just don't think it can be justified to eat animals for pleasure, did you know animals can imagine? 


    Yes I did, isn't there some evidence that points to our evolution getting a kick start mentally when we began to eat meat?


    Not really, there was a mutation, in which our jaw became weaker the jaw muscle became weaker, and that allowed the skull to expand, the then also our brain expanded. Then we were smart enough to hunt animals and make tools. Our evolution to (humans) was out of a mutation.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #42 - May 06, 2009, 06:33 PM

    Islam is the current 'religious fad' for the West. Back in the hippie years of the 60s and 70s, conversions to Hinduism or Sufism or Buddhism wasnt uncommon either.

    But Hassan summed it up perfectly

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #43 - May 06, 2009, 06:34 PM

    According to muslim sources, about 75% of converts leave Islam within a few years, which definitely supports the theory that people, both men and women, are converting because they have been shown a sugar coated version of Islam.


    What is interesting is that this is happening at a time when the most extremist interpretations of Islam are at their most prominent and starkly visible on most information mediums; yet...

    The sugar-coated Islam argument IMO no longer makes much sense (although it would have before september 11), especially given the current concerted effort by the anti-Islam movement and their apostate allies to convince the public that Islam is bad.

    Everyone by now has seen the Burkas in Afghanistan, heard about honor killings, etc.. at the very least, this would stop most women from taking the first step towards the religion.


    Actually AW, I think al great deal of the anti-Islam rhetoric is counter productive (to their own aims) as much of it is extreme, exaggerated and unbalanced (i.e. FFI). When ppl are fed this and know nothing about Islam except the exaggerated and unbalanced claims then they will lose faith in the anti-Islam rehetoric completely when they discover that a great deal of it is way over the top and distorted (and has racist agendas).

    They will then be more likely to fall for the sugar coated versions and sympathise with the hard-done by underdog.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #44 - May 06, 2009, 06:41 PM



    I don't know next time I will take a picture of it, raw bacon trust me you'll never want to eat it after what I do.


    I eat sheeps brains as a delicacy, I doubt you could put me off a food I love.  Wink


    you're disgusting


    They're delicious!

    What makes eating some parts of an animal more or less disgusting than another, KT?
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #45 - May 06, 2009, 06:50 PM



    I don't know next time I will take a picture of it, raw bacon trust me you'll never want to eat it after what I do.


    I eat sheeps brains as a delicacy, I doubt you could put me off a food I love.  Wink


    you're disgusting


    They're delicious!

    What makes eating some parts of an animal more or less disgusting than another, KT?


    Its wrong in all senses, eating an animal is just wrong. Even for necessity you did have to eat there is no need to talk about how enjoyable it is, I am a Hipster scene boy. etc.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #46 - May 06, 2009, 07:00 PM

    Haha so says the guy who does nothing but boast and boast and boast and boast.  It's ok if you are doing it though right?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #47 - May 06, 2009, 07:06 PM

    Haha so says the guy who does nothing but boast and boast and boast and boast.  It's ok if you are doing it though right?


    Doing what? I always said it was wrong to eat animals.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #48 - May 06, 2009, 07:12 PM


    Doing what?


    Taking pride and boasting about something you like.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #49 - May 06, 2009, 08:32 PM

    Actually AW, I think al great deal of the anti-Islam rhetoric is counter productive (to their own aims) as much of it is extreme, exaggerated and unbalanced (i.e. FFI). When ppl are fed this and know nothing about Islam except the exaggerated and unbalanced claims then they will lose faith in the anti-Islam rehetoric completely when they discover that a great deal of it is way over the top and distorted (and has racist agendas).

    They will then be more likely to fall for the sugar coated versions and sympathise with the hard-done by underdog.

    I think there's a lot of truth in this. The hardline "anti-jihadi jihadis", as I like to call them, are so obsessed with proving that Islam and all Muslims are nothing but pure evil that they fail to see that most average people will regard them as raving lunatics and quite unbalanced. Of course this helps to discredit their opinions, and by extension it helps to dilute any criticism of Islam in the wider world.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #50 - May 06, 2009, 09:27 PM

    According to muslim sources, about 75% of converts leave Islam within a few years, which definitely supports the theory that people, both men and women, are converting because they have been shown a sugar coated version of Islam.


    On that video, they mention that ex-wives of Muslim husbands are the second biggest group of that 75%, and their kids are the third largest group.  (the biggest was ex-convincts)

    So the number of women who come to Islam due to marriage is pretty substantial.  I know a few though who converted first, and then got married (or who aren't married yet)
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #51 - May 07, 2009, 05:22 AM

    According to muslim sources, about 75% of converts leave Islam within a few years, which definitely supports the theory that people, both men and women, are converting because they have been shown a sugar coated version of Islam.


    What is interesting is that this is happening at a time when the most extremist interpretations of Islam are at their most prominent and starkly visible on most information mediums; yet...

    The sugar-coated Islam argument IMO no longer makes much sense (although it would have before september 11), especially given the current concerted effort by the anti-Islam movement and their apostate allies to convince the public that Islam is bad.

    Everyone by now has seen the Burkas in Afghanistan, heard about honor killings, etc.. at the very least, this would stop most women from taking the first step towards the religion.


    Yeah that would mean something if there were still a steady stream of people converting to Islam like there were ten years ago.  However, as someone pointed out, one Muslim sociologist estimates that 75% of converts leave within three years and the Islamic propaganda organisations tell us that most converts are women (which I don't know if that is believable anyway).  It is all anecdotal of course since Islam conveniently has no formal membership rolls and things like that, so who knows who converted and who didn't.  In my last five years as a Muslim, I noticed a big shift in focus away from dawah and getting people to convert, and towards retaining 'the youth' who were born to Muslim parents.  Most of the converts that we saw in our masjids where we lived, very few of them remained in the jamaat for any length of time, by which I mean more than a year.  However, most of my friends, many of whom were converts, didn't go to the jamaat at all, which is why those Muslim organisations and mosques aren't very reliable in some cases, as far as who is Muslim and how many  Muslims live in an area.

    Also the sugar coating still applies, because when people see the Taliban and they say 'What is this Islam?' then they get the same old tired pamphlets and books that they were handing out to Muslimahs at the masjid 15 years ago about how Islam is the 'shelter of peace for women' and all that.

    [this space for rent]
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #52 - May 07, 2009, 05:27 AM

    According to muslim sources, about 75% of converts leave Islam within a few years, which definitely supports the theory that people, both men and women, are converting because they have been shown a sugar coated version of Islam.


    On that video, they mention that ex-wives of Muslim husbands are the second biggest group of that 75%, and their kids are the third largest group.  (the biggest was ex-convincts)

    So the number of women who come to Islam due to marriage is pretty substantial.  I know a few though who converted first, and then got married (or who aren't married yet)


    You can convert to Islam, marry and then still be the ex-wife of a Muslim husband.  I know that this is the common image of convert women, but I'm thinking about the women I knew, and only two of them converted after marriage to a Muslim guy. Out of many, many convert women I knew over the years.  However, the pressure on convert women to get married right away is so extreme, and a lot of them did get married right away, the ones who converted in the 80s and 90s, so I can see that people would think that their conversion was because of the husband.


    [this space for rent]
  • Re: Western Ladies
     Reply #53 - May 07, 2009, 06:20 AM


    Actually AW, I think al great deal of the anti-Islam rhetoric is counter productive (to their own aims) as much of it is extreme, exaggerated and unbalanced (i.e. FFI). When ppl are fed this and know nothing about Islam except the exaggerated and unbalanced claims then they will lose faith in the anti-Islam rehetoric completely when they discover that a great deal of it is way over the top and distorted (and has racist agendas).

    They will then be more likely to fall for the sugar coated versions and sympathise with the hard-done by underdog.


    Truest words on this thread, imho.

    "when you've got thousands of hadith/sunnah and a book like the Qur'an where abrogation is propagated by some; anyone with a grudge and some time on their hands can find something to confirm what ever they wish"- Kaiwai
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