I also do not accept predestination. But you have to ask is that what is being presented in the verses?
Do you believe that Allah is all-knowing and the creator of all? Simple yes or no.
If Allah is all-knowing, then he knows the exact narrative of each of his creations, even before he has created them. Within Islamic scholarship, it is described how Allah recorded everything that will happen on Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuud. If Allah is the creator of all, then everything he creates is according to what he already knows they will do throughout their life. This is the philosophical framework of destiny (or 'qadr'). Just think, Allah created you in the knowledge of your entire life narrative. He therefore created this narrative. He destined you to do exactly what you are doing in this life. If it is already known and decided what you are going to do in your life before you are created, where exactly is the free will?
So why do you not accept predestination? Do you not believe that Allah is all-knowing and the creator of all? If you don't, then our work is done, because you are therefore not a Muslim because you deny the existence of Allah.
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This is a big issue and requires another a topic on its own.
However, to give you a simple reply, knowing does not mean determining. These are two different things, if you can see that.[/quote]
I agree totally with your statement. The issue is that Allah is all knowing
and the creator of all. This
in combination means that Allah determines the narrative of his creations.
You made a lot of unnecessary conclusions. You were incapable of, or, unwilling to see other possiblities.
These are not "unnecessary conclusions". If you belive that Allah is all-knowing and the creator of it, it is the logical conclusion, and since the all-knowing and all-creating nature of Allah are absolute, then it is an absolute conclusion.
Tell enlighten me as to what the "other possibilites" are. I'd be thrilled to hear your "absurd doubts" on this matter
I think our member coolred38 has spotted the fallacy of your objection.
He pointed out the 'ifs'. These ifs are assumptions as to whether Allah is all knowing and the creator of everything, which is standard Islamic doctrine. But we can't assume that Muslims believe standard Islamic doctrine, so we need to prefix statements with 'if'.
If you don't believe that Allah is all-knowing and the creator of everything, then you are not Muslim.
If you do believe, then you must therefore believe in predestination.
Topic: Absurd Doubts