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 Topic: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post

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  • BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     OP - May 12, 2009, 03:20 AM

    BBC has appointed a Muslim- Aaqil Ahmed, to the position of head of religious programming.

    Quote from: Daily Mail
    The BBC yesterday appointed a Muslim as its head of religious programming in a radical departure from broadcasting tradition.
    The post - considered one of the most influential religious roles in the country - has gone to Aaqil Ahmed, who has been working as an executive at Channel 4.
    The appointment will cause dismay among the Christian churches.
    Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams raised concerns over the prospect of a Muslim head of religious broadcasting during a meeting with the corporation's director general Mark Thompson in March.
    It comes at a time of deepening worries among Christian leaders that their faith is being sidelined and downgraded by authorities.
    Both Dr Williams and Archbishop of York Dr John Sentamu have made repeated public complaints over the indifference and occasional hostility to Christianity shown in Whitehall and from other authorities.
    Last year the BBC gave the job of producing its most popular and longrunning religious programme, Songs of Praise, to a Sikh, Tommy Nagra.
    The Church of England points out that 70 per cent of the population of Britain professes to be Christian, but only 3 per cent are Muslims.
    An official spokesman for the CofE said: 'We will judge the new man by his output rather than his label.'
    Christina Rees, a member of the Church's 'Cabinet', the Archbishops' Council, said: 'Aaqil Ahmed is a respected professional who has an established record of producing programmes on religion and ethics.
    'It is important that the Christian faith continues to receive coverage that accurately reflects its significance in the lives of most people who live in Britain, the overwhelming majority of whom regard themselves as Christian.'
     
    A BBC spokesman declined to say whether Mr Thompson - a practising Roman Catholic - was consulted on the appointment.
    But one corporation insider suggested the BBC would have been in breach of employment law if it had failed to give the job to Mr Ahmed.
    He was the best-qualified for the post, they said, and a decision to turn him down would have amounted to discrimination.
    Mr Ahmed is currently Channel 4's senior executive for religious programmes. He has commissioned series on the history of Christianity and the Koran.
    His critics accuse him of dumbing down religion, for example in one programme by presenting an assessment of the state of Christianity by Cherie Blair.
    Mr Ahmed is a trustee of the Runnymede Trust, a body that has championed the ideology of multiculturalism.
    He has also taken part in campaigns for a greater Muslim presence in the media.
    In the past the post of head of religion at the BBC has been considered a job for a senior and respected cleric or lay churchgoer.
    The Church of England's place as the established Church has usually been influential in the choice of postholders.
    There were deep reservations among church leaders eight years ago when for the first time the corporation appointed an atheist to the role.
    Mr Ahmed's appointment follows a re- organisation of the BBC religious broadcasting department and his title will be Head of Religion and Ethics and Commissioning Editor for Religion TV.
    The former head of religious programmes, Methodist preacher Michael Wakelin, failed to land the new post.
    Church leaders have become increasing disillusioned with the BBC in recent years. There have been a number of complaints that the corporation has shifted religious broadcasting out of prime time and cut down on the amount of time it gets.
    The BBC's TV religious programming is much reduced from the days when there were only terrestrial channels, which were required to set aside an hour on Sunday evening as a 'God Slot'.
    The remaining religious flagship is Songs of Praise, which has been running since 1961 and which can still command audiences of four million. Last Sunday it ran at close to peak time, at 5.55pm.
    Otherwise the only Sunday TV religious programme is The Big Question, broadcast at 10am and intended to represent different faiths and beliefs.
    Last Sunday, BBC2, BBC3 and BBC4 offered no religious programmes. BBC3, however, did broadcast Kirsten's Topless Ambition, about a TV presenter considering going topless for a photo shoot, and two episodes of Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps.
    The BBC has recently announced a six-part documentary on the history of Christianity, to be presented by the highly-respected historian Diarmaid McCulloch.
    The BBC has made a second senior religious appointment, making Christine Morgan, a longstanding producer who has been responsible for Radio 4's Thought for the Day, Head of Religion Radio.

     

    I don't know which Muslim country would be sooo tolerant & patient as non Muslims seem to be globally about Muslims(& in the rare case they are intolerant, as when Russia beheaded two Muslim migrant workers, that is blown out all all proportion as baaad non Muslims attacking innocent, ordinary Muslims, while every Muslim attack is fancifully excused as Muslims sloowwly turning away from violence! Tongue)

    The media does have the power to shape thoughts, & while Europe for decades has amply owned up to their past mistakes, most Muslims haven't, there is little acknowledgement of the many pogroms in Muslim lands against even Jews, for instance, forget against idolators & Zoroastrians.

    The Crusades are presented as some sort of unprovoked attacks & incursions by Christians into Muslim lands, without mentioning that it was a belated response to millennia of Muslim aggression. After the birth of Islam, in a small, obscure part of Arabia, in the 7th century, wave after wave of Muslim armies crashed into Christian and Jewish lands, conquered them, usurped them, colonized them, bled them & the crusades were a late reaction to this violent expansion out of desert  backwaters.

    This one sided portrayal will further increase.

    Further, since the West has amply & fully apologised for the Holocaust, more attempts will be made to make them feel guilty of their past sins, & scurrilous attempts would be made to compare the Muslim issue to the Jewish one, without mentioning the repeated successful & attempted terrorist attacks by Muslims, planning 9\11 from Germany, Brit Muslims joining Al Queda & so on.

    Of course, since no acknowledgement or apologies for the Armenian(& many other) genocides have been forthcoming from Muslims, they need not feel any shame for non existing past atrocities!  Roll Eyes

    Besides, Britain is also home to substantial Hindu & Sikh minorities, whose histories at Muslim hands might again be unfairly treated, while the media indulges in more anti Semitism over the plight of Hamas, who have refused to accept the loss of a tiny piece of colonial land, & taught their children & grandchildren to hate Jews' guts at stealing land from Allah's pet folks, rather than move on & build better futures!

    Of course, all this might not happen, but history teaches caution.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #1 - May 12, 2009, 07:19 AM

    I doubt it will make the slightest difference to the BBC's religious programming.  This man was responsible for a documentary about the Qur'an which offended muslims, and a series about Christianity which was quite flattering, apart from one episode about anti-Semitism.  If anything, he seems more likely to examine Islam with the kid gloves off than a non-muslim would be.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #2 - May 12, 2009, 07:32 AM

    Some Muslim bloke got a job at the Beeb =/= this is the end of the world as we know it.

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #3 - May 12, 2009, 07:39 AM

    Quite.  The Daily Mail are good at getting their knickers in a twist about nothing.

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #4 - May 12, 2009, 07:46 AM

    Rashna's knickers seem quite tangled up as well.

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #5 - May 12, 2009, 07:53 AM

    She's probly unaware of how inaccurate the Daily Mail's reporting can be.  This man has been an executive at Channel 4 all these years, he didn't do anything to stop the broadcast of Undercover Mosque and similar documentaries.  There's no reason to jump to the worst conclusions about him - the Mail just see a muslim name and conjure up an image of Bin Laden.   Roll Eyes

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #6 - May 12, 2009, 07:56 AM

    Here's some absurdity:

    Quote

    Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams raised concerns over the prospect of a Muslim head of religious broadcasting during a meeting with the corporation's director general Mark Thompson in March.



    So the man who believes that Shariah law is inevitable (and supports it) in a Christian country gets pissed off when they appoint a Muslim to this silly position?

    Rowan Williams has had one too many visions from God, he seems to have lost the plot!
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #7 - May 12, 2009, 08:07 AM

    She's probly unaware of how inaccurate the Daily Mail's reporting can be.  This man has been an executive at Channel 4 all these years, he didn't do anything to stop the broadcast of Undercover Mosque and similar documentaries.

    Ah yes, but that was just a sneaky form of taqiyya.  Terror couch

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #8 - May 12, 2009, 01:14 PM

    Allright, I over reacted majorly! yes

    But what with http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=3517.0 one can over react sometimes, especially someone like me!  Wink

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #9 - May 12, 2009, 01:17 PM

    Well generally Christians are used to taking shit, and just don't give a shit anymore. Whereas muslims should be treated with kids gloves because a few crazies just don't play that shit. Common sense really.

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #10 - May 12, 2009, 05:54 PM

    Quote from: awais
    Common sense really.

    Isn't it more like... cowardice?

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #11 - May 12, 2009, 10:21 PM

    Well generally Christians are used to taking shit, and just don't give a shit anymore. Whereas muslims should be treated with kids gloves because a few crazies just don't play that shit. Common sense really.

    Wrong. 100% wrong. They should be given the finger mercilessly. Take the piss out of them if they try any stunts. Arrest anyone who breaks the law and put them in court. They should be subject to exactly the same standards as anyone else.

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #12 - May 12, 2009, 10:46 PM

    This man has been an executive at Channel 4 all these years, he didn't do anything to stop the broadcast of Undercover Mosque and similar documentaries.

    hm, I hope he's a closet apostate...  cool2

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #13 - May 12, 2009, 11:15 PM

    Rashna, your bordering (to put it nicely) very closely to racism - try & be objective.  Who care's if a Muslim or devil worshipper gets a job at the BBC, fine criticize the religion, but dont take it as far as to assume every Muslim is a Mo wannabe.

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #14 - May 13, 2009, 03:37 AM

    Rashna, your bordering (to put it nicely) very closely to racism - try & be objective.  Who care's if a Muslim or devil worshipper gets a job at the BBC, fine criticize the religion, but dont take it as far as to assume every Muslim is a Mo wannabe.


    I know that & I've already apologised. Smiley I can't be accused of racism, since Islam isn't a race, I might be accused of Islamophobia.

    I do overreactat times, that was a major over reaction!

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #15 - May 13, 2009, 06:52 AM

    Rashna, your bordering (to put it nicely) very closely to racism - try & be objective.  Who care's if a Muslim or devil worshipper gets a job at the BBC, fine criticize the religion, but dont take it as far as to assume every Muslim is a Mo wannabe.

    I know that & I've already apologised. Smiley I can't be accused of racism, since Islam isn't a race, I might be accused of Islamophobia.

    I do overreact at times, that was a major over reaction!

    Well you're unlikely to be racist about it as you're probably much the same race as the guy who got the job. However the "Islam is not a race" ploy is often used by people who are racist and has become a bit of a cliche as a result, even though strictly speaking it is true.

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  • Re: BBC Appoints Muslim Aaqil Ahmad to Top Religious Post
     Reply #16 - May 13, 2009, 07:13 AM

    Well you're unlikely to be racist about it as you're probably much the same race as the guy who got the job. However the "Islam is not a race" ploy is often used by people who are racist and has become a bit of a cliche as a result, even though strictly speaking it is true.


    It is true, I could be called Islamophobic in this particular instance, but loads of people from the West, which fears local converts who have at times attempted terrorist attacks, to the easternmost periphery of Islam, south east Asia-Thailand, Philippines, Bali, Singapore etc, also hold such views, with some reason-even when they truly belong to the same race, so there's little opportunity to label all those racist.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
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