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  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     OP - May 27, 2009, 02:03 PM

    I know Islam retains a belief in jinns, but there's a fatwa in moderate, modern Islamonline where the questioner asks whether its permissible for humans & jinns to intermarry, & the scholar answers in the negative along with several hadiths & surahs to support his fatwa!  idiot2

    Quote from: Islamonline
    Name of Questioner   Nancy   - Egypt
       Title   May a Human Marry a Jinni?
       Question   Can a man marry a jinni female?
       Date   30/Mar/2004
       Name of Counsellor   A Group of Islamic Researchers

       Topic   Marriage, Jinn & Magic
       
     
    Answer   
     

    In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

    All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

    Dear questioner, thank you very much for having confidence in us, and we hope our efforts, which are purely for Allah's Sake, meet your expectations.

    The question of whether a human may marry a jinni is a controversial one. There is no evidence from the Shari`ah that can be said to be authentic in that regard.

    The majority of jurists are of the opinion that such a marriage is not lawful, but some jurists consider it to be lawful. The first opinion is the more correct to follow.

    Allah Almighty says: "And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect" (Ar-Rum: 21)

    He Almighty also says: ''O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you" (An-Nisaa': 1).

    In these verses, mate and mates refer to spouses from the same kind, i.e., humankind.

    Besides, there would be no offspring if a human and a jinni were to marry each other.

    According to Mughni Al-Muhtaj by Al-Khateeb Asherbini, a Shafi`e scholar, there are two kinds of prohibitions to marriage: perpetual and non-perpetual. Of the perpetual prohibitions is marriage between humans and jinn; it is not lawful for a member of human kind to marry a jinni.

    Allah Almighty says: ''O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind)" (An-Nisaa': 1). He Almighty also says: "It is He Who created you from a single person, and made his mate of like nature." (Al-A`raf: 189).

    An unauthentic hadith was reported on the authority of Ibn Abi Ad-Dunya to the effect that it is forbidden to marry the jinn.

    According to Rad Al-Mehtar `ala Ad-Dur Al-Mukhtar by Ibn `Abdein, a Hanifi scholar, the jurists define marriage as "a contract that makes it lawful for a man to make love to a woman without there being a lawful prohibition to this marriage."A lawful prohibition here refers to marriage to another man or to a hermaphrodite, a polytheist woman, a closely related woman, or a female jinn.

    Contemplating the verses ''Marry women of your choice" (An-Nisaa?: 3) and"And Allah has made wives for you from among yourselves" (An-Nahl: 72), one can realize that it is only women of human kind that are lawful for men to marry. In addition, a jinn male may take the form of a female and vise versa.

    Also according to Al-Ashbah, a book on juristic rules by Ibn Nujaym, marriage between a human and a jinni is not lawful, for they are of different worlds.

    It was said that Al-Hassan Al-Basri was of the opinion that such a marriage is lawful so long as there are witnesses to it. But it was also reported that he did not believe it is lawful.

    Any way, the more correct opinion to follow in this regard is that it is not lawful for a human being to marry a jinni, for they are of different worlds.


    In Al-Ashbah wa An-Nadha'r, Imam As-Suyuti, an eminent Shafi`i scholar, wrote: ''Answering the question 'is it lawful for a human being to marry a jinni?' Imad Ibn Yunus said, 'Yes.'

    This question was also one of those that Sheikh Jamal Ad-Din Al-Esnawi posed to the supreme judge Sharaf Ad-Din Al-Barazi.

    Sheikh Jamal asked the supreme judge, "Is it lawful for a man to marry a female jinn?" Contemplating Allah's Words "And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves" (Ar-Rum: 21), I find that from among yourselves refers to that one's mate or spouse is to be from the same kind as one, and this is a blessing from Almighty Allah. But if we supposed that this might be lawful, as Ibn Unus said in Sharh Al-Wajeiz, would the man in this case have the right to oblige his jinn wife to stick to home or not? Suppose also that he would dislike to see her in a form other than the human one; would he have the right to prevent her from incarnating in other forms? Also, would the conditions required in a valid marriage contract be required in this case, also? For instance, would the jinn's guardian's approval be required? Would their marriage be acceptable according to the jinn laws? Suppose that once, he did not recognize her, for she was incarnating in a form different from that he usually sees her in, but she told him it was she. Would he believe her and thus could he make love to her? Would he also be required to provide her with food that the jinn eat, such as bones and the like?"

    The supreme judge Sharaf Ad-Din Al-Barazi answered:

    It is not lawful that members of human kind marry members of jinn kind. This is inferred from the following verses: 'And Allah has made wives for you from among yourselves' (An-Nahl: 72) and 'And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves' (Ar-Rum: 21).

    The exegetes say about these verses that the words from among yourselves in both verses refer to human kind; they may be paraphrased from your own kind or from your own nature.

    These verses are analogous to the verse"Now hath come unto you a Messenger from amongst yourselves" (At-Tawbah: 128), for from amongst yourselves here refers also to human kind.

    Besides, Allah Almighty refers in His Book to the women who are lawful for men to marry:"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts" (Al-Ahzab: 50). [What was applied to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) according to this verse is also applied to Muslim men in general.] Mind that it is juristically known that this verse also indicates that single women who are not related to one may also be marriageable to one.

    Allah Almighty also refers in His Book to the women who are prohibited in marriage to one. Notice all this is about marriage to women of human nature. This is because there is no marriage between human beings and jinn. (The words of Sharaf Ad-Din Al-Barazi end here.)

    [Still according to As-Suyuti,] Sheikh Jamal Ad-Din Al-Esnawi commented:

    This is Al-Barazi's answer. If I was asked for my opinion in this, I would say that marriage between human beings and jinn is unlawful for many reasons.

    First, Al-Kermani reported in his Masa'il that there was a hadith reported to the effect that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade marriage from the jinn.

    Though this hadith is not authentically reported, yet its truthfulness is supported by the opinions of the scholars in that respect. For example, Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Qatadah, Al-Hakam ibn Uyaynah, Ishaq ibn Rahawei, and `Uqbah Al-Assam were of the opinion that this marriage is not lawful. Also, Al-Jamal As-Sajstani, a Hanifi scholar, said in his book, Minyat Al-Mufti `an Al-Fatawa As-Sirajjiyyah: "Marriage between human kind and jinn is not lawful, for they are of different worlds."

    Second, the aims of marriage are to find tranquility, peace, and compassion with a partner close to one. All this would be lacking with jinn partners, for hatred for human kind is innate in their nature.

    Third, there is nothing in the Shari`ah to the effect that it is permitted to marry members of the jinn. Allah Almighty says: "Marry women of your choice" (An-Nisaa: 3). It is known that women refers to female members of human kind. This indicates that it is unlawful to marry other than women.

    Fourth, it is not principally permitted for a free man to marry a slave woman, in order that they not may bring forth a slave child, which is not in the interest of the child. By comparison, marrying a female jinn may result in bringing forth a child having jinn characteristics, which is far worse than slavery. Hence, so long as it is not permitted for a free man to marry a slave woman, though both belong to the same kind (human kind), it is with greater reason not to permit marriage to jinn, for they are of different nature.

    By analogy, we also find that it is prohibited to cross donkeys and horses, for this results in a hybrid different from horses, and this may, in turn, lead to the rarity of horses. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) commented on those who do so by saying, "Those who do so are ignorant." If so is the case with animals, it is with greater reason that it also be the case with marriage between humans and jinns.

    However, Abu `Uthman Sa`id ibn Al-`Abass Ar-Razi said in his book Al-Ilham wa Al-Waswasah that it was reported that some Yemeni people wrote to Imam Malik: "A male jinni has come to us and proposed to marry a young (human) woman saying, "I seek to stick to the right path by this proposal." Imam Malik answered, "I see that there is nothing wrong in doing so, but I dislike to expose this woman to a situation where she might be asked about her husband and she would answer, "It is a male jinni. This may lead to corruption among Muslims."

    In his book Akam Al-Murjan, Ash-Shabli, a Hanifi scholar, stated: Scholars are of two opinions regarding marriage between humans and jinn. One says it is unlawful and the other says it is lawful. The first view was adopted by a group of Hanbali scholars and was also reported in As-Seraji Fatwas. They cited as evidence in this respect Almighty Allah's words "And Allah has made wives for you from among yourselves" (An-Nahl: 72) and "And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect" (Ar-Rum: 21). They also cited as evidence in this regard a hadith to the effect that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) prohibited marriage to jinns. The second point of view in this regard was reported to have been adopted by Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Qatadah, and others.

     

    So the problems in marrying a jinn woman are the difficulty that she will be in her different incarnations & her husband might fail to recognize her, she will need a jinn wali & her husband might be unable to provide her with jinn food like bones? Shocked

    Just how foolish is it possible to become? These discussions about jinns were definitely Mo's  Blonde yet Islam is a scientific faith!

    If I were a five year old & was asked whether marriage between humans & mermaids were allowed, I would answer in the affirmative as I loved Disney's Little Mermaid & I would say that the mermaid needs to become human first, but when I grew older, I wouldn't dream of saying such stuff! rofl

    This site speaks of different types of jinns & mentions books which have proven their existence!


    Quote from: kalamullah jinns
    Abu Tha'labah al-Khushani said: "The Messenger of Allaah said: "The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey." [Shaykh al-Albaani said in al-Mishkaat (2/1206, no. 4148): al-Tahhaawi and Abu?l-Shaykh reported it with a saheeh isnaad]

     

    Our world is apparently full of these  ghost ghost ghost ghost which were first discovered in pre Islamic Arabia, before Islamic science made them widely known! Lmao






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  • Re: Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #1 - May 27, 2009, 03:44 PM

    :::SIGH:::  Huh?


    That's IOL for you!

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  • Re: Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #2 - May 27, 2009, 04:20 PM

    :::SIGH:::  Huh?


    That's IOL for you!



    This part is the funniest!  rofl

    Quote from: Islamonline
    But if we supposed that this might be lawful, as Ibn Unus said in Sharh Al-Wajeiz, would the man in this case have the right to oblige his jinn wife to stick to home or not?

    Suppose also that he would dislike to see her in a form other than the human one; would he have the right to prevent her from incarnating in other forms?

    Also, would the conditions required in a valid marriage contract be required in this case, also? For instance, would the jinn's guardian's approval be required?

    Would their marriage be acceptable according to the jinn laws?

    Suppose that once, he did not recognize her, for she was incarnating in a form different from that he usually sees her in, but she told him it was she. Would he believe her and thus could he make love to her?

    Would he also be required to provide her with food that the jinn eat, such as bones and the like?"

    Fourth, it is not principally permitted for a free man to marry a slave woman, in order that they not may bring forth a slave child, which is not in the interest of the child. By comparison, marrying a female jinn may result in bringing forth a child having jinn characteristics, which is far worse than slavery. Hence, so long as it is not permitted for a free man to marry a slave woman, though both belong to the same kind (human kind), it is with greater reason not to permit marriage to jinn, for they are of different nature.

      

    Even a jinn woman needs a wali &her earthly husband has the right to expect subservience from her! furious

    If a man & a jinn fall in love  001_wub  & decide to marry despite the opposition & protests of fundies?I feel I'm reading a Beauty & the Beast or Little Mermaid kind of fairy tale! great

    If only everything  Islamonline said was  harmless fantasy like this, but many stuff are seriously unpleasant, misogynist & intolerant!   GoodVsBad

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  • Re: Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #3 - May 27, 2009, 08:09 PM

    How can we take these religionists seriously? Politically we kind of have to, because were living in a democracy which means were ruling alongside these nutcases. It's an issue that's been bugging me recently.

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  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #4 - September 10, 2015, 03:27 PM

     Cheesy

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #5 - September 10, 2015, 06:01 PM

    If I could marry a Jinn I would. Think about how wonderful and novel of a relationship that would be!

    how fuck works without shit??


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  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #6 - September 11, 2015, 06:07 AM

    So Islamonline is discriminating against the earthly woman, by not even discussing the possibility of a human woman marrying a jinn man. How so very unbalanced of Islam! finmad We don't even feature in fairy tales. Roll Eyes


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  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #7 - September 11, 2015, 10:03 AM

    It's assumed that the male passes the religion to the children. The interesting thing is that in judism the religion is passed on through the mother and in christianity no parent passes it on, the child has to accept Jesus. Roll Eyes

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #8 - September 11, 2015, 10:19 AM

    It's assumed that the male passes the religion to the children. ...................

    assumptions  are there in all religions .. they are dime a dozen created by innumerable imbecile bums.. 

    So unless their respective religious scripture says those assumptions otherwise I am going to beat the assumptions   and those who created them . If they are in the original scriptures I am going to put them in dustbin.. 

    So does Quran say the male passes the religion to their offsprings?

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  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #9 - September 11, 2015, 11:26 AM

    So with these assumptions (a muslim man can marry a non muslim because islamically penis beats vagina) how will they cope if the mum's a jew who states "Actually according to my religion if your mum's a jew you're a jew?"

    Obviously there's the question of what devout jew would marry a muslim in the first place, but putting that aside, I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #10 - September 12, 2015, 07:41 AM

    Would these same ruling apply if, say, we encountered some aliens and replaced "jinni" with "alien of a gender we may or may not comprehend"?  whistling2

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  • Islamonline Fatwa- Intermarriage between Humans & Jinns!
     Reply #11 - September 12, 2015, 12:26 PM

    That question must be asked. Please!  Cheesy
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