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  • New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     OP - July 19, 2009, 03:34 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yd2lrKIc8w
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #1 - July 19, 2009, 10:54 PM

    That's a pretty crazy story. I don't know what's crazier-- the fact he did all that in the first place, or, if true, that's he's talking about it on YouTube. I mean, if you wanted to leave that all behind you, seems like posting your story on YouTube, complete with a timeline of events, specific places and names, is a bad way of going about it. I expect he'll be getting a visit from the SIS and CIA now, if he hasn't already, but, more importantly, he might be targeted by his former comrades.

    Not sure what he's thinking, but the guy's got some serious fuckin balls on him, gotta give him that.

    fuck you
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #2 - July 19, 2009, 11:06 PM

    It is a pretty crazy story - The bit about wanting to fight Americans made me wince - I can't relate to wanting to take up arms against anyone.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #3 - July 19, 2009, 11:09 PM

    Was this true at all times, even during your hardline muslim days?

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  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #4 - July 19, 2009, 11:11 PM

    So we know his name, his date of birth, which university he is studying at and which subject he is studying.

    Either he is a liar or he is a fool.

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #5 - July 19, 2009, 11:15 PM

    or both

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  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #6 - July 19, 2009, 11:16 PM

    Was this true at all times, even during your hardline muslim days?


    Definitely! I always thought the Jihadi types were a bit crazy - and scary - even when I was at my most devout and pious.

    In fact I believe I related the story of a Moroccan friend who became a Jihadi and tried to get me to join - and I was very religious then. I tried to talk him out of it - I took the view (as most around me did) that the Jihadis were extremists.

    This idea that all pious and devout Muslims are Jihadis, fanatics and 'bad human beings' is bullshit - surely you know that?

    That's the sort of crap FFI'ers peddle!
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #7 - July 19, 2009, 11:25 PM

    I remember when this convert Muslim met up with me in town just to threaten me never to say anything about his relationship with Allah ever again. That scared the shit out of me. All I did was quote a verse from the Qur'an which said something like, if you do so and so then you are not of those obedient to Allah or something like that. I was using it to correct his attitude towards something I can't remember what exactly but he was one pretty extreme Muslim so I guess it had something to do with that. He was scary. I didn't have many clashes with other Muslims over religious matters whilst being a Muslim myself, so it really scared me.

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #8 - July 19, 2009, 11:28 PM

    So we know his name, his date of birth, which university he is studying at and which subject he is studying.

    Either he is a liar or he is a fool.


    Or, to use the vernacular of my environment, a not givin a fuck motherfucker.

    Sounds like that one dude who didn't trust him enough to send him to the training camp had it right-- if this story is true and he's sharing all this, it's displaying an amazing lack of discipline and recklessness to post this video. Like I said, maybe he just don't give a fuck, but a guy like that would be a liability to an underground insurgent organization (or a counterinsurgency/counterintelligence organization for that matter). Probably make a great Marine or crazy-ass suicide bomber, though.

    fuck you
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #9 - July 20, 2009, 11:02 AM

    I am sceptical about his story.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #10 - July 20, 2009, 12:01 PM

    Defo. Btw King Tut, nice to see you again. Either you haven't been on in a long time or we just coincidently been involved in different threads lol.  Afro

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #11 - July 20, 2009, 02:14 PM

    Fake?

    ...
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #12 - July 20, 2009, 02:20 PM

    Defo. Btw King Tut, nice to see you again. Either you haven't been on in a long time or we just coincidently been involved in different threads lol.  Afro


    Thanks. I was banned for three weeks.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #13 - July 20, 2009, 02:26 PM

    Oh really? How come?

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #14 - July 20, 2009, 02:38 PM

    It was due to a thread I made about how you can include trust and love in a woman, using a chemical, which is also naturally produced in the brain, namely Oxytocin.   
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #15 - July 20, 2009, 03:09 PM

    How have your 3 weeks away been?  Did you miss us?

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  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #16 - July 20, 2009, 06:20 PM

    Quote from: Hassan
    This idea that all pious and devout Muslims are Jihadis, fanatics and 'bad human beings' is bullshit - surely you know that?

    They are certainly fertile soil for Jihadists to grow upon. Some of the nastiest human beings I have met were devout Muslims.

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #17 - July 20, 2009, 06:34 PM

    He seems legit to me.

    http://charleswardle.com/


    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #18 - July 20, 2009, 06:41 PM

    im willing to give him the benefit of my doubts...

    ...think about this guy; without trying to sound nasty, hes got some real issues. He went from the peace a quiet of NZ to become a radical jihadist...to kill Americans who have done nothing to him.

    Posting his story on youtube is tiddywank in comparison. He may have come away from all the jihad nonsense, which i think is great...still dont mean to say you can take the 'mad' out of the man...

    ....good story though glad he posted for us to hear!
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #19 - July 22, 2009, 11:54 PM

    Hi all
     far away hug

    Glad to be on a forum of ex Muslims Smiley

    I hope you guys are wrong about my sanity though  parrot



  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #20 - July 22, 2009, 11:57 PM

    Hello.   Smiley  Is that you in the vid?  If so, do you mind if we ask you loads of questions about it?   parrot

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #21 - July 23, 2009, 12:05 AM

    Yes it is  parrot

    Sure, honestly, ask anything you want.

    I might not be able to answer everything straight away, but I'll do my best Smiley
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #22 - July 23, 2009, 12:10 AM

    Thanks.   Smiley

    I was curious what set you off down that path to begin with, because in the vid it sounds like you wanted to fight jihad before you even converted to Islam?

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #23 - July 23, 2009, 12:10 AM

    Welcome Charles, I've seen a part of your video so far but I have to say that it is quite brave of you to come out like that Smiley I'll watch it properly when I get a chance.

    Hope you feel welcome on this forum yes
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #24 - July 23, 2009, 12:30 AM

    Hey Cwar068! I'd like to ask you if you think you have put yourself in any kind of danger by making that video and if you think you have, do you care?

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #25 - July 23, 2009, 12:42 AM

    Thanks.   Smiley

    I was curious what set you off down that path to begin with, because in the vid it sounds like you wanted to fight jihad before you even converted to Islam?


    Hope you don't mind but I'll make a video about that this evening hopefully and post it.  If I don't get it done by then, then I'll just write a post about it instead.  Just that I think it's better if I answer that a little more fully then I would in a few paragraphs.  

    You are right though, I actually approach the mujahideen before I became a Muslim, and they are the ones who "guided" me.  

    Welcome Charles, I've seen a part of your video so far but I have to say that it is quite brave of you to come out like that Smiley I'll watch it properly when I get a chance.

    Hope you feel welcome on this forum yes


    Thanks Smiley  I'm sure I will  parrot

    Hey Cwar068! I'd like to ask you if you think you have put yourself in any kind of danger by making that video and if you think you have, do you care?


    Hi!

    Well I think there are far more dangerous things one could do with one's life.  No, I don't care, or I wouldn't have done it.  That doesn't mean I'm careless though (at least not in my opinion Smiley)
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #26 - July 23, 2009, 12:45 AM

    Quote
    Hope you don't mind but I'll make a video about that this evening hopefully and post it.


    That sounds like it'll be an interesting vid.   Afro

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #27 - July 23, 2009, 12:50 AM

    Yes it is  parrot

    Sure, honestly, ask anything you want.

    I might not be able to answer everything straight away, but I'll do my best Smiley

    Do you own any sheep?  grin12

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #28 - July 23, 2009, 12:51 AM

    Do you own any sheep?  grin12


    I have  parrot parrot Smiley
  • Re: New Zealander Ex-Muslim
     Reply #29 - July 23, 2009, 12:58 AM

    What kind?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
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