Heretical Sufi sect getting notice in Indonesia

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OP - July 29, 2009, 06:57 AM

I've just recently heard of these guys, they are called Tariqat Naqsabandiyah.
I dont know too much about them, except that they go by 20 tenets, which include a disbelief in angels, a belief that God had a Son, and a suggestion that 5-times a day prayers are not always needed.

but they got the attention of the Indonesian Ulema Council, who apparently are bored with harrassing Ahmadiyya for a moment and is now freaking out about these guys.

Anyone know much about them? I guess they are actually an international sect.

Either way, their beards are impressive

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Reply #1 - July 29, 2009, 07:32 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleven_Naqshbandi_principles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqshbandi

I think the coolest one is from my cool forebearer, Owaisiyah .

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Reply #2 - July 29, 2009, 08:11 AM

thanks, just wanted to check if the Ulema Council was making things up again.... surprise, they are

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Reply #3 - July 30, 2009, 03:55 AM

Quote from: Homer on July 29, 2009, 06:57 AM
I've just recently heard of these guys, they are called Tariqat Naqsabandiyah.
I dont know too much about them, except that they go by 20 tenets, which include a disbelief in angels, a belief that God had a Son, and a suggestion that 5-times a day prayers are not always needed.

but they got the attention of the Indonesian Ulema Council, who apparently are bored with harrassing Ahmadiyya for a moment and is now freaking out about these guys.

Anyone know much about them? I guess they are actually an international sect.

Either way, their beards are impressive

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Naqshbandiyat have been around for ages in Indonesia, and all of the ones I know, from different sub-groups, are totally normal - ha ha - Muslims. They certainly pray 5 times a day.

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Reply #4 - July 30, 2009, 08:27 AM

Nasqbandi Sufis have been around for ages and not just in Indonesia. From memory they're a traditional sect that goes back centuries. I know there are some in Afghanistan and for those who remember Idries Shah, he was Nasqbandi.

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