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 Topic: The Film: "The Message"

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  • The Film: "The Message"
     OP - August 11, 2009, 09:10 PM
    Someone sent me a link to this film and it brought back memories as I watched this back in 1979 when I first became practicing.

    I certainly can't be bothered watching it all now lol, but I thought I'd post it for anyone who hasn't seen it and wanted to see the one and only (approved) film about Islam and Muhammad.  grin12

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx9xztIN2XM
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #1 - August 11, 2009, 09:15 PM
    I tried watching it the other night. I haven't seen it since I was a kid so I borrowed it off someone. But I looked at the cover and it was 3 hours long. I thought "Fuck that for a game of soldiers!"
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #2 - August 11, 2009, 09:40 PM
    You lack faith!  Wink
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #3 - August 11, 2009, 11:03 PM
    Watched it when I was still a Muslim. I remember the scene, where Muhammad escapes to Medina and is received with delightful singing and great joy by the people there; that made me happy and gave me goosebumps all over the back of my body. Smiley
    In hindsight I think that the movie is pretty whitewashed, because it doesn't relate any of the inhuman things Muhammad and his followers committed according to the ahadith and Sira.
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #4 - August 11, 2009, 11:05 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on August 11, 2009, 09:15 PM
    I tried watching it the other night. I haven't seen it since I was a kid so I borrowed it off someone. But I looked at the cover and it was 3 hours long. I thought "Fuck that for a game of soldiers!"

     Cheesy
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #5 - August 11, 2009, 11:12 PM
    that film is total bullshit. Portrays Muslims as constant victims and never the aggressors, ignores Muslim crimes and mo raping and pillaging
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #6 - August 11, 2009, 11:14 PM
    Damn, it is three hours long. I didn't last the 1st half an hour.

    I think i'll pass for now.
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #7 - August 11, 2009, 11:15 PM
    Of course, it's based on Muslim sources, texts and done through the eyes of a Muslim. It's one giant ego-boost for the religion of Islam.

    Plus do you really expect a nonbiased biopic from the people who blanked out his face to follow Islamic law??
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #8 - August 11, 2009, 11:17 PM
    Quote from: pakman on August 11, 2009, 11:12 PM
    that film is total bullshit. Portrays Muslims as constant victims and never the aggressors, ignores Muslim crimes and mo raping and pillaging

    What were you expecting -  scences of Mo engaging in paedophilia?
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #9 - August 12, 2009, 12:45 AM
    Quote from: pakman on August 11, 2009, 11:12 PM
    that film is total bullshit. Portrays Muslims as constant victims and never the aggressors, ignores Muslim crimes and mo raping and pillaging


    +1
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #10 - August 12, 2009, 12:46 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 11, 2009, 11:17 PM
    What were you expecting -  scences of Mo engaging in paedophilia?


    That'd be the end of everyone's careers who made the movie. Even their lives.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #11 - August 12, 2009, 12:55 AM
    The guy who directed it died a few years ago I think when there was that bomb explosion in Lebanon I think. Anyhow I first saw the film when I was eighteen. I think I even have a digital re-mastered version on DVD. At the time and even a few years after, the movie and the soundtrack used to give me goosebumps. The scene where Mo enters Madina and the last sermon would always make me well up with tears. Propoganda is a great tool. The soundtrack is still haunting IMHO.
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #12 - August 12, 2009, 07:36 AM
    His name was Moustapha Akkad and he was a Syrian who immigrated to America with $200 and a quran, years later he became quite successful as a producer (working on the Halloween series as well).

    The ironic thing is he spent his life trying to improve the image of Islam, yet he was blown away by Al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda affiliated group in Jordan (not Lebanon). Irony right?
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #13 - August 12, 2009, 07:40 AM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 12, 2009, 07:36 AM
    The ironic thing is he spent his life trying to improve the image of Islam, yet he was blown away by Al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda affiliated group in Jordan (not Lebanon). Irony right?


    Yes, I remember when that happened and I thought - that just about says it all! What sad irony.
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #14 - August 12, 2009, 07:48 AM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 12, 2009, 07:36 AM
    His name was Moustapha Akkad and he was a Syrian who immigrated to America with $200 and a quran, years later he became quite successful as a producer (working on the Halloween series as well).

    The ironic thing is he spent his life trying to improve the image of Islam, yet he was blown away by Al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda affiliated group in Jordan (not Lebanon). Irony right?


    Wow... that just defines irony.

    I remember being made to watch this movie at sunday school as part of our "entertainment". I really liked Irene Papas' and Anthony Quinn's performances. I always felt bad for the Hind character... we were supposed to hate her, but I just felt bad for her. It only made sense years later why I felt that way, after seeing the truth about Islam and its history.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #15 - August 12, 2009, 07:55 AM
    Didn't she convert later on anyway, so even as a muslim you weren't supposed to hate her, she was a Sahabi. wacko
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #16 - August 12, 2009, 08:01 AM
    Quote from: awais on August 12, 2009, 07:55 AM
    Didn't she convert later on anyway, so even as a muslim you weren't supposed to hate her, she was a Sahabi. wacko


    Yeah I guess she did, with her husband Abu Sufyan... but it was one of those defeated conversions. Plus, this was in a shia mosque and shias don't believe that anyone in abu sufyan's family were actually muslims (him, mauwiya, yazid etc.) They're voracious villains, according to shias. So Hind was very much hated as a pagan queen who ate Hamza's heart after having him assassinated.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #17 - August 12, 2009, 08:04 AM
    Sliding offtrack: I had never heard of Yazid or Muawiyah before I met a shiite who claimed I followed them. Had to look them up. Then I asked a brother what he though about them, and he quoted Uthaymeen as saying they were Mulook as-Saalih (Righteous Kings) ! mysmilie_977
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #18 - August 12, 2009, 08:05 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 11, 2009, 09:10 PM
    ....I'd post it for anyone who hasn't seen it and wanted to see the one and only (approved) film about Islam and Muhammad.  grin12



    Actually Hassan, the film never was approved by all Islamic countries. Saudi Arabia for example banned the movie and did not allow the Crew to enter KSA to film there. Mustafa Al-Akad filmed some parts from the movie in Morocco, then KSA forced Moroco to evacuate and stop the filming. Only country that allowed it is filming and invited Al-Akad to finish the film in it's land was Libya. After that Libya asked him to make a movie about Omar Al-Mukhtar (The Lion of the Desert) who resisted the Italian occupation of Libya.

    The idiots of Saudi Arabia thought Al-Akad would document the whole story and maybe they did not like that. If they knew he would only show the nice side of the story, they would have funded the whole movie.

    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 12, 2009, 07:36 AM
    His name was Moustapha Akkad and he was a Syrian who immigrated to America with $200 and a quran, years later he became quite successful as a producer (working on the Halloween series as well).

    The ironic thing is he spent his life trying to improve the image of Islam, yet he was blown away by Al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda affiliated group in Jordan (not Lebanon). Irony right?




    Yes you are right Mustafa Al-Akad is the producer and director of Halloween (all 8 parts). He was the first to make a movie that have sequals. I mean he started the Part 1, part 2 etc style of movies...

    More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moustapha_Akkad
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #19 - August 12, 2009, 08:10 AM
    Quote from: awais on August 12, 2009, 08:04 AM
    Sliding offtrack: I had never heard of Yazid or Muawiyah before I met a shiite who claimed I followed them. Had to look them up. Then I asked a brother what he though about them, and he quoted Uthaymeen as saying they were Mulook as-Saalih (Righteous Kings) ! mysmilie_977


    Yah... the hatred between shias and sunnis is comparable to, maybe even bigger than, the hatred some muslims hold towards nonmuslims/"the west". It's quite a spectacle, a 1400 year old civil war being fought online and on the streets from pakistan to iraq.  Cat fight
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #20 - August 12, 2009, 11:26 AM
    Oh Hassan! Thanks for reminding me! I immediately felt sick when I saw the title of this thread!

    About a year ago, I invited some friends over and we decided we would play a game - when we saw something in the movie that we knew was inaccurate, we'd eat some chocolate (we had M&M's, smarties, maltesers, etc...).

    Suffice it to say we only made it ~1/2 way through before we were all on sugar overload and I felt sick for quite a few days after.

    Although we were warned the opening title made us all say "this will NOT end well." LOL
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #21 - August 12, 2009, 11:56 AM
     Cheesy  Reminds me of my sister. One Easter when she was small she ate so many chocolate eggs that she wouldn't touch the stuff for years afterwards.
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #22 - August 12, 2009, 11:58 AM
    LOL Os, I did that with white chokky one easter.

    I can't eat it to this very day.
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #23 - August 12, 2009, 12:04 PM
    I watched this film as a child, didn't realise at the time I was seeing lies though.

    It's one of my ex's favourite films too lol.

    Anyway I got a more emotional reaction to "the prince of egypt", that made me cry and believe in god for awhile.  Cheesy
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #24 - August 12, 2009, 06:50 PM
    Quote from: 20yearstoolong on August 12, 2009, 12:55 AM
    The guy who directed it died a few years ago I think when there was that bomb explosion in Lebanon I think.


    He was killed in the Amman hotel bombings on November 9 2005 (11/9/2005 or 9/11/2005 depending on how you write it) when four terrorists from Iraq crossed the border and deliberately targeted Western chain hotels to send well to do Jordanians and Western tourists (aka infidels) a message, as well as a message to Jordan as a whole that they should not lend support to the Americans in this war.  His daughter also died, I believe, as did the parents of a couple who were celebrating their wedding in one of the hotels.  One bomber survived, a woman who failed to detonate her bomb and was arrested a day or two later.  She was the wife of one of the other bombers - married to him only because it is forbidden for a woman to travel that distance  (Iraq to Jordan) without a mehrem.  I shit you not. 

    I had read somewhere that Akkad's son is going to be finishing his last movie... I forget, I think it is about Salahuddin or Harun Rashid or one of these big Muslim figures. 
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #25 - August 12, 2009, 06:57 PM
    I think he should make a movie about how g8 Al-Zarqawi was! grin12
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #26 - August 13, 2009, 04:10 AM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 11, 2009, 11:15 PM
    Of course, it's based on Muslim sources, texts and done through the eyes of a Muslim. It's one giant ego-boost for the religion of Islam.

    Plus do you really expect a nonbiased biopic from the people who blanked out his face to follow Islamic law??

    I thought they avoided the islamic sources and texts when they did this movie.
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #27 - August 13, 2009, 06:04 AM
    You'd be wrong then.

    Akkad made a lot of effort to get the film approved by Islamic authorities and did a lot of consultation and research and did get the approval of places like al-Azhar - but others refused and there were demos against it in some places.
  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #28 - August 13, 2009, 06:07 AM
    Why were there demos? I would have thought it would be popular in the Islamic world as long as it was a hagiography.
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  • Re: The Film: "The Message"
     Reply #29 - August 13, 2009, 06:12 AM
    Even though Akkad bent over backwards not to upset the religious (after all he never actually depicted the prophet) some were still outraged. This was 1976 and Muslims were not used to seeing a film about their religion. Many took offence to the fact that some companions were shown. I believe also that the word went around that the prophet was actually shown (facts have never got in the way of an angry mob.)
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