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  • Ethnic and cultural identity.
     OP - August 17, 2009, 06:36 PM
    Guy's

    Since leaving Islam, have any of you had any issues with cultural or ethnic identity since leaving Islam? It is fairly tied into culture, particularly if you are from an Indo/Pak background.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #1 - August 17, 2009, 06:42 PM
    Nope.
    My culture and ethnicity pre dates Islam but unfortunately that does not mean we do not now have elements of it now incoporated in.

    dancing etc. is not very Islamic
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI1j29Ywm9M
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #2 - August 17, 2009, 07:14 PM
    If you can shake your ass like that Meredith we will definetly have to to fir a drink
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #3 - August 17, 2009, 07:42 PM
    Not at all...
    There are 450.000 Jewish, Christian and Atheist Moroccans just in Morocco (rest of the world not included).
    I'm just one of them...

    I do "feel not at home" 5 times a day when I'm in Morocco... There are way too many mosques where I live.
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #4 - August 17, 2009, 07:51 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on August 17, 2009, 06:42 PM
    My culture and ethnicity pre dates Islam but unfortunately that does not mean we do not now have elements of it now incoporated in.

    Love the way she shook her booty
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #5 - August 17, 2009, 08:02 PM
    The only issue I have is having to follow the culture while at home. I always hated my culture even when I was a muslim. I have never fitted in to it, some of my cousins think I'm weird because I am the complete opposite to the female stereotype of my culture.
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #6 - August 17, 2009, 08:07 PM
    Quote from: 20yearstoolong on August 17, 2009, 06:36 PM
    Guy's

    Since leaving Islam, have any of you had any issues with cultural or ethnic identity since leaving Islam? It is fairly tied into culture, particularly if you are from an Indo/Pak background.


    I've always had problems with my ethnic and cultural identity.

    Oddly enough leaving Islam has eased this problem.

    I am me - the Egyptian and the English - and they don't have to battle for supremacy anymore.

    I see religion as bullshit and something that I do NOT have to attach to either my Egyptian nor English side of me.

    Simplz!
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #7 - August 17, 2009, 08:10 PM
    I think it's shit being born a Muslim from a Pakistani family. You are made to feel guilty for having fun, your parents and your people hold you back. No one values culture, creativity, innovation and art. They want to produce obediant robots who lead exactly the same lives.  
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #8 - August 17, 2009, 08:13 PM
    Quote from: pakman on August 17, 2009, 08:10 PM
    You are made to feel guilty for having fun, your parents and your people hold you back. No one values culture, creativity, innovation and art. They want to produce obediant robots who lead exactly the same lives. 

    Spot on!
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #9 - August 17, 2009, 08:14 PM
    Quote from: pakman on August 17, 2009, 08:10 PM
    I think it's shit being born a Muslim from a Pakistani family. You are made to feel guilty for having fun, your parents and your people hold you back. No one values culture, creativity, innovation and art. They want to produce obediant robots who lead exactly the same lives.  


    Pakman, did you find that when you got married, your standing in the family increased massively, and you had a lot more respect than before?
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #10 - August 17, 2009, 08:16 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 17, 2009, 08:07 PM
    I am me - the Egyptian and the English

    So what part of your personality/nature is Egyptian?
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #11 - August 17, 2009, 08:20 PM
    On pak culture marriage is a sign of coming of age and you are suddenly taken seriously by the elders. I couldn't give a shit anyway since I don't have much respect fir them anyhow
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #12 - August 17, 2009, 08:23 PM
    I know what you mean. If an unmarried person won a nobel prize, they would still not have as much respect as a married person.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #13 - August 17, 2009, 08:25 PM
    Quote from: pakman on August 17, 2009, 08:20 PM
    On pak culture marriage is a sign of coming of age and you are suddenly taken seriously by the elders. I couldn't give a shit anyway since I don't have much respect fir them anyhow

    ..and when you have children then you reach the last & final rung of this hiererchical ladder. 
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #14 - August 17, 2009, 08:26 PM
    They don't even care if you are screwing around as long as married life is maintained. Even worse for women, none stop hassle if your single
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #15 - August 17, 2009, 08:35 PM
    good muslim < good exam results < good job < get good muslim wife < good parents < respectful of the elders
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #16 - August 17, 2009, 08:53 PM
    Quote from: pakman on August 17, 2009, 08:10 PM
    I think it's shit being born a Muslim from a Pakistani family. You are made to feel guilty for having fun, your parents and your people hold you back. No one values culture, creativity, innovation and art. They want to produce obediant robots who lead exactly the same lives.  


    I think what you have stated is the majority. Luckily I come from a family that is very well educated and expect their kids, boys and girls to be independent. Alot of them might draw the line when it comes to religion, but it is rarely discussed. I only ever have one contention with family members, and that is the "just-n-case" muslims. To me if your going to follow religion then do it properly.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #17 - August 17, 2009, 09:26 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on August 17, 2009, 06:42 PM
    Nope.
    My culture and ethnicity pre dates Islam but unfortunately that does not mean we do not now have elements of it now incoporated in.

    Somali dancing etc. is not very Islamic
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI1j29Ywm9M

     dance Ok lads, who wants to move to Somalia?  bunny
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #18 - August 17, 2009, 09:30 PM
    I always feel sorry for South Asians in the UK when it comes to Islam and Islamic culture, their culture is practically built around it from the ground up and thus leaving Islam and seperating culture and religion is indeed very difficult.

    In fact one of the lines I've read on many apostate testimonys/bios is: "You are betraying your culture......" when it comes to leaving Islam.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #19 - August 17, 2009, 09:41 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 17, 2009, 08:35 PM
    good muslim < good exam results < good job < get good muslim wife < good parents < respectful of the elders

    ^ If you take out the word "muslim" then I'd like to have all of those things.
    .
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #20 - August 17, 2009, 09:44 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on August 17, 2009, 09:41 PM
    ^ If you take out the word "muslim" then I'd like to have all of those things.

    Thats the point, you cant if you want you're parents to be happy.  You have to do everything, or they never will be.
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #21 - August 17, 2009, 09:46 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on August 17, 2009, 09:26 PM
    dance Ok lads, who wants to move to Somalia?  bunny


    When i went Somalia this year, the Islamists stopped a wedding because there was music and dancing which was seen as unislamic (Similar to the one in the video but more explicit)

    They are slowly destroying my culture in E Africa :(

    But thankfully it continues here. Just went to my aunt's wedding yesterday
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #22 - August 17, 2009, 09:47 PM
    Quote from: pakman on August 17, 2009, 07:14 PM
    If you can shake your ass like that Meredith we will definetly have to to fir a drink


    Lol, who can't dance like that?

    And as long as your buying .. Tongue
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #23 - August 17, 2009, 09:48 PM
    Excellent, we buy the drinks, you shake dat booty!
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #24 - August 17, 2009, 09:49 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 17, 2009, 09:48 PM
    Excellent, we buy the drinks, you shake dat booty!


    Lol, deal!
    I get more from this than you
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #25 - August 17, 2009, 09:50 PM
    I'll buy all night Meredith
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #26 - August 17, 2009, 09:51 PM
    Quote

    When i went Somalia this year, the Islamists stopped a wedding because there was music and dancing which was seen as unislamic (Similar to the one in the video but more explicit)

    They are slowly destroying my culture in E Africa :(

    But thankfully it continues here. Just went to my aunt's wedding yesterday



    Yep, Gawd, Jaysus, Moshe and Ayllah have a tendency to destroy people and their cultures, nationalities and ethnicities.

    Jealous wankers.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #27 - August 17, 2009, 09:52 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on August 17, 2009, 09:46 PM
    When i went Somalia this year, the Islamists stopped a wedding because there was music and dancing which was seen as unislamic.

    They are slowly destroying my culture :(

    Some bastards need to get a life. They should all be tied to posts and made to wear funny hats and watch women dancing like that all day.  parrot
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #28 - August 17, 2009, 09:54 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on August 17, 2009, 09:52 PM
    Some bastards need to get a life. They should all be tied to posts and made to wear funny hats and watch women dancing like that all day.  parrot


    I know, you'd think they would enjoy it but nope, holier than thou

    The men get to watch as well in some cases ...

    Well they were watching at the wedding yesterday where we were dancing.
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  • Re: Ethnic and cultural identity.
     Reply #29 - August 17, 2009, 09:55 PM
    You better be good though meredith coz I only go to expensive bars
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
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