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 Topic: Religions: show-off events?

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  • Religions: show-off events?
     OP - August 22, 2009, 05:24 AM

    Although Islam seems to be the mother of all show-offs, other religions too characterized by doing rituals in groups and trying to over do these to show off infront of your people or your friends. For example, Muslims go to prayers in groups and fast in groups and go to Mecca in groups.... And you will always find a person somewhere who would be calling the others to do whatever religious stuff he/she will be doing. Christians too, the most devoted will be pestering the other members of the family and try to take them to church on sundays etc.

    Hindos and Jewish people are not different either...

    What I always hated, when someone enters a room where many are siting having fun and will be showing of his water driping arms and wet hair (Wodoo) and starts preaching about the benefit of group prayers and the effect of immediate praying on time and how that will please the never pleased Allah!

    Do you think that too? Then give examples of show off events even for other religions...

    P.S: how to set up a poll for the most show-off religions known to man?

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  • Re: Why religion has to be a show-off thing?
     Reply #1 - August 22, 2009, 05:36 AM

    Islam wasn't too show off in my experience. If you're showing off, you're committing hidden shirk!

    Christianity- dress to impress in your Sunday best.

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #2 - August 22, 2009, 05:39 AM

    What gets me is the people who show off their "humility" and are proud of it. A lot of religious people do that one. yes

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #3 - August 22, 2009, 05:43 AM

    I agree!! I hate religious showoffs, and all this bullshit about "personal" and inner character when all they do is dictate to others and you have to "prove" how muslim you are by praying and behaving like wth?

    Closets after closets
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #4 - August 22, 2009, 05:43 AM

    Quote
    Islam wasn't too show off in my experience. If you're showing off, you're committing hidden shirk!

    Christianity- dress to impress in your Sunday best.



    I must had the most shirk-doers as friends then... LOL.

    I always heard them or at least they made sure that I know somehow that they are fasting or are going to the mosque for prayers, and would sometimes try to convince me to do the same.

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #5 - August 22, 2009, 06:49 AM

    Actually, this Ramadan, we (my wife and I) will be having the most difficult part of our first year together as Ex-Muslims. We still can not tell our little children that we don't fast, as they are meeting with their cousins and relatives of their own age frequently at the play ground and we are so afraid that this will confuse them.

    What makes me starting this thread is that the other kids asks them questions like: whether or not they were fasting? And they are like only 6 and 11 years of age. We could just make them stop going to the play ground, but that would not stop the kids from coming over to play with them as they live next door.

    Yesterday one of the parents caught me saying to his 6 years old (in a pre-Ramadan picknick!) that he should not be fasting as that is bad for his health, I told him not until he was old enough to fast (18+), and the parent was furious. He said he wanted them to get used to fasting as early as possible. He said that he (the parent) started fasting when he was only 5 (1 Show-off credit here). I was like: what? Are you crazy? Then he quoted me a hadeath about Muslims should order kids to pray at 7 years of age and beat them if they don't at 10 years of age...

    Anyways, we can not tell our children that we are not fasting and not praying until they are old enough to understand what this is all about. I will make sure, however, that they will understand later the bullshitness of the whole religion bullshit and that they have to decide for themselves later if they wanted to follow a religion or not.

    My 6 years old son asked me once.... why I was not praying like our cousin Fred (obviously not his real name!), and I told him that I was, but in my own way and in the privacy of my room and that it is not good to pray in front of other people, maybe in Mosques you can... I said. I told him that cousin Fred is not doing it right, because a good Muslim does not show off and pray in front of other people, he should pray or fast in privacy. I know I might be exaggerating but we live in a Muslim country and I am puzzled on how to make them survive the next few years as they grow up, without them thinking that they are different from their peers. finmad

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #6 - August 22, 2009, 06:59 AM

    It must be bloody difficult alright. Over in the West we don't even think of "Christian countries" any more, or at least most people don't. We just have countries. The ones who classify their country according to their religion are generally regarded as nutters. Common term for them in Australia is "god botherers".  grin12

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #7 - August 22, 2009, 12:39 PM

    LOL... God Bothereds Cheesy

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #8 - August 22, 2009, 01:28 PM

    I remember when we were kids we would show off by telling each other how many fasts we were able to keep. Obviously the novelty wore off when I hit my period wacko I know you're meant to make up the fasts after but I was never made to do that by my mum, thank god.

    Luckily in my family it is not important for the kids to fast.
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #9 - August 22, 2009, 04:42 PM

    yea SAME, i'm only expected to keep a couple ugh

    I feel sorry for women and their periods, it's just such a demented reasoning

    Closets after closets
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #10 - August 22, 2009, 08:41 PM

    Why feel sorry for them? They get to eat.  grin12

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #11 - August 22, 2009, 10:35 PM

    Yeah, ramadan made me glad I had periods Tongue
  • Re: Why religion has to be a show-off thing?
     Reply #12 - August 23, 2009, 04:08 AM

    Islam wasn't too show off in my experience. If you're showing off, you're committing hidden shirk!


    Probably too cold up there to show off.  In my experience Islam was way more show-offy than Xtianity.  Who has the longest beard? The pants rolled up above the ankle? A kufi or not a kufi?  The blackest niqab? The baggiest abaya?  The longest khimar?  The guy who has no furniture because "it's sunnah to sit on the floor, akh".  Who put their elbows out the widest when sujooding.  Who is the most zahid.  Who has the nicest misbaha - and the sufis are so serious about this they will spend hundreds of pounds or dollars on rare wood and stone beads.  There was one company who used to advertise their misbahas - that were really expensive - as 'for people who count'!  Talk about riya! 

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #13 - August 23, 2009, 04:25 AM

    the hare krishnas are the biggest show offs - they claim to be all about 'spirituality' , overcoming the ego etc , but you cant go down oxford street without them popping up with their drums and their flourescent robes ...
      same applies to buddhists , they can't stop telling you about it , and the dalai llama 's a complete publicity whore , always posing with richard gere and his hollywood buddies
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #14 - August 23, 2009, 05:33 AM

    Why feel sorry for them? They get to eat.  grin12


    I'm mostly talking about how it's a disease and makes them unclean hahaha I seriously wish I had periods during Ramadan, I was so jealous of people who have that excuse

    Closets after closets
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #15 - August 23, 2009, 08:22 AM

    Yeah, ramadan made me glad I had periods Tongue


    LOL.... but ur expected to repay your dues!!! Do you know what? Mo have misses a golden opportunity to win more females into Islam. IF only he said that it is OK for women in periods and women who breast feed to skip Ramadan and Salat and don't have to re do them. Roll Eyes

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #16 - August 23, 2009, 08:48 AM

    When you think about it this whole "women having periods are unclean" thing is stupid. I mean if women didn't have periods they wouldn't be having kids either, which means no little Muslims for teh ummah. So if anything they should be getting credit for it rather than being stigmatised for it. Mind you, that would be logical.  whistling2

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #17 - August 23, 2009, 09:19 AM

    "How come you're not fasting?" "err.. I'm menstruating." Cheesy

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #18 - August 23, 2009, 10:39 AM

    Talking about periods, I was on the bus the other day and I saw a hijabi girl with painted nails. And I can't believe the first thing I thought was "she's on her period!"

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #19 - August 23, 2009, 10:40 AM

    I tell you what really get on my tits....

    When you get people who say God has found them, 'look how happy i am, i feel soooooo great everything is special in my life now that im with god, im so happy look how happy i am im a happy happy person i MUST let everyone know how happy i am and how they too can be as happy as me if only they would listen they dont know what they are missing! they must be so sad living the way they do i MUST help them!' ....

    meh, go get lost in your hippy dippy emotions, so people like to get miserable and pissed off ok? lol
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #20 - August 23, 2009, 10:43 AM

    Talking about periods, I was on the bus the other day and I saw a hijabi girl with painted nails. And I can't believe the first thing I thought was "she's on her period!"


    lol!

    Thats kind of something i dont understand...

    ...sometimes ill see a muslim woman with the hijab on...but shes all dolled up with face paint, tight jeans, hands full of primarni shopping bags, heeled shoes, and the hijab shes got on is like a leopard skin thing.... wacko


    whats the deal with that?
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #21 - August 23, 2009, 10:47 AM

    Also (this is a joke)....one thing ive never really got my head around with religious women....

    ....why do the fat and ugly ones still cover up? no ones gonna be tempted...lol
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #22 - August 23, 2009, 10:51 AM

    lol!

    Thats kind of something i dont understand...

    ...sometimes ill see a muslim woman with the hijab on...but shes all dolled up with face paint, tight jeans, hands full of primarni shopping bags, heeled shoes, and the hijab shes got on is like a leopard skin thing.... wacko


    whats the deal with that?


    I know what you mean! My cousin, covers her head, but wears short skirts/dresses and leggings! So she is not really doing hijab is she. But on the other hand I suppose the head covering is not just about covering up, but may also be a statement to say "I am a Muslim, and I am not available to lads".


    By the way, if anyone didn't get the painted nails thing, you can't pray with painted nails, so if a woman is on her period, she doesn't have to pray and can paint her nails.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #23 - August 23, 2009, 01:22 PM

    This is one situation I would not wish on my worst enemy.
    Having to put up an act and lie to your children for their protection.

    What would happen, should it become known that you are apostates?
    Are there any local support organisations for people in this situation?
    Am I being na?ve?

    My heart goes out to you - I hope you find a way.
  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #24 - August 23, 2009, 02:08 PM

    Do you think that too?

    Have you considered moving to another country, say the UK or US?

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #25 - August 23, 2009, 03:59 PM

    Naahh, I am doing well where I live right now. Moving means that I have to start all over. I prefer to visit the UK or other European countries just for our holidays.

    For pretending in front of my Kids... LOL I guess it is the other way around with the rest of you here at COEM. You have to pretend in front of your parents. That is an interesting irony!

    The reason as I said is that because they are so young at the moment and I don't want to confuse them. But obviously, will tell them when they are old enough to understand. I am sure they will be thrilled to know that they don't have to pray for an invisible Man in the sky nor have to starve themselves for the sake of religion.


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  • Re: Why religion has to be a show-off thing?
     Reply #26 - August 23, 2009, 04:01 PM

    Probably too cold up there to show off.  In my experience Islam was way more show-offy than Xtianity.  Who has the longest beard? The pants rolled up above the ankle? A kufi or not a kufi?  The blackest niqab? The baggiest abaya?  The longest khimar?  The guy who has no furniture because "it's sunnah to sit on the floor, akh".  Who put their elbows out the widest when sujooding.  Who is the most zahid.  Who has the nicest misbaha - and the sufis are so serious about this they will spend hundreds of pounds or dollars on rare wood and stone beads.  There was one company who used to advertise their misbahas - that were really expensive - as 'for people who count'!  Talk about riya! 


    I remember all this nonsense and doing some of those things. I bought things from "SHUKR" as well!
  • Re: Why religion has to be a show-off thing?
     Reply #27 - August 23, 2009, 04:40 PM

    Probably too cold up there to show off.  In my experience Islam was way more show-offy than Xtianity.  Who has the longest beard? The pants rolled up above the ankle? A kufi or not a kufi?  The blackest niqab? The baggiest abaya?  The longest khimar?  The guy who has no furniture because "it's sunnah to sit on the floor, akh".  Who put their elbows out the widest when sujooding.  Who is the most zahid.  Who has the nicest misbaha - and the sufis are so serious about this they will spend hundreds of pounds or dollars on rare wood and stone beads.  There was one company who used to advertise their misbahas - that were really expensive - as 'for people who count'!  Talk about riya! 


    Fading dear, that was exactly what I wanted to say. Afro

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  • Re: Why religion most of the time is a show-off event?
     Reply #28 - August 23, 2009, 04:49 PM

    LOL.... but ur expected to repay your dues!!! Do you know what? Mo have misses a golden opportunity to win more females into Islam. IF only he said that it is OK for women in periods and women who breast feed to skip Ramadan and Salat and don't have to re do them. Roll Eyes

    My mum never made me repay my missed fasts luckily.
  • Re: Why religion has to be a show-off thing?
     Reply #29 - August 23, 2009, 07:48 PM

    I remember all this nonsense and doing some of those things. I bought things from "SHUKR" as well!


    ?40 for a cotton top.  But it's an Islamic cotton top!  Not like those kafir tops in Marks & Sparks.  I always loved the ?75 dresses. 

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