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Reply #90 - December 04, 2009, 11:36 AM

Quote from: IsLame on December 04, 2009, 09:53 AM
I am surprised he got away with the things he said in a muslim country, and still got away with it to become a respected leader of the country.

I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. At the time of Ataturk the Ottoman empire was in ruins and Turkey's reputation was in turmoil. Ataturk did his people a huge favour by rescuing his country and bringing about democracy. If it was still left to the Ottomans, Turkey would have been part of some other empire while they were jollying up with the concubines and eunochs.
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Reply #91 - December 09, 2009, 01:10 PM

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Reply #92 - December 09, 2009, 03:14 PM

Quote from: IsLame on December 04, 2009, 09:53 AM
I am surprised he got away with the things he said in a muslim country, and still got away with it to become a respected leader of the country.

Not really. He only said the more anti-Islamic things later on or in private. And later on he had already gained the total respect and obedience of the turkish people because if it wasn't for his brilliant command all of western Turkey, including Constantinople, might have been lost to Greece and the western powers.

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Reply #93 - December 10, 2009, 12:38 AM

Why are there arguments for God's existence? People don't argue over things they know exist. An argument for God is simply a hidden admission that he or she doesn't know. The very fact that there is an argument at all is evidence for agnosticism and doubt. - Ignots Pistachio

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Reply #94 - December 10, 2009, 03:58 AM

Now that is a good one.

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Reply #95 - December 10, 2009, 04:40 AM

Religion supports nobody. It has to be supported. It produces no wheat, no corn; it ploughs no land; it fells no forests. It is a perpetual mendicant. It lives on the labors of others, and then has the arrogance to pretend that it supports the giver. ~Robert G. Ingersoll

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Reply #96 - December 10, 2009, 11:31 AM

Nice ones there angel - I bet Baal likes the first one!

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Reply #97 - December 10, 2009, 03:58 PM

One that we have all heard before, and I believe is one of the most powerful arguments to use against muslims..

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

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Reply #98 - December 10, 2009, 04:03 PM

'If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.' - Joseph Goebbels

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Reply #99 - December 11, 2009, 03:21 AM

Quote from: IsLame on December 10, 2009, 03:58 PM
One that we have all heard before, and I believe is one of the most powerful arguments to use against muslims..

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

I love that one. Everyone is an atheist. People just don't realize it.

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Reply #100 - December 11, 2009, 03:39 AM

Quote from: IsLame on December 10, 2009, 03:58 PM
One that we have all heard before, and I believe is one of the most powerful arguments to use against muslims..

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

This makes a lot of sense. Goes to show why the majority of Muslims who doubt/leave Islam, turn to agnosticism/atheism, rather than believe in the other Gods, i.e turn to Christianity etc.

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Reply #101 - December 11, 2009, 11:05 AM

Quote from: Ibn Saba on December 11, 2009, 03:39 AM
This makes a lot of sense. Goes to show why the majority of Muslims who doubt/leave Islam, turn to agnosticism/atheism, rather than believe in the other Gods, i.e turn to Christianity etc.

I can't speak for other people, but I had always thought that islamic theology and sources were far more stringent and thought out. There was at least some methodology such as "ijaza" and "isnaad" which might not be scientific but in comparison to other religions faired better in my opinion. When I was muslim, the type of diety that islam presented was basically a take it or leave it type of diety. This is how God was and that's the long and short of it. Particularly in mainstream islam.

I couldn't take christianity seriously because of all the reformations and the watering down of their concept of a diety and of hell.
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Reply #102 - December 14, 2009, 09:44 AM

"I am the sum total of everything that went before me, of all I have been seen done, of everything done to me.
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Reply #103 - December 14, 2009, 10:22 AM

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Reply #104 - December 14, 2009, 08:32 PM

That works.

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Reply #105 - December 16, 2009, 02:51 AM

"Science is the poetry of reality" - Dawkins, Richard - Enemies of Reason

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Reply #106 - December 16, 2009, 09:33 PM

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Reply #107 - December 16, 2009, 09:43 PM

Here's a great quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vhj0oho6f8

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Reply #108 - December 16, 2009, 09:47 PM

Yes but as he points out, the quote was originally by the editor of New Scientist magazine.

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Reply #109 - December 16, 2009, 09:52 PM

Yeah, I know.. but it sounds cooler this way...

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Reply #110 - December 16, 2009, 11:03 PM

How about this one?

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."

Sir Richard Francis Burton

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Reply #111 - December 17, 2009, 01:39 PM

I personally look up to this site in terms of Quotes. It's brilliant;

http://nobeliefs.com/quotes.htm

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Reply #112 - December 17, 2009, 01:47 PM

lets have your favourite ones then..

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Reply #113 - December 17, 2009, 02:16 PM

I would say most quotes on there would be on my favourites. If I was to select a few;

~ Why are there arguments for God's existence? People don't argue over things they know exist. An argument for God is simply a hidden admission that he or she doesn't know. The very fact that there is an argument at all is evidence for agnosticism and doubt.

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~ If you value faith over science, next time you get sick, skip the hospital . . . Go to Church instead.

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~ Although the time of death is approaching me, I am not afraid of dying and going to Hell or (what would be considerably worse) going to the popularized version of Heaven. I expect death to be nothingness and, for removing me from all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism.

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~ When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? It is because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.

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~ I came to the conclusion that, given the technology of modern warfare, war is inevitably a war against children, against civilians. When you look at the ratio of civilian to military dead, it changes from 50-50 in World War II to 80-20 in Vietnam, maybe as high as 90-10 today. ? When you face that fact, war is now always a war against civilians, and so against children. No political goal can justify it, and so the great challenge before the human race in our time is to solve the problems of tyranny and aggression, and do it without war.

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Reply #114 - December 17, 2009, 02:23 PM

Great stuff from Jesus here:

New International Version (?1984)
10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

10:37
"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;

that second verse sounds familiar...

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Reply #115 - December 17, 2009, 02:30 PM

Quote from: Angel54 on December 17, 2009, 02:23 PM
Great stuff from Jesus here:

New International Version (?1984)
10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

10:37
"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;

that second verse sounds familiar...

so does the first one

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Reply #116 - December 17, 2009, 02:32 PM

This is what made me question God the most:

God either wants to eliminate bad things and cannot, or can but does not want to, or neither wishes to nor can, or both wants to and can. If he wants to and cannot, he is weak -- and this does not apply to god. If he can but does not want to, then he is spiteful -- which is equally foreign to god's nature. If he neither wants to nor can, he is both weak and spiteful and so not a god. If he wants to and can, which is the only thing fitting for a god, where then do bad things come from? Or why does he not eliminate them?"
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Reply #117 - December 17, 2009, 02:34 PM

Quote from: IsLame on December 17, 2009, 02:30 PM
so does the first one

Yes, true, but I have a harder time imagining that Jesus would want everyone to love him more than their family. Dont know why- that reminds me more of Mo than the 1st one.

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Reply #118 - December 17, 2009, 02:36 PM

Quote from: Angel54 on December 17, 2009, 02:32 PM
This is what made me question God the most:

God either wants to eliminate bad things and cannot, or can but does not want to, or neither wishes to nor can, or both wants to and can. If he wants to and cannot, he is weak -- and this does not apply to god. If he can but does not want to, then he is spiteful -- which is equally foreign to god's nature. If he neither wants to nor can, he is both weak and spiteful and so not a god. If he wants to and can, which is the only thing fitting for a god, where then do bad things come from? Or why does he not eliminate them?"
-Epicurus

Thats not what Epicurus said: This is what he said -

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? - Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? - Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? - Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

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Reply #119 - December 17, 2009, 02:37 PM

Quote from: Angel54 on December 17, 2009, 02:34 PM
Yes, true, but I have a harder time imagining that Jesus would want everyone to love him more than their family. Dont know why- that reminds me more of Mo than the 1st one.

Opposite hold true for me, as its more tyrannical and in keeping with that brutes character

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