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OP - September 18, 2009, 08:44 PM

I'm not an ex-Muslim, rather an ex-Atheist. I've been around the internet a bit, and decided to check this forum out after a topic in the MPAC UK forum (as I'm sure some of you probably already know about, and if you do see or post at that forum, you might recognise the name) between Muzzylogic and Softly Spoken.

Seeing as this community is a lot more open, I expect my stint here will be longer than the English Defence League forum which thought I was some strange conspirator.
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Reply #1 - September 18, 2009, 08:59 PM

Hello Mikebloke, welcome to the forum.

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Reply #2 - September 18, 2009, 09:14 PM

Hi & welcome!

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Reply #3 - September 18, 2009, 09:14 PM

Welcome. Ex-Atheist eh? What kind of theist are you now? How and why?

I've never heard of the EDL.

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Reply #4 - September 18, 2009, 09:18 PM

Quote from: Mikebloke on September 18, 2009, 08:44 PM
I'm not an ex-Muslim, rather an ex-Atheist. I've been around the internet a bit, and decided to check this forum out after a topic in the MPAC UK forum (as I'm sure some of you probably already know about, and if you do see or post at that forum, you might recognise the name) between Muzzylogic and Softly Spoken.

Seeing as this community is a lot more open, I expect my stint here will be longer than the English Defence League forum which thought I was some strange conspirator.

Hi Mikebloke - and welcome - my nick on MPACUK is Mahmoud
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Reply #5 - September 18, 2009, 09:19 PM

Welcome. What little I have heard of EDL indicates that you will be better off here.

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Reply #6 - September 18, 2009, 09:19 PM

Quote from: awais on September 18, 2009, 09:14 PM
Welcome. Ex-Atheist eh? What kind of theist are you now? How and why?

I've never heard of the EDL.

EDL are the wankers going around starting trouble at mosques. Basically they are BNP supporters.
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Reply #7 - September 18, 2009, 09:22 PM

Ah, thanks. Wankers.

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Reply #8 - September 18, 2009, 11:35 PM

The name says it all: English Defence. Obviously they have to defend England against non-English people, right?

Anyway welcome Mikebloke. Make yourself at home.

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Reply #9 - September 18, 2009, 11:46 PM

Welcome Mike Are you a theist, deist or agnostic now? You should tell us more about yourself

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Reply #10 - September 19, 2009, 01:25 AM

Welcome Mike, sorry to hear you weakened up and chose to accept believing in mickey mouse instead.

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Reply #11 - September 19, 2009, 05:47 PM

Squeek Squeek

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm now a Muslim, hehe. I thought I'd save that for my second post. I do recognise you Hassan for the MPAC forum, although admittedly I did poke my head in here once or twice before I registered so I knew your connection :p

The EDL forum experience was unique, got banned once because they believed I was part of a group trying to shut them down, then the administrator apologised and said he'd help me out, then a day later before I even made another post I was banned with the message "Haha we've got two more of you now". Very strange place.

I guess I should go a little into my background, English lad, Church of England Primary school, never baptised, confused religious beliefs during youth, upset during my teens being a National Front and BNP supporter, realised I was a dork and moderated my views, then later became Muslim. Bit of a roundabout life I guess.

I live in Wiltshire, UK where I was born and grew up, pretty much the most least-Muslim populated county in England.
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Reply #12 - September 19, 2009, 05:50 PM

May I ask what motivated you to become a Muslim?
What were the selling points?
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Reply #13 - September 19, 2009, 06:01 PM

lol I should probably have seen that coming What made you convert to Islam?

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Reply #14 - September 19, 2009, 06:05 PM

Hi Mike.

Quote from: PeruvianSkies on September 19, 2009, 06:01 PM
lol I should probably have seen that coming What made you convert to Islam?

I too want to know, as I'm sure many others do.

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Reply #15 - September 19, 2009, 06:12 PM

Quote from: Mikebloke on September 19, 2009, 05:47 PM
Squeek Squeek

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm now a Muslim, hehe. I thought I'd save that for my second post. I do recognise you Hassan for the MPAC forum, although admittedly I did poke my head in here once or twice before I registered so I knew your connection :p

The EDL forum experience was unique, got banned once because they believed I was part of a group trying to shut them down, then the administrator apologised and said he'd help me out, then a day later before I even made another post I was banned with the message "Haha we've got two more of you now". Very strange place.

I guess I should go a little into my background, English lad, Church of England Primary school, never baptised, confused religious beliefs during youth, upset during my teens being a National Front and BNP supporter, realised I was a dork and moderated my views, then later became Muslim. Bit of a roundabout life I guess.

I live in Wiltshire, UK where I was born and grew up, pretty much the most least-Muslim populated county in England.

I'm interested to know what steps you took from being an atheist to becoming a muslim? I think there are some steps inbetween these two ends of the spectrum. Please enlighten us?
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Reply #16 - September 19, 2009, 06:54 PM

I remember you Mikebloke, good to hear from you again. I used to like your sensible posts on MPAC, though that site has gone completely mad recently, and anti-semetic. As someone who made the opposite journey to you, I would be interested to hear about what attracted you to Islam. And what keeps you in it - if that is a topic you are happy to discuss.

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Reply #17 - September 19, 2009, 09:01 PM

Hi Mikebloke,

Welcome to the forum. I'm Softly Spoken / Dr Diavolo on MPACUK. Looking forward to some interesting discussions.

To other CEMB forum members, Mike is a very intelligent, politically astute Muslim with wisdom beyond his years. I hope everyone on the forum will extend him due courtesy.

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Reply #18 - September 19, 2009, 09:05 PM

Quote from: Dr Diavolo on September 19, 2009, 09:01 PM
Hi Mikebloke,

Welcome to the forum. I'm Softly Spoken / Dr Diavolo on MPACUK. Looking forward to some interesting discussions.

To other CEMB forum members, Mike is a very intelligent, politically astute Muslim with wisdom beyond his years. I hope everyone on the forum will extend him due courtesy.

Sure, he's most welcome.
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Reply #19 - September 19, 2009, 09:21 PM

Welcome Mike! Atheist to Muslim? You have to tell us how?

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Reply #20 - September 19, 2009, 10:11 PM

Welcome, Mike!

Result of spiritual drought experienced in early life, and with BNP, I suppose?

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Reply #21 - September 19, 2009, 11:29 PM

Salam Mike!

Looking forward to reading your messages and the discussions between you and the other members.

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Reply #22 - September 20, 2009, 09:00 PM

Quote from: Mikebloke on September 18, 2009, 08:44 PM
I'm not an ex-Muslim, rather an ex-Atheist. I've been around the internet a bit, and decided to check this forum out after a topic in the MPAC UK forum (as I'm sure some of you probably already know about, and if you do see or post at that forum, you might recognise the name) between Muzzylogic and Softly Spoken.

Seeing as this community is a lot more open, I expect my stint here will be longer than the English Defence League forum which thought I was some strange conspirator.

I looked around that forum for it, but I couldn't find the thread you were talking about. Would you be so kind as to provide a link? Thanks.

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Reply #23 - September 21, 2009, 02:57 AM

Welcome Mike! Make your self at home

I'm interested in reading your future posts and especially about your journey from Atheism to Islam. I hope it's not filled with personal/emotional reasons--much like Jeffery Lang. Instead I hope to see some concrete scientific reasons that persuaded you to choose Islam.

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Reply #24 - September 21, 2009, 06:46 AM

Quote from: Tommy on September 21, 2009, 02:57 AM
Welcome Mike! Make your self at home

I'm interested in reading your future posts and especially about your journey from Atheism to Islam. I hope it's not filled with personal/emotional reasons--much like Jeffery Lang. Instead I hope to see some concrete scientific reasons that persuaded you to choose Islam.

-Tommy

Jeffrey Lang! Wow now that's a name from the past. I read all three of his books when I was a muslim. I wonder whatever happened to him? He was on the lecture circuit back in the early nineties.
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Reply #25 - September 21, 2009, 07:25 AM

Hello mike, from the pan into the fire? from ~~atheism~~ BNP into islam? where you trying to atone for your hatred to 'asians'?

EDIT: Meant to say from bnp into islam,

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Reply #26 - September 21, 2009, 01:50 PM

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on September 21, 2009, 06:46 AM
Jeffrey Lang! Wow now that's a name from the past. I read all three of his books when I was a muslim. I wonder whatever happened to him? He was on the lecture circuit back in the early nineties.

I never read any of his books, but did watch a lot of his interviews and lectures on You Tube. I got the gist of his reason for conversion based on those interviews and lectures. All in all though, I like Lang. I think he's part of the solution, not the problem. He is one of those 'reform minded Muslims' and takes the Quran metaphorically. Can't go wrong with someone who publicly states he believes in Evolution, and takes the story of Adam and Eve metaphorically

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Reply #27 - September 21, 2009, 05:52 PM

Quote from: Tommy on September 21, 2009, 01:50 PM
I never read any of his books, but did watch a lot of his interviews and lectures on You Tube. I got the gist of his reason for conversion based on those interviews and lectures. All in all though, I like Lang. I think he's part of the solution, not the problem. He is one of those 'reform minded Muslims' and takes the Quran metaphorically. Can't go wrong with someone who publicly states he believes in Evolution, and takes the story of Adam and Eve metaphorically

I think he does keep himself to himself nowadays and has stopped the lecture circuit. I'd be surprised if he was still muslim. He was struggling with religion back then!
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Reply #28 - September 21, 2009, 06:29 PM

Yeah I think he may have left Islam. He had a lot of Muslim critics that accused him of Islamic reformation, and it's easy to imagine how that may have been like. I think he's a closet apostate, and probably will never come out. The reason why I say that is because he has gone pretty worldwide with his conversion. But then again, I hope I'm wrong and he does come out in public about his apostasy. Who knows.

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Reply #29 - September 21, 2009, 06:31 PM

Quote from: Tommy on September 21, 2009, 06:29 PM
Yeah I think he may have left Islam. He had a lot of Muslim critics that accused him of Islamic reformation, and it's easy to imagine how that may have been like. I think he's a closet apostate, and probably will never come out. The reason why I say that is because he has gone pretty worldwide with his conversion. But then again, I hope I'm wrong and he does come out in public about his apostasy. Who knows.

If he does come out then maybe people will stop posting youtube clips saying "Atheist converts to islam!"
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