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OP - October 15, 2009, 05:24 PM

Guys, have you ever after apostating subconsciously thought "What if I'm wrong?" I remember when I initially apostated it was one of the thoughts that went through my mind and I went through every single angle to see. Eventually I reasoned with myself that it was simply the empty threat of hell that made me feel like this. What about you?
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Reply #1 - October 15, 2009, 05:28 PM

Yep, even though I was way past the tipping point when I apostated and was already held back from apostating earlier for the very same reason of fear of being wrong.. I felt a little lonely and empty when I first said it, but felt great shortly after

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Reply #2 - October 15, 2009, 05:30 PM

I still ask myself that occasionally. I don't think I will stop asking myself that.

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Reply #3 - October 15, 2009, 05:34 PM

Quote from: aliadiere on October 15, 2009, 05:30 PM
I still ask myself that occasionally. I don't think I will stop asking myself that.

Do you reckon that's simply an inherent fear of the unknown or the psychological damage that islam actually inflicts on you such as hell etc?
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Reply #4 - October 15, 2009, 05:36 PM

Quote from: aliadiere on October 15, 2009, 05:30 PM
I still ask myself that occasionally. I don't think I will stop asking myself that.

You never know - time is a great healer. I no longer question if Islam is the correct religion, although I do still have internal debates about the existence of something supernatural..

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Reply #5 - October 15, 2009, 05:46 PM

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 15, 2009, 05:34 PM
Do you reckon that's simply an inherent fear of the unknown or the psychological damage that islam actually inflicts on you such as hell etc?

The way I see it is from the age of about 5 till the age of about 21, I firmly believed Islam to be true. Those beliefs were deeply implanted in my mind and they are not going to go away easily.

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Reply #6 - October 15, 2009, 05:53 PM

I remember not eating any pork after apostating. But I remember eating my first pork sausage, that as my first official slap of the face of Islam.

I think from that point I stopped having any real doubts, have you guy/girls eaten your first demarcating pork sausage?

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Reply #7 - October 15, 2009, 06:21 PM

You need a litmus test. Some baseline you can always fall back on.

For example, I have a fascination with alien life-form and that we might be visited by aliens. It is a psychological drive that I have to look on the outside. When I see patterns in the field, I fall back on the following litmus test:

"The patterns looked crappy in the fifties. Today the patterns look pretty damn awesome. There is no way a galaxy-traveling intelligence, needed to improve so much in the last 50yrs, when it is us humans that improved."

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Reply #8 - October 15, 2009, 06:27 PM

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 15, 2009, 05:24 PM
Guys, have you ever after apostating subconsciously thought "What if I'm wrong?" I remember when I initially apostated it was one of the thoughts that went through my mind and I went through every single angle to see. Eventually I reasoned with myself that it was simply the empty threat of hell that made me feel like this. What about you?

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Reply #9 - October 15, 2009, 06:48 PM

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 15, 2009, 05:24 PM
Guys, have you ever after apostating subconsciously thought "What if I'm wrong?" I remember when I initially apostated it was one of the thoughts that went through my mind and I went through every single angle to see. Eventually I reasoned with myself that it was simply the empty threat of hell that made me feel like this. What about you?

No.

I did not come to my decision quickly. Quite the contrary - it took me a very, very long time. A long period of doubt where I kept questioning and probing and testing and asking and reading etc... I tried everything I could and considered every angle I could - Sufism, Reform, just following my own personal interpretation - you name it. I didn't want to reject Islam. I left because there was simply no where else to go - the evidence against Islam was so overwhelming to me, I simply had no choice.

Since leaving Islam I seen nothing that I hadn't already raked over many times.
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Reply #10 - October 15, 2009, 06:54 PM

I'm with Hasan here. My journey was long and very painful. I actually want to believe. I want there to be an afterlife. I want to see my father again. I don't want to think that I will never see my children again after I die. But I have come to a conclusion which for me was difficult at first but now I am very confident that all religions are bull and 'what if' doubts never arise.

BTW Spicy Salami on Pizza is great.

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Reply #11 - October 15, 2009, 06:55 PM

Quote from: Hassan on October 15, 2009, 06:48 PM
Since leaving Islam I seen nothing that I hadn't already raked over many times.

Me too. In fact the only thing I have learned are new & extra reasons to apostate

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Reply #12 - October 16, 2009, 05:26 PM

I have yet to have my first pork food

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Reply #13 - October 16, 2009, 05:47 PM

Quote from: atheist.pk on October 16, 2009, 05:26 PM
I have yet to have my first pork food

I've had pepperoni on a pizza, but that's about it. I've yet to have a bacon or ham sandwich.
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