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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #30 - October 21, 2009, 12:06 AM

     Cheesy Good for her.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #31 - October 21, 2009, 12:14 AM

    That's a funny story, KL.  But its not in the same league as a woman not being able to step out of her house without being followed around by assholes chanting racist abuse and throwing bottles and stones at her.  What was shown in that programme goes beyond the kind of stupid tribalism all races exhibit,  and goes into the same level of hatefulness as the case where a family was harrassed so badly because the daughter had Down's Syndrome that the mother eventually cracked up and killed her daughter and herself.  The recent case of a gypsy family being hounded out of their home in Belfast also springs to mind.

    Let's face it, there is a problem among young white and usually working class people in the UK that ASBOs are not going to solve.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #32 - October 21, 2009, 12:21 AM

     Smiley   Point taken, never occured to me.
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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #33 - October 21, 2009, 01:00 AM

    That's a funny story, KL.  But its not in the same league as a woman not being able to step out of her house without being followed around by assholes chanting racist abuse and throwing bottles and stones at her.  What was shown in that programme goes beyond the kind of stupid tribalism all races exhibit,  and goes into the same level of hatefulness as the case where a family was harrassed so badly because the daughter had Down's Syndrome that the mother eventually cracked up and killed her daughter and herself.  The recent case of a gypsy family being hounded out of their home in Belfast also springs to mind.

    Let's face it, there is a problem among young white and usually working class people in the UK that ASBOs are not going to solve.


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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #34 - October 21, 2009, 01:19 AM

    Racism of a visceral kind against Asians and brown skinned people has always been about, it just has been marginalised and forced underground because a lot of people, Blacks, Asians of all faiths and white people who hate racism campaigned and took a stand on basic human dignity, about what is and isn't acceptable in a civilised society, and what language is not acceptable for usage against individuals.

    Growing up I saw and heard many racist things, not just against Asians but against Black people too. My Indian friends who were Hindu would be called 'Paki', I had a Greek Cypriot girlfriend who had dark hair and browny olive skin who endured being called a Paki when she lived in a certain area of London. We have to get over this, lay down the boundaries, and move on. Dehumanising, hateful language is a harbinger, and barometer of actual dehumanisation and bullying, violence and fear.


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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #35 - October 21, 2009, 01:32 AM

    True, but it runs a little deeper than that, I think.  Its the same contemptible side of some human nature that causes, for example, witchcraft accusations against widows and children in Africa.  Find somebody that's too vulnerable to fight back, and victimise them to exorcise your angst about your own, and your community's, problems. 

    Nothing shows that clearer than the difference between the reaction to the man and the woman in that programme.  He sometimes got harrassed, sometimes didn't.  She, OTOH, literally couldn't go beyond the front door without being targetted.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #36 - October 21, 2009, 11:48 AM

    Find somebody that's too vulnerable to fight back, and victimise them to exorcise your angst about your own, and your community's, problems.  


    Exactly! They were on a power trip. They see themselves as losers and victims and this gave them an opportunity to exercise power over somebody else. Remember the scene when the male reporter got punched in the face? The bullies couldn't handle the fact that he was answering back, they took it as a sign of confrontation and responded with violence.

    Btw this is an interesting take on everday racism - roles reversed (by ami from HP):

    Scene 1: Oxford Street, 1960s, my first visit to England, as a child. A man thrusts a monkey into my arms and prepares to photograph me and my little sister. Where are you from? he asks, as he focuses. My answer results in the monkey being snatched away, photo aborted, a look of loathing on the man's face.

    Scene 2: A street in Edgware, late 80s, shortly after I come here to live. A car is double parked next to mine, next to a post box. An AfroCarribean woman sits in the car, addressing Christmas cards. I call out of my window ? Could you move, please, I need to pick up my kid? She ignores me, finishes her cards, gets out and posts them, then strolls over to my window and drawls "You're not in South Africa now, dear." I sit stunned as her car pulls away. Suddenly I leap out into the path of her car, bang on her bonnet and yell "You don't know me! You know nothing about me!" Then; "I'd like to tell you why I am not in South Africa now." When I finish, she looks stricken and says "I'm sorry, I'm really sorry." We part with subdued mutual recognition.

    Scene 3: The M&S car park in NW London, late 90s. I am turning left into the car park from the road. Turning right, across the traffic into the car park, is barred with a large no entry sign. A car ignores this and suddenly cuts in front of me from the right. I approach the driver as he gets out of his car. Man in his 20s, clean cut, spivvy suit, close cropped hair. "You're not supposed to do that, you nearly hit me", I say. His eyes blaze. "Who the f- are you to speak to me? he yells with shocking ferocity. "you c- , you would be too scared to speak to a ( racially pejorative expletive ) in your own country like that cos he'd kill you, you c- !" I clap ironically. "Big brave man, speaking to me like that, do you call your wife or girlfriend a c- too?" . "Only when I f- her up the a-" he yells before rushing off into the store. Another man has witnessed this, his little daughter is sobbing, shocked. He tells me he knows this man and tells me something about him before driving off. In the storee the man is waiting at the till and I approach him glaring. "Get away from me," he yells, "you are too scared to go back to SA cos you're scared of the (racial pejorative)". I have the urge to stop his racial tirade at all costs, in front of the wide eyed Asian cashier. I lean and whisper close into his ear. "I know who you are and I am sure your family will be thrilled to hear how you behave." I add something which I will never disclose. This bit I am not proud of. He turns pale. "Not nice to be victimised, is it," I hiss. He stutters "You don't know me" and rushes out.

    Scene 4. A holiday charter plane about to leave Barbados, late 90s. We are about to put our stuff into the overhead locker when the couple in the seats in front of us chorus forcefully, "You can't put your stuff in that one, that's our locker". Even though there is enough room, we shrug and use another locker. Then we hear the husband, doing a parody of a South African accent:"Those cheeky blecks, telling us what to do." He is a large dreadlocked AfroCarribean man. We say nothing, but late at night, with my husband asleep, I cannot rest. I find some paper and write: "Dear neighbour, you said something earlier that was very hurtful. I know many white South Africans these days have rewritten their histories, to show why they shouldn't be condemned, but I hope if I tell you a little about us, you will think next time before you judge people just for the colour of their skin. Please don't try and say anything to my husband, as he will be embarrassed I have written this." I pass the note to him. After a short while, a large hand reaches back from the row in front, takes my hand and holds it tight for a moment. Nothing is said, but tears start in my eyes at this unexpected response.
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #37 - October 21, 2009, 09:58 PM

    That's a funny story, KL.  But its not in the same league as a woman not being able to step out of her house without being followed around by assholes chanting racist abuse and throwing bottles and stones at her.  What was shown in that programme goes beyond the kind of stupid tribalism all races exhibit,  and goes into the same level of hatefulness as the case where a family was harrassed so badly because the daughter had Down's Syndrome that the mother eventually cracked up and killed her daughter and herself.  The recent case of a gypsy family being hounded out of their home in Belfast also springs to mind.

    Let's face it, there is a problem among young white and usually working class people in the UK that ASBOs are not going to solve.

    I never meant to infer that my story was anything other than a funny personal anecdote. I haven't seen the programme in question but dont need to in order to be reminded that racism shows its face in much more crude and violent ways.
    However racism isnt always the snarling whiteboys hate-filled face, it can be as subtle as what I experienced or as awful as the stabbings between Asian youths and Afro-Caribbean youths in Bristol. Race problems in Britain are far more complex  than they are usually  perceived. But i repeat ,I wasn't trying to draw a comparison with my anecdote and anything from the programme , that would be ridiculous

    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #38 - October 22, 2009, 12:05 PM

    A very good article I thought:

    http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=1594



    Why are we ignoring the far right terror threat?



    Quote
    The West Yorkshire Police recently launched a huge series of raids against far-right groups and found them in possession of 80 bombs ? considerably more even than any jihadi group has been caught with in British history

     
     Britain is facing the real risk today of a bombing campaign that targets random civilians for death ? but it is being virtually ignored. When its supporters step closer every day to mass murder, nobody notices. When its perpetrators are caught, there is (at best) a little flick of information in News in Brief, before everyone goes back to talking about the Strictly Come Dancing race row. This silence suggests something dark about us ? and requires us to change our behaviour, fast.

    The campaign I am talking about is not being planned by jihadis or fringe Irish nationalists but by white "neo-Nazis" who want to murder Asians, black people, Jews and gays in the bizarre belief it will trigger a "race war".

    They have struck before. Exactly a decade ago, a 22-year-old member of the British National Party called David Copeland planted bombs in Brixton, Brick Lane (where I live), and a gay pub in Old Compton Street. He managed to lodge a nail deep in a baby's skull, and to murder a pregnant woman, her gay best friend, and his partner. He bragged: "My aim was political. It was to cause a racial war in this country. There'd be a backlash from the ethnic minorities, then all the white people would go out and vote BNP."

    The police are warning ever-more urgently that similar attacks seem to be coming today. The West Yorkshire Police recently launched a huge series of raids against far-right groups and found them in possession of 80 bombs ? considerably more even than any jihadi group has been caught with in British history.

    Last year, a 43-year-old man called Neil Lewington was arrested "on the cusp" of waging a "terror campaign", it emerged at his trial. He had built a bomb factory in his parents' house which he planned to use to launch attacks against people he considered to be "non-British". He was only caught by chance: he picked a panicked fight with a train conductor, and the police who turned up found he was laden with explosives.

    The list of far right-wingers who have been busted for planning violence has spiked up in the past few years. In the home of a BNP election candidate called Robert Cottage in 2008, the police discovered "the largest amount of chemical explosives ever found in this country", they said.

    The same year, a thug called Martyn Gilleard was caught with a huge stash of nail bombs, and rage-filled letters in which he declared: "I am so sick of hearing nationalists talk of killing Muslims, of blowing up mosques, of fighting back, only to see these acts of resistance fail to appear. The time has come to stop the talk and start to act." He was only caught by fluke: the police busted him for distributing child porn.

    It's not hard to get in on this act. There are dozens of far-right websites that explain ? with handy video links ? how to make bombs, and then urge you to head to the nearest mosque, synagogue or gay club.

    But as the New Statesman's Mehdi Hassan has pointed out, as far as public debate goes, it's as if these crimes never happened. While planned attacks by jihadis (rightly) dominate the news agenda for days, these remarkably similar plans pass unmentioned and unnoticed.

    This disjunction exposes a rash of hypocrisy. The parts of the right that gleefully blame all Muslims for the actions of a tiny minority are mysteriously reluctant to apply the same arguments to themselves. If Martin Amis was consistent, he should now declare: "The white community will have to suffer until it gets its house in order. What sort of suffering? Not letting them travel. Deportation. Strip-searching people who look like they're from Hampshire or from Surrey ... Discriminatory stuff, until it hurts the whole community and they start getting tough with their children."

    But of course he won't. It shows the bigotry at the core of these make-all-Muslims-pay arguments: they see brown-skinned people as a homogenous mass who can be collectively punished, while they see white people as discrete units who should only be punished individually.

    But these white bomb-makers also blast holes in the arguments put by some small parts of the left, who claim "terrorism" is only a response to "legitimate grievances". We can see that somebody like David Copeland simply had an insane hatred of black, Asian and gay people. It's a form of soft racism to fail to see that the same lunacy can happen to non-white people. The vile Islamist gang who wanted to blow up the Ministry of Sound really did say the women there were "slags" who deserved to die for wearing miniskirts. Sometimes (but not always), the grievances that drive violence are simply deranged and have to be resisted.

    While the threat of far-right violence is rising, the BNP leader, Nick Griffin, is going to appear on Question Time next week. It would be easy, and emotionally satisfying, for me to join the many well-intentioned protesters who are saying he shouldn't be there, but I can't do it. There are two reasons ? one moral, and one pragmatic.

    Freedom of speech includes the freedom to say abhorrent and repulsive things, or it isn't worth having. Why is our Britain vastly morally superior to the fantasy island that the BNP dream of building? Because we do not silence them ? even though they would silence so many of us.

    Then there's the pragmatic reason. The BNP is doing increasingly well in elections because there is a huge gap between the reality of the BNP and how their voters see them. I see this on the run-down estates where many of my relatives live: most of the BNP's voters believe they are a patriotic party who will peacefully defend the rights of the white working class, just as other organisations peacefully defend the rights of other ethnic groups.

    When they find out the BNP leaders have in fact praised Britain's greatest enemy, Adolf Hitler, derided the Holocaust as "the Holohoax", had violent maniacs in their senior ranks, and want to deport many of our national heroes like Ashley Cole and Trevor McDonald, they are disgusted, and withdraw their support. There is only a very, very small constituency in Britain for Holocaust denial, mass "repatriations", and the mongering of "race wars".

    So how do we close this perception gap? Shutting the BNP out of debate hasn't worked. They have been shut out and they have grown. In the darkness, the fungus can spread. The greatest disinfectant is sunlight, shone straight into Griffin's face. The only people who should fear free speech are the BNP, because when the British people hear what they have to say, and their lack of answers to basic factual questions, they are repelled.

    One of the areas where everyone should see Griffin being challenged is over this question of far-right violence. He claims he is "strongly" opposed to these freelance attacks ? yet he has kept violent attackers in his senior team.

    His chief lieutenant for years was a man called Tony Lecomber, who was jailed for three years in the 1980s for plotting to blow up the offices of a left-wing political party. After he was released, he and a gang then beat a Jewish teacher unconscious. When he was freed after another three years inside, he was swiftly promoted through the BNP ranks. He was only ditched after he approached a Liverpool hitman to discuss how they could "take out" a cabinet minister.

    One of the leading figures in the BNP's online operation, Lambertus Nieuwhof, tried to blow up a mixed-race school in South Africa in 1992. The BNP is happy to have him nonetheless. Nieuwhof says: "Everybody should be allowed to make a mistake."

    The BNP is not directly organising violence, but it has tolerated violent madmen in its midst, and its arguments have encouraged violence. Griffin has demanded "rights for whites with well-directed boots and fists". He reacted to the Soho nail-bomb by one of his own party's members by attacking the victims, saying they were "flaunting their perversion in front of the world's journalists, [and had] showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures disgusting".

    Let Griffin speak his filth to the nation, and sweat under David Dimbleby's forensic questioning. He will only discredit himself.

    But the country also needs to start acknowledging the danger of bombs thrown from the far right. David Copeland came from within the ranks of the BNP; so might the next one. The police need to monitor neo-Nazis as closely as jihadis, and the Government projects to prevent violent extremism should be working with white kids as well as Muslim children. We need to prepare ourselves now: the next person to bomb Britain might not look like Mohammed Sidiq Khan ? he might look like me.

     

     

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #39 - October 22, 2009, 12:21 PM

    The program can be watched through the following youtube link for those who missed it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqcScFprLYU

  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #40 - October 22, 2009, 12:23 PM

    I watched this program hwith disbelief. Like the reporter, I grew up thinking racism, also present, was fast becoming a thing of the past. Majority of my neighbours and friends were white and I didn't really experience the abuse I witnessed on Panorama. It was absolutely shocking. What concerned me most was the younger generation, the 11 year olds who were content in physically abusing and threatening you. What have they been socialised into? Kids do not just wake up one morning and decide to talk nasty.


  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #41 - October 22, 2009, 12:33 PM

    The program can be watched through the following youtube link for those who missed it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqcScFprLYU



    Thanks for the link - I missed it, so will watch it tonight via the link you've put up

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #42 - October 22, 2009, 12:37 PM

    It's still available on iPlayer:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nfr2h/Panorama_Undercover_Hate_on_the_Doorstep/
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #43 - October 22, 2009, 01:32 PM

    I watched this program hwith disbelief. Like the reporter, I grew up thinking racism, also present, was fast becoming a thing of the past. Majority of my neighbours and friends were white and I didn't really experience the abuse I witnessed on Panorama. It was absolutely shocking. What concerned me most was the younger generation, the 11 year olds who were content in physically abusing and threatening you. What have they been socialised into? Kids do not just wake up one morning and decide to talk nasty.


    Kids watch the news, the news publicises Anjem Choudary, the parents voice outrage, the kid see that it is something to be outraged about, and thus the view that all who happen to look like him must be a threat.

    Jews, to their own detriment, continuously asked themselves what they did to deserve it - what did they do wrong. When are Muslims going to start asking the tough questions instead of pleading victim all the time?

    I'm not defending thugs behaviour but the reality is that Muslims need some self reflection and realise why they're pissing mainstream British off.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #44 - October 22, 2009, 02:14 PM

    I saw the abuse raised on Panorama as being more to do with race (e.g. taunts of 'paki' and 'Iraq's that way') than Islam. Sure the woman was called a 'raghead' and other things to that regard but to many people in this country, being asian is sometimes synonymous with being a Muslim. If a white Muslim man had moved into that area I do not think he would have got as much hassle as the undercover reporters got.
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #45 - October 22, 2009, 02:25 PM

    A very good article I thought:

    http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=1594



    Why are we ignoring the far right terror threat?


    Because there isn't one.

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #46 - October 22, 2009, 02:27 PM

    Why do you think that?
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #47 - October 22, 2009, 02:28 PM

    Apart from the occasional lone nutter there isn't a concerted far-right terrorist campaign.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #48 - October 22, 2009, 02:29 PM

    I saw the abuse raised on Panorama as being more to do with race (e.g. taunts of 'paki' and 'Iraq's that way') than Islam. Sure the woman was called a 'raghead' and other things to that regard but to many people in this country, being asian is sometimes synonymous with being a Muslim. If a white Muslim man had moved into that area I do not think he would have got as much hassle as the undercover reporters got.



    Nobody is saying its about Islam.....its about visceral racist hatred. Forget about religion. If you are Hindu or Sikh or Christian or Buddhist and have brown skin, you will experience the same abuse in certain parts of the country.


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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #49 - October 22, 2009, 02:49 PM

    ^ I was responding to kaiwai's comments.
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #50 - October 22, 2009, 03:31 PM

    So why did the BBC feel the need to use a Muslim in a headscarf as their undercover reporter? Was it so they could categorize the antics of these thugs under the heading of "Racism and Islamophobia"?

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #51 - October 22, 2009, 03:41 PM

    Because the BBC's in on the leftist conspiracy for total Islamification of Western society, along with the Freemasons, the Trilateral Commission and the Jews-- I've got this great pamphlet by a John Birch Society splinter group that tells all about it. PM me your address and I'll send it to you-- it will rock your world.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #52 - October 22, 2009, 03:43 PM

    So why did the BBC feel the need to use a Muslim in a headscarf as their undercover reporter? Was it so they could categorize the antics of these thugs under the heading of "Racism and Islamophobia"?

    You sound worried about BBC exposing the real feelings inside those people just because they see someone different around  wacko

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #53 - October 22, 2009, 03:43 PM

    Because the BBC's in on the leftist conspiracy for total Islamification of Western society, along with the Freemasons, the Trilateral Commission and the Jews-- I've got this great pamphlet by a John Birch Society splinter group that tells all about it. PM me your address and I'll send it to you-- it will rock your world.


    Funny that. Muslims say the BBC is part of a conspiracy, along with the Freemasons, Trilateral Commision and Jews to destroy Islam.

    Its funny how paranoia affects people.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #54 - October 22, 2009, 04:10 PM

    So why did the BBC feel the need to use a Muslim in a headscarf as their undercover reporter? Was it so they could categorize the antics of these thugs under the heading of "Racism and Islamophobia"?

    Maybe because a lot of Asian women are Muslims? Most Pakistani's, in this country at least, are Muslims and majority of asian racial slurs are typical of that e.g. 'paki'. These thugs pounce on the colour differences denoted by differences in race and then they run with it because non-white is 'foreign' and therefore 'bad'. It wouldn't have made much of a difference, I don't think, if the woman wasn't wearing a headscarf. The Muslim guy still got abuse without having Muslim tattooed across his forehead.
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #55 - October 22, 2009, 06:02 PM

    ^ That and when he was wearing the prayer cap outside, the kids were shouting out 'He's a Jew!' in a mocking tone.
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #56 - October 22, 2009, 06:24 PM

    Funny that. Muslims say the BBC is part of a conspiracy, along with the Freemasons, Trilateral Commision and Jews to destroy Islam.

    Its funny how paranoia affects people.


    What I think is hilarious is when the right-wing nutters in my country somehow declare Obama a godless Communist AND a crypto-Muslim.

    Paranoia and crazy conspiracy theories are the new black. Freud's hypothesis about how the more civilized society becomes the more neurotic it becomes is seeming quite prescient nowadays.

    fuck you
  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #57 - October 22, 2009, 11:12 PM


    OK - i have watched it and I'm speechless (a rare thing for me as you all know)

    Its a must watch for anyone who has not already seen it.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #58 - October 23, 2009, 04:31 AM

    I saw the abuse raised on Panorama as being more to do with race (e.g. taunts of 'paki' and 'Iraq's that way') than Islam. Sure the woman was called a 'raghead' and other things to that regard but to many people in this country, being asian is sometimes synonymous with being a Muslim. If a white Muslim man had moved into that area I do not think he would have got as much hassle as the undercover reporters got.


    It is because of the equating of one with the other.

    I think the question one needs to ask is whether there would be the same response of a white convert to Islam or an openly gay couple - is it racism or mere hatred of something that is different to what they perceive as 'normal'. If those two individuals were wearing western clothes - would the same thing have happened? two non-white people moved into an area wearing non-western clothes and behaving differently than the norm - you've got a huge area that can be canvased for the reasons why. Racism seems a simplistic and half baked reasoning for why it has happened.

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  • Re: Racism in Bristol: Reduced to a four-letter word
     Reply #59 - October 23, 2009, 04:37 AM

    What was non-western about the clothes the man was wearing?

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