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Re: Worst argument you ever heard .. thread
Reply #30 - November 13, 2009, 11:09 AM

I agree!

I can't compete with what's already been posted on this thread but one of the insanely ridiculous arguments I've heard from Muslim apologists Adam Deen and Hamza Andreas Tzortsis (who use the same script for their public speeches) is this one, directly lifted from a video of Adam Deen debating Andrew Copson of the BHA, which can be seen on you tube:
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On atheism, we are qualitatively no different from a rock?we are just accidental blocks of molecules that have come together randomly so when a fighter bomber bombs an entire community and a whole community is killed, all that?s really happened on an atheistic perspective is a realignment of these molecules. There wasn?t really a girl there. All that really happened was those molecules in that place realigned. That?s all that?s really happened from an atheist perspective.

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Reply #31 - November 13, 2009, 11:11 AM

I hate how it's always a given that atheists have no reason to value life, or see the world so callously.

I have always, ALWAYS been of the opinion that an atheists morals would be better because they are not enforced by anyone else.

Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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Reply #32 - November 13, 2009, 11:28 AM

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On atheism, we are qualitatively no different from a rock?we are just accidental blocks of molecules that have come together randomly so when a fighter bomber bombs an entire community and a whole community is killed, all that?s really happened on an atheistic perspective is a realignment of these molecules. There wasn?t really a girl there. All that really happened was those molecules in that place realigned. That?s all that?s really happened from an atheist perspective.

What a dick! These qualities and flaws are innate in us because we a part rational primates. If they are willing to make ethics and morals contingent upon God, then how about our flaws? No! I forgot, they have Iblees for that. Does this mean that if suddenly Adam Deen and Hamza Tortoise apostate, they will become indifferent to human suffering or human compassion. Ethics and morals have evolved with human society. Sometimes it seems as though, this argument is all they have to throw at atheists. I suppose they need to read Plato and Aristotle again.
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Reply #33 - November 15, 2009, 06:44 PM

"God is infinite" - Real infinity's do not exist.

"We have free will" - Free will is actually an illusion - RE: Determinism.

"Good and evil exist" - No, this is dualism there is no such thing as "good" an "evil" these are cultural archetypes.

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