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  • Marching against al-Muhajiroun
     OP - October 23, 2009, 04:18 PM

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/23/islam4uk-march-31-october

    Marching against al-Muhajiroun

    We are also organising a demonstration for British democracy during Islam4UK's march for sharia law on 31 October

    Shaaz Mahboob

    guardian.co.uk,    Friday 23 October 2009 11.31 BST

    I was a little shocked ? and delighted ? to find Inayat Bunglawala announcing that he is going to organise a counter-demonstration to Anjem Choudary's group Islam4UK, which is planning to call for the implementation of their version of sharia law at a rally on Saturday 31 October.

    My organisation, British Muslims for Secular Democracy (BMSD), had been working closely with likeminded British Muslim and non-Muslim democrats in planning a demonstration to coincide with Anjem's anti-democracy march and protest against freedom. Last week a Facebook group was also set up to float the idea and ignite people's interest. We had planned to make a formal announcement on Monday, but it makes sense, in the circumstances, to bring that announcement forward.

    Our counter-demonstration is based on our belief in, and commitment to, those liberal values that define the British state, including legal and constitutional equality for all, equal rights for women and minorities, and religious freedom, including the right to be free of faith. We are turning out to defend all of these virtues of a secular democracy that Islam4UK so despises and daydream of taking away from the British public.

    Indeed, the irony is that these are the values which allow Anjem Choudary to protest and promote his grossly illiberal message in the first place. But Choudary often abuses the tolerance our society affords him, and that's why we decided something had to be done. Many established Muslim groups have not taken enough practical steps to oppose groups such as al-Muhajiroun or Islam4UK. BMSD was launched last year and we have decided to take the initiative by spearheading this campaign to demonstrate our commitment to democracy and freedom.

    I am excited that Bunglawala is also joining the fight for liberalism. It seems obvious to me that he has been on a quite extraordinary personal journey in recent months. Last month, he wrote a brave article about gay rights and the appalling abuse homosexual Muslims sometimes receive. This is a remarkable and welcome development ? and a clear endorsement by Bunglawala of the values which define our country. However it is not clear whether such views are personal or reflect a broader change of attitudes within the Muslim Council of Britain, some of whose most senior members remain closely connected with, and openly support, theocratic parties in south Asia and the Middle East that oppose of the secular liberal democracy which we cherish.

    I would urge all British Muslims and non-Muslims to build on the brave steps we have already taken and condemn theocratic organisations everywhere who seek to segregate Muslims from mainstream society on the basis of twisted ideological interpretations and impose an intolerant way of life upon them, calling it sharia. This is the basis on which British Muslims for Secular Democracy was founded. We believe that a commitment to plural and liberal values is necessary everywhere around the world.

    Bunglawala has already taken some important steps ? and I hope he will take another by joining me in condemning all theocratic parties and their grotesquely illiberal views. The Muslim community in Britain is going through a period of rapid change. New voices are emerging all the time. Our message is simple: we are fed up with the old leadership that has betrayed us and everything we believe in.

    I make the same appeal to Bunglawala as I do to all of you ? Muslim or otherwise ? please come along on Saturday 31 and show your support by signing up here for secular democracy. We would love you to join us and raise a voice against all theocratic values and parties ? whoever they are.
  • Re: Marching against al-Muhajiroun
     Reply #1 - October 23, 2009, 04:53 PM


    All I can say is, its about time.

    Good for them, and good luck to them.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: Marching against al-Muhajiroun
     Reply #2 - October 23, 2009, 06:57 PM

    All the best to them. They need it.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Marching against al-Muhajiroun
     Reply #3 - October 24, 2009, 12:21 AM

    I wont be back in London till the 5th of November,dam! I would have gone to that like a shot. This is exactly what is needed. If secular Muslims  and supporters outnumber the madmen and women that would send out a powerful message to both the nutcases and the folk declaring 'all Muslims this... and  all Muslims that '   It is about time we heard from other voices , we had the spectacle of Choudray on national tv declaring himself a  Muslim Spokesperson , he speaks for no-one except his own self-aggrandizement. Speak out loud for us all you crazy secularists !   Afro Afro

    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: Marching against al-Muhajiroun
     Reply #4 - October 24, 2009, 12:35 AM

    Unfortunately for him he is but a lone voice in the wilderness where most of those who will turn up to protest will be non-Muslim. When you rely on non-Muslims to bulk up your numbers it shows that you're in the minority in your own community. There is wishful thinking and then there is being deluded - he is being deluded if he thinks that Islam equals what he wishes it to equal.

    The day when you can walk into any mosque at random and not be appalled by the racist, bigoted and intolerant views being held by those leading - then one can acknowledge things can and have changed.

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
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