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 Topic: The prophet never "hit" Aisha?

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  • The prophet never "hit" Aisha?
     OP - December 08, 2009, 12:30 PM

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    Salamu Alaikum

    "Struck" is a bad translation here. The word used is 'lahaza' , which could be translated as "Push" and at most "slap with an open palm" but not a hard, violent slap (and note translating it as "slap" is weaker and less probable). A correct translation would be:

    - He pushed me (lahadani) in the chest (fi sadri) with a push (lahdatan)which made me sore (awja'atni).

    It is very interesting to note that "pushing" of the Prophet does indeed convey meaning - usually to drive away evil influence and thought.

    - Amir ibn Raba and Sahl ibn Hunayf went out to bathe. Amir took off his woolen robe. He [Sahl] narrates: "I looked at him and I cast the evil eye on him. He went down into the water then I heard a noise coming from him. I called out to him three times but there was no answer. I went to call the Messenger of Allah who came on foot and waded his way in the water. Then he slapped/pushed his chest with his hand, saying: "O Allah! drive away from him its heat and its coolness and its harm." Then he rose up and said: "If one of you sees something that pleases him in his brother - whether in his person or property - let him invoke blessing for him, for the evil eye is a reality."

    (Tafsir ibn Kathir)

    Similarly, in a narration it states:

    - Ubbay said: There occurred in my mind a sort of denial which did not occur even during the Days of Ignorance. When the Messenger of Allah saw how I was affected, he slapped/pushed me on the chest. I broke into a sweat and felt as if I were looking at Allah in fear.

    (Sahih Muslim)

    Wallahu A'lam


    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1337245

    Not that it's justified, but apparently "hit" is too strong a word to use.

    "We were married by a Reform rabbi in Long Island. A very Reform rabbi. A Nazi."-- Woody Allen
  • Re: The prophet never "hit" Aisha?
     Reply #1 - December 08, 2009, 04:12 PM

    Cuz it's the prophet vs. 16 yr old girl or whatever.  In real life, if a man who doesn't get secret messages from invisible angels pushes his wife - not hits her, but pushes her or slaps her - we say "Get away from him."  It's called violence.  In real life.   Not on Planet Islam, though, where a Muslim can say - and believe - that "the prophet never raised a hand to a woman or child." 

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  • Re: The prophet never "hit" Aisha?
     Reply #2 - December 08, 2009, 05:23 PM

    I remember watching a video and one guy (I believe it was Ozzycda) he said how it was a light tap which the prophet did to everyone. It was a sign of attention or something like that. What that idiot doesn't seem to understand is that it caused her PAIN.

    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: The prophet never "hit" Aisha?
     Reply #3 - December 08, 2009, 05:33 PM

    Seriously, this Muhammad guy was a fucking jerk.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: The prophet never "hit" Aisha?
     Reply #4 - December 08, 2009, 08:08 PM

    I remember watching a video and one guy (I believe it was Ozzycda) he said how it was a light tap which the prophet did to everyone. It was a sign of attention or something like that. What that idiot doesn't seem to understand is that it caused her PAIN.


    I first heard this story in a halaqah where it was recounted by our great and respected teacher.  She *completely* left out the bit about him pushing Aishah or even "lightly tapping her" or anything like that.  I found it out a long time later when I actually read the entire hadith instead of just reading the first few lines and saying 'Oh yeah I know that story.' 

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