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  • So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     OP - December 20, 2009, 03:25 AM

    My mum has gone to Tanzania for a few weeks and told my extended family about my current views. Their reaction was pity. It was so sickening, my cousin told me what happened as she is a fellow atheist. They thought my apostasy was caused by my abuse as a child by my father. Yes I admit I was abused by my father, but seriously it wasn't that bad and the constant drilling of Islam into me SHOULD have kept me from becoming an atheist regardless. My atheism was down to pure logic. God, if he existed, is a total cunt for all the suffering in the world. The whole test argument didn't wash with me no matter how they said it or how long their beard was. Logic changed me. I find it insulting for them to insinuate my permanent life choice is a result of abuse. I wish I could have been there to shut them up. I emailed them just now asking them a simple question.

    as a mother, would you allow your 9 year old daughter (my sister) to go out, have a mutta and have sex. This is what Islam is all about, getting what you want providing its written in the book or big Mo did it. He was a paedophile and set a shining example to us all didn't he? Perfect human my arse.

    I'm just so annoyed. My cousin defended me and they told her to shut up and blamed it on the British culture. To add to this, my mother is an abusive bitch. She likes to blame it on my father who occasionally gave me a clip round the ear as a child but she tortures me to this day, emotionally. The latest episode was only a month ago just after my 17th birthday.

    I was out at my girlfriends one night celebrating her birthday in a REALLY bad storm. I didn't get any calls from my parents to come home because my phone had no signal because of the storm and because i had run out of battery AND because she lives in an area where signal is hit and miss. I didnt think for a second there would be a problem since i had been out to 3AM on certain days. My mother made the executive decision to lock me out.

    It was midnight, i had been ringing the disconnected bell for over an hour and it was the worst storm in 5 years. My jacket started letting water in and i was getting really cold real fast and i felt myself getting the first stages of hypothermia, so i thought it would be a good idea to try and sleep in the shed. I climbed over the fence but fell 10 ft onto my back, cracking a rib. I lay there screaming in agony for ages. I remember staring into the sky and crying. I had such an amazing time with my girlfriend and my parents managed to make me feel like topping myself. I was so cold i just couldn't think, so i got up and went to check a back door. At this point was feeling REALLY disorientated and delirious and I couldnt even talk. I put my hand through the cat flap and grabbed some back door keys that were on the floor and desprately opened the door only to be confronted by my mother and father screaming at me, telling me to piss off back outside. I felt so cold and I was so wet i just couldn't stand there. I stripped down to my boxers and literally hugged a radiator for 2 hours whilst my mother hurled insults at me. You disobedient bastard, you've been drinking (i didnt drink on that day incidently) you're a failure to the family etc etc etc All this time i couldnt talk or think. I crawled into bed. I had my laptop and phone taken the next day. I called up my uncle and showed my mum by bruises from falling and begged her to take me to the doctors. My uncle cried on the phone after hearing my story and told my mum what she had done was wrong. Suddenly she was apologetic. I wanted to punch her in the fucking face. I didn't, but I wanted to.

    Ever since I have been so pissed off with her and have had thoughts of suicide, the ONE thing that has got me though it has been my girlfriend who has helped me through episodes like this for nearly 5 years.

    Add onto this the arguments SHE starts with me, I just don't want to talk to her. One time when I was 14 she threw my ?500 guitar onto my desk and destroyed it :(. Things just get worse and worse, i do recognise that she is crazy and that its all to do with her upbringing but i'm just sick of everything.

    She's perfectly nice when she wants to be, takes me out to meals and cooks and gives me a roof over my head, but then she does things like this and then has the audacity to blame my apostasy on abuse, which she did.

    My apostasy was because of my intellect, my upbringing so far hasn't been the best, but my heretic family had me believing in this crap for years until I became a free thinker.

    I feel like this has been a totally pointless rant, but it has helped to vent Smiley
    I can't wait to move out in 11 months Cheesy

    Be yourself.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #1 - December 20, 2009, 03:54 AM

    Give it another thirty years, by then the whole extended family clan will be saying about the only guy still left muslim how he is only religious because he had been abused as a child...  Wink
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #2 - December 20, 2009, 07:23 AM

    That sounds really messed up what your mom has been doing. Hang in there, though. It's good that you at least have a girlfriend who understands and supports you.
     far away hug

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #3 - December 20, 2009, 07:30 AM

    Get your ass into a University, move away from home, get a part time job to pay your dues and say Au re-fucking-voir to your family.

    I feel you  far away hug

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #4 - December 20, 2009, 09:50 AM

    Give it another thirty years, by then the whole extended family clan will be saying about the only guy still left muslim how he is only religious because he had been abused as a child...  Wink


    You really believe that? That more and more people are leaving Islam? Or organized religion for that matter?
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #5 - December 20, 2009, 09:52 AM

    @Abbas

    I feel for you man. You're always welcome to tell us whats going in your life Smiley And yeah as soon as you can enroll in uni. Maybe also get a part time job now? That way you wont be home as much and have a reason for it.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #6 - December 20, 2009, 10:42 AM

    arrgghhh - that night must have been the worst night of your life

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  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #7 - December 20, 2009, 01:06 PM

    Your parents sound like real dickheads  wacko. How could they not open the door and help you when they heard your groans or saw that you were in pain? Makes no sense  finmad

    Regarding them thinking your atheism is because of you being abused... don't worry about that. My family, although I haven't officially said that I'm an ex-muslim, blame my non-religiousness to a variety of factors to, like being too influenced by australian culture, not having good friends as a kid, etc etc etc. Don't take it personally, let them have that bit of false comfort, they know deep down as well as you do that its nothing to do with your father abusing you. They're just using the argument to try to keep your cousins and other relatives from following in your footsteps.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #8 - December 20, 2009, 01:45 PM

    Parents will come up with any excuse to blame apostasy as they cant face the facts. Mine did the same and I'm sure many others have faced the same problem. I'm sorry for what your parents have put you through. At least it'll be over in 11 months. Where are you moving to? You going to uni?
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #9 - December 20, 2009, 02:12 PM

    Yeah, planning on moving out at 18 and then going to uni asap. I'm looking for a job other than my paper round and already pay my parents ?20 a week so it only seems logical to move out the day I can sign a legal document. I read your amazing story the other day Peru, how are things now? Are you at Uni? Did you find that you needed family help even whilst you were away?

    Be yourself.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #10 - December 20, 2009, 02:49 PM

    I'm in my final year at uni, my dad used to give me a lot of money during my first year of uni as I don't get much from my loan. I managed to budget better in my second year so he didn't need to support me as much. Also when I lost my faith I tried to wean myself off his support altogether as I felt really guilty. In my 3rd year I supported myself cause it was a placement year so I got paid. Atm my dad gives me ?75 a month, he offered me ?150 at first but I told him I don't need any money so he left it at 75.

    Uni costs so bloody much!

    Things are okish atm, they aren't as bright as it seemed when I finished my blog though. I told my dad about my apostasy and everything went downhill. You can read about what happened here- http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=3776.112
    Scroll to post 126

    I'm just pretending to be a muslim right now. I'm going to send my dad an email in a few months before uni ends telling him I'm an apostate for good and that I'm going to live away from home and stuff. I'm not saying it to his face again after what happened last time.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #11 - December 20, 2009, 03:08 PM

    I wish i could fast-forward my life 11 months so that I can move out of this hell hole.

    Be yourself.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #12 - December 20, 2009, 03:39 PM

    are your parents  Tanzanian abbas? i didn't know that was a muslim country
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #13 - December 20, 2009, 04:58 PM

    My mother was born in Tanzania, as far as i know it is a majority muslim country with its capital city called 'dar-e-salaam'. I'm not actually east african though, my roots go back to india mainly and some other obscure places in north africa.

    Be yourself.
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #14 - December 20, 2009, 05:02 PM

    Dar-e-salaam?  Roll Eyes. Here we have a capital called Islamabad   greddy2
  • Re: So my whole extended family knows about my apostasy
     Reply #15 - December 20, 2009, 05:08 PM

    I know you can't compare it to Pakistan, but a religious family is a religious family even if they live in Antarctica. I'm having such a depressing day, my mother turned around and told me that she has told nobody about my apostasy and i should keep quiet about it and not tell any family members. Thank god my cousin is educated and not brainwashed. For over 17 years I've been fed bullshit and everything they have done for me has been drowned out by the bad times they could have prevented. I feel like my life has been a lie up until recently. Religion was just another way in which my parents tortured me. I can't wait to break the cycle and treat my future family right.

    Be yourself.
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