The creeping Christianization of the Middle East

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The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
OP - December 23, 2009, 02:01 PM

Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi seems to think this is happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dkOR5pH1I

Shows that the extremist Islamists and the right-wing Christianists in the West are just a mirror image of each other. They argue the same way and basically help each other by creating something the other extreme can point to as justification for their own extremism.

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #1 - December 23, 2009, 03:24 PM

Sheikh Yusuf Qardawi's War on Christmas!!

Can't wait for O'Reilly to get a hold of this.

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #2 - December 23, 2009, 07:05 PM

Quote from: NineBerry on December 23, 2009, 02:01 PM
Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi seems to think this is happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dkOR5pH1I

He condemns bidaa while promoting bidaa (not celebrating eid al milad al mo is an innovation, LOL).

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #3 - December 23, 2009, 09:42 PM

You might be interested to note that he is far less concerned with "creeping Nationalism". He's been crusading against Christmas decorations, Valentine's Day celebrations, etc,, for several years now. He always uses the reasoning that in Islam ONLY the two Eids are to be celebrated according to the Sunnah. However, he hasn't spoken out on any of the National Day events here in Qatar last week, nor the millions of riyals spent to celebrate. I guess that is in part because he needs to maintain the citizenship that Qatar granted him, lect he have to return to live in Egypt.

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Reply #4 - December 23, 2009, 10:29 PM

Quote from: NineBerry on December 23, 2009, 02:01 PM
Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi seems to think this is happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dkOR5pH1I

Seriously! Aren't there more important subjects for them to preach about in their Friday khutbas than fecking xmas trees in shops?

Also goes to show what a hypocrite Al-Qaradhawi is in that he rants against the banning of building of mosques and minarets in Europe when the building of churches and temples is and has been banned in neighboring KSA for years.

Then he goes on to complain about Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Prize when there are still wars raging in so many Muslim countries, well Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi, I don't see YOU going out there and DOING anything about it!

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Reply #5 - December 23, 2009, 10:32 PM

Not only that, but while there is a purpose built structure now used as a church here in Qatar, it is not allowed to display a cross on the exterior.

As for the Peace prize, would he suggest Khaled Mishael and Mahmoud Abbass, instead?

The hypocrisy of some, knows no boundaries.

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #6 - December 23, 2009, 10:48 PM

Seriously, churches and synagogues are not allowed in Muslim countries? Or new ones at least? In any of the muslim countries? Is this due to The Charter of Umar?
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Reply #7 - December 23, 2009, 10:51 PM

There allowed in most, but depends on the country and the hidden impediments due to social hostility. Gulf states usually strictly control or ban the building of any other religion. Not sure about UAE though, that'd be weird given the number of Hindus and Christians there.

Qaradawi is apparently one of the emminent "moderate" and "mainstream" Islamic scholars of our age.

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Reply #8 - December 23, 2009, 11:03 PM

i fucken adore this guy, he takes a lot of credit for where i am now....seriously
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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #9 - December 23, 2009, 11:17 PM

Kuwait and Qatar have purpose built churches but only 1 in each country and they are not allowed to have any Christian iconography on their exterior. Saudi has none. I have heard that the Emirates have a church now, but haven't seen anything about where it is. Bahrain and Oman, I don't know about.

As for Hindu or Sikh temples, Most Khaleejis are adamant about having NO polytheists in the Arabian Peninsula. The problem is they can't wean themselves off of cheap Indian labor.

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #10 - December 23, 2009, 11:36 PM

Love the way his voice goes hysterical and squealing at certain parts of the rant

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #11 - December 23, 2009, 11:41 PM

Quote from: Joan of Arc on December 23, 2009, 11:17 PM
As for Hindu or Sikh temples, Most Khaleejis are adamant about having NO polytheists in the Arabian Peninsula. The problem is they can't wean themselves off of cheap Indian labor.

Sikhs are monotheists, but its a different kind of monotheism from the Abrahamics. They don't think non Sikhs are wrong or that they are inferior or will suffer in an afterlife simply because they are of a different religion. Its kind of like Bahaism - they believe that all religions are just different paths to the same God.

Many Hindus actually believe that the various Gods are just manifestations of different qualities and attributes the one overarching God known as Brahma, so you can say that Hindus believe in one God too.

Although having said that, I like polytheists precisely because they scare and perplex believing Muslims with their unashamed colourful iconography and manifold Godly representations.

They should just recruit from Bangladesh and Pakistan so they don't have a problem with that.

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Reply #12 - December 23, 2009, 11:59 PM

Yes, thanks for correcting me about Sikhs. And having studied Hinduism I am aware that there are varying views on the issue of "polytheism vs. monotheism".

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Reply #13 - December 24, 2009, 01:06 AM

Yeah, you could say that the "polytheism" is similar to the 99 names of Allah. Just different manifestations of the same divine power.
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Reply #14 - December 24, 2009, 01:36 AM

^^^ or like how God takes the form of the three dimensions through the Holy Trinity in Christianity

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Reply #15 - December 24, 2009, 07:10 AM

I used to think he was a 'moderate', now I wonder.

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Reply #16 - December 24, 2009, 07:25 AM

Quote from: Infidel on December 24, 2009, 07:10 AM

I used to think he was a 'moderate', now I wonder.

Not so moderate, he condones wife beating & female genital mutilation.

http://www.galha.org/briefing/qaradawi.html

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Re: The creeping Christianization of the Middle East
Reply #17 - December 24, 2009, 07:26 AM

Sorry to say this; but if Islam wasn't so much of a fucking miserable religion based on pain, suffering and lust for the grave - then Muslims wouldn't be looking out side the faith for something to bring a little joy into their lives.

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