Yep, but even over billions of years, this stuff occurring by plain chance seems too improbable.
Who cares if it happens in 10 Billion years or in 10 years. The important thing is we were able to replicate it in a lab and/or in a controlled environment. It is beautiful and grand.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the current explanation for the formation of the nervous system, circulatory system, the system of sexual reproduction, feeding of babies from the mother's milk in mammals, etc is that these things were developed over hundreds of millions of years, over thousands of random mutations, each one which improved the systems just a bit more, but each mutation was random and happened just by chance.
And when you see the sequence the eyes and the ears followed to develop into more complex organs, the steps are quite beautiful and simple and always following local rules. No blueprints.
There has to be another explanation for why those mutations followed such a seemingly intelligent/self-improvising course, they can't just be random imo. You don't get so perfect and complex through mere chance alone.
We did not locate another explanation. Either you come up with the experiment, to prove your point, either your ideas, which are quite logical actually, and make sense, but are wrong.
One important observation to make about that experiment is that apart from that one mutation all 12 populations of the bacteria developed seemingly the same mutations.
Yes. At what point does this prove intelligent mutation? The mutations had already occured in the specie in the past. Mutations to control the size of the bacteria. All that was left was variation/adaptation. They all adapted in a very predictable pattern.
If they were all random, I would think that there'd be several changes in the mutations each population developed over 20,000 generations if the mutations were indeed random, no?
The mutation is random, natural selection is not random. When you apply the same Selection mechanism on the same specie, the mutations, although random, should still all follow the same pattern. This is what the theory of evolution predicts and this is what happened.
We can predict a size increase, we can predict that the color of the liver will not change color except for One in a billion of billions of chances. And even if a creature changes the color of its liver, and i am sure it happened, such a change does not propagate to the rest of the specie.
So all mutations are mostly similar, and then suddenly one beneficial mutation occurs in one population.
The mutation for size occured in the specie long before that experiment started. This e-coli bacteria already knew how to modify its size, up to a certain size. It never learned how to grow past that size.
I would say this neither proves, nor disproves the influence of a higher power over the mutations. It can be taken as a sign of either depending on the view point you take.
The ability to eat citrate for one colony and not the others. What will the other colonies eventually develop? the Ability to eat citrate? or will it be some other chemical in the broth? What does the intelligent mutation predict?
Unless there is evidence to prove that there is no influence of a higher power over the mutations, I think its unscientific to close your mind to that possibility.
This is not the religion class. You can not stand at the pulpit and keep preaching about a good idea or another. There is no invisible gods in here. If you have an idea, than prove it. If you do not have the proof, then please please with much love and respect, shut the fvck up.
I'm not one to follow the herd by any means though, just the fact that the experts believe something isn't enough for me to not pay attention to what my mind is telling me, i.e its too improbable for all the complex systems of life to have been created through chance alone.
There exists a herd that had the same thought you do. A Russian herd that destroyed crops in Russia for 20yrs. Shot and imprisoned a lot of scientists. And spent Millions on experiment trying to prove exactly what you believe in. Considering 44% of americans think earth is 10,000 years old, believe me, there is another herd in America.
Topic: Some questions about evolution