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  • Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     OP - January 05, 2010, 12:50 AM
    It makes me sad when all people see are the good deeds. Satan will do good deeds all day long, as long as he can keep more people going to hell. And anyone that stays in Freemasonry is going to hell because it is Satan-worship. Albert Pike admitted it in his Book, "morals and Dogma....

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #1 - January 05, 2010, 12:50 AM
    WHAT ABOUT THE JEWS???
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #2 - January 05, 2010, 12:53 AM
    Jewish is a nationality. What is one nationality over another. Do you mean religious Jews?
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #3 - January 05, 2010, 12:58 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on January 05, 2010, 12:53 AM
    Jewish is a nationality.

    Do they have it stamped on their passports then?  What nation is that, Jewland?
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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #4 - January 05, 2010, 01:02 AM
    No....and neither should they. A nationality is a nationality. It has nothing to do with where a person lives.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #5 - January 05, 2010, 01:07 AM
    Are Jewish people a nationality or an ethnicity?
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #6 - January 05, 2010, 01:08 AM
    Aren't they the same thing?
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #7 - January 05, 2010, 01:12 AM

    I don't know - I think they're different.

    Its quite complicated.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #8 - January 05, 2010, 01:17 AM
    Are you sure? I think they are the same thing.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #9 - January 05, 2010, 01:18 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on January 05, 2010, 01:02 AM
    No....and neither should they. A nationality is a nationality. It has nothing to do with where a person lives.

    Thats a very principled stance, are you referring to the rights as documentated by UN treaty in Article 7401 Rights of Internationally Domiciled Peoples?
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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #10 - January 05, 2010, 01:19 AM
    Isn't it a bit unfair if God gets all the worship and Satan gets none? I mean, I think it would be quite fair and nice and in the spirit of brotherhood, if God wouldn't mind Satan getting a bit of worship as well.



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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #11 - January 05, 2010, 01:25 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 05, 2010, 01:18 AM
    Thats a very principled stance, are you referring to the rights as documentated by UN treaty in Article 7401 Rights of Internationally Domiciled Peoples?


    I wasn't thinking of that specifically.....but I believe all persons are born with certain unalienable rights, and this would be one of them.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #12 - January 05, 2010, 01:27 AM
    I think the Jewish experience is quite unique because of the long historical experience of diaspora, and its also complicated by the issue of Israel. I think we should ignore Israel and zionism.

    The way I think it might be different is this. 'Nation' suggests a degree of politicised identity in a diaspora. With a large amount of delineating boundaries and political activism. We think of the Ummah "nation" and all of the resonances that has. But ethnicity seems to be me to be something more informal, or tacit. Less politicised, less policed in terms of the boundaries constructed around it.

    I don't know if that makes sense. Just a kind of slight difference I see. Maybe it is just semantics.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #13 - January 05, 2010, 01:28 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on January 05, 2010, 01:08 AM
    Aren't they the same thing?


    There is no such thing as a Jewish ethnicity.  There is a Jewish culture and heritage.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #14 - January 05, 2010, 01:29 AM
    NineBerry,

    Satan is worshipped.....alot. Look at how many Freemasons there are.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #15 - January 05, 2010, 01:30 AM
    Quote from: billy on January 05, 2010, 01:27 AM
    I think the Jewish experience is quite unique because of the long historical experience of diaspora, and its also complicated by the issue of Israel. I think we should ignore Israel and zionism.

    The way I think it might be different is this. 'Nation' suggests a degree of politicised identity in a diaspora. With a large amount of delineating boundaries and political activism. We think of the Ummah "nation" and all of the resonances that has. But ethnicity seems to be me to be something more informal, or tacit. Less politicised, less policed in terms of the boundaries constructed around it.

    I don't know if that makes sense. Just a kind of slight difference I see. Maybe it is just semantics.




    No Israel should not be ignored.  There were actually other Jewish kingdoms and states before Israel.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #16 - January 05, 2010, 01:33 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on January 05, 2010, 01:29 AM
    NineBerry,

    Satan is worshipped.....alot. Look at how many Freemasons there are.


    Freemasons are not devil worshipers.  Many of the founding fathers of the USA were Freemasons.  The principles of their organisation were quite admirable, they were the pioneers of secularism and rational thought during a time of religious ignorance in Europe.  The US constitution is based on their values.  It is little wonder that the Church for one did not like them and tried to brand them as devil worshipers.   
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #17 - January 05, 2010, 01:37 AM
    Quote from: billy on January 05, 2010, 01:27 AM
    I think the Jewish experience is quite unique because of the long historical experience of diaspora, and its also complicated by the issue of Israel. I think we should ignore Israel and zionism.

    The way I think it might be different is this. 'Nation' suggests a degree of politicised identity in a diaspora. With a large amount of delineating boundaries and political activism. We think of the Ummah "nation" and all of the resonances that has. But ethnicity seems to be me to be something more informal, or tacit. Less politicised, less policed in terms of the boundaries constructed around it.

    I don't know if that makes sense. Just a kind of slight difference I see. Maybe it is just semantics.




    It makes sense, though I believe it has come to take on political meaning....or maybe it always has. I hadn't thought of it that way. "Nationality" has always meant to me one's ancestry.

    But by your definition, I mean "ethnicity".
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #18 - January 05, 2010, 01:38 AM
    Freemasonry is not a religion. True they do require all their members to believe in a supreme being, so yes they do discriminate based on belief and that is wrong, but they do have Christian, Jew and Muslim members. They have done a lot of charitable work and we cannot overlook that just because they are unfair to atheists.
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #19 - January 05, 2010, 01:38 AM
    Quote from: ras111 on January 05, 2010, 01:30 AM
    No Israel should not be ignored.  There were actually other Jewish kingdoms and states before Israel.


    I meant Israel should be ignored for the sake of defining what 'nation' and 'ethnicity' mean in the diaspora.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #20 - January 05, 2010, 02:01 AM
    Freemasons are pussies. Let's do some real devil worship here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0Xs-xHCjE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5X1uj34Ds

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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #21 - January 05, 2010, 02:04 AM
    Quote from: billy on January 05, 2010, 01:38 AM
    I meant Israel should be ignored for the sake of defining what 'nation' and 'ethnicity' mean in the diaspora.



    Its still a bit incorrect.  If we were to take some academic's definitions, there is no such thing as a Jewish nation.  There is Jewish culture and faith, which is also divided.  If you are going to talk about a nation then you have to talk about Israel.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #22 - January 05, 2010, 02:16 AM
    Quote from: Submissive Bob on January 05, 2010, 01:38 AM
    Freemasonry is not a religion. True they do require all their members to believe in a supreme being, so yes they do discriminate based on belief and that is wrong, but they do have Christian, Jew and Muslim members. They have done a lot of charitable work and we cannot overlook that just because they are unfair to atheists.


    I don't think that applies to all lodges, does it?  I personally see Freemasonry as some sort of old boy's club.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #23 - January 05, 2010, 02:24 AM
    Quote from: ras111 on January 05, 2010, 02:04 AM

    Its still a bit incorrect.  If we were to take some academic's definitions, there is no such thing as a Jewish nation.  There is Jewish culture and faith, which is also divided.  If you are going to talk about a nation then you have to talk about Israel.


    No. I wanted to make a point about the difference between self-created notions of 'nation' and 'ethnicity' in a diaspora community - by way of the self-definition of people and ways that people identify collectively. That's why I didn't want to make reference to the state of Israel whilst discussing Jewish people. Because I only wanted to discuss the issue of collective consciousness in a diaspora. I also made my point by contrasting the idea of an Ummah 'nation' and an affiliation of people that might loosely be described as ethnicity.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #24 - January 05, 2010, 02:33 AM
    As I said, freemasons are pussies. Dilettantes. Amateurs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cqKafnUrk

    @Shaneequa Do you belief, Satan actually exists as a person?
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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #25 - January 05, 2010, 03:15 AM
    You mean I have to listen to techno in hell?
    noooooooooooo!!! Im more of a traditionalist.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #26 - January 05, 2010, 03:16 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on January 05, 2010, 12:53 AM
    Jewish is a nationality. What is one nationality over another. Do you mean religious Jews?


    I herd they rule the world!!
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #27 - January 05, 2010, 03:18 AM
    Here's a good book for you to lern about their ways:

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #28 - January 05, 2010, 03:24 AM
    Quote from: Submissive Bob on January 05, 2010, 01:38 AM
    Freemasonry is not a religion. True they do require all their members to believe in a supreme being, so yes they do discriminate based on belief and that is wrong, but they do have Christian, Jew and Muslim members. They have done a lot of charitable work and we cannot overlook that just because they are unfair to atheists.


    It's true that they have many charities, but that doesn't mean they're not an occult. Cults have charities. I bet even satanists have charities, as in The Church of Satan. Did you know the Church of Satan is a 502(c)3 organization?

    It's true Freemasons have Christians, Jews and Muslims....but as a mason graduates through the degrees, more is revealed to him about the nature of their deities.

    I do no know if they're unfair to atheists more than they're unfair to anyone else. If a group will not have me on the basis of my beliefs, I think that is fair enough. To a Freemason, we are the profane. That's fine by me. I do not care what crypto-satanists think of me.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #29 - January 05, 2010, 03:28 AM
    NineBerry,

    Quote
    @Shaneequa Do you belief, Satan actually exists as a person?


    Yes. I know he does.
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