Muslims Scholars sound so polite....or is it something else?

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Muslims Scholars sound so polite....or is it something else?
OP - January 10, 2010, 05:57 AM

Whenever I go to an 'Ask the Imam' or an 'Ask the Muslim Scholar' site, I see the Imam or scholar start his answer with something like this:

"Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner! Thank you very much for your good question that reflects a true search for knowledge. May Allah increase you in knowledge and grant you success in this world and in the afterlife."

That's why I need to ask an ex-Muslim: Do imams speak this way? When an imam spoke to you that way, what did it make you think of him?
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Reply #1 - January 10, 2010, 06:39 AM

I noticed this as well. Not only one site here and there, but they always make a dua before answering a question. Whats more annoying is when they make a fucking 8 minute dua before starting a debate. I mean nobody gives a shit about the dua lol, just start the debate

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Reply #2 - January 10, 2010, 07:53 AM

If it were not a dua, and if I didn't know anything, it would feel like the imam were wishing me a thousand good mornings and for a bird of paradise to smile upon me.
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Reply #3 - January 10, 2010, 08:06 AM

Adhab

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Reply #4 - January 10, 2010, 09:22 AM

I had to look that up:


Adhab
Meaning:
`adhab means punishment or torture.
True Form:    عذاب
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Reply #5 - January 10, 2010, 12:45 PM

Huh? adhab means manners to me, being mindful of your manners, I've never known it to be torture or a form of punishment.

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Reply #6 - January 10, 2010, 01:23 PM

Adab is manners. Could also mean literature.
Adhab is punishment. Though I think a more accurate spelling would be 'Athab as in Athan.

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Reply #7 - January 10, 2010, 07:21 PM

Quote from: Shaneequa on January 10, 2010, 05:57 AM
Whenever I go to an 'Ask the Imam' or an 'Ask the Muslim Scholar' site, I see the Imam or scholar start his answer with something like this:

"Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner! Thank you very much for your good question that reflects a true search for knowledge. May Allah increase you in knowledge and grant you success in this world and in the afterlife."

That's why I need to ask an ex-Muslim: Do imams speak this way? When an imam spoke to you that way, what did it make you think of him?

There's a difference in spoken and written adab (manners). The written adabs of things like this are very flowery and excessive. I have never heard, in person, a shaykh say 'Oh, why thank you for asking this. May allah increase you!' when being asked a question. But they do usually say bismillah, etc. Or they may start a verbal session with it and then just answer the questions each time without the formulas. Most of them are notoriously cranky and moody. I would probably laugh if I ever sat in a session and the shaykh was all 'Yes! Thank you for this question! May you be granted success! Khayr!'

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Reply #8 - January 10, 2010, 07:44 PM

Quote from: Shaneequa on January 10, 2010, 09:22 AM
I had to look that up:


Adhab
Meaning:
`adhab means punishment or torture.
True Form:    عذاب

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adab_%28behavior%29

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Reply #9 - January 10, 2010, 10:06 PM

Quote from: Shaneequa on January 10, 2010, 05:57 AM
Whenever I go to an 'Ask the Imam' or an 'Ask the Muslim Scholar' site, I see the Imam or scholar start his answer with something like this:

"Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner! Thank you very much for your good question that reflects a true search for knowledge. May Allah increase you in knowledge and grant you success in this world and in the afterlife."

That's why I need to ask an ex-Muslim: Do imams speak this way? When an imam spoke to you that way, what did it make you think of him?

made me think he was false or a human robot on a different spiritual plane to me

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Reply #10 - January 10, 2010, 10:11 PM

Quote from: Manat on January 10, 2010, 07:21 PM
There's a difference in spoken and written adab (manners). The written adabs of things like this are very flowery and excessive. I have never heard, in person, a shaykh say 'Oh, why thank you for asking this. May allah increase you!' when being asked a question. But they do usually say bismillah, etc. Or they may start a verbal session with it and then just answer the questions each time without the formulas. Most of them are notoriously cranky and moody. I would probably laugh if I ever sat in a session and the shaykh was all 'Yes! Thank you for this question! May you be granted success! Khayr!'

Oh. I was wondering if they were like this in person. When I read these adabs, it almost feels like the shaykh is handing his readers a cup of tea and a scone.
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