Re: Quran and women
Reply #9 - January 20, 2010, 12:55 PM
I can agree to its weird and sexist even to using women for advertimsents, we all know it will get more looks, but im not sure they are being used as objects, i dont think its that easy to say really, she is being objectified.. since its an ad, and the image of the women is used to sell products, or the beauty rather, but the women herself? she is allowed the same freedsoms as a man, there is still sexism sure, wages not being equal, or sexist enviroments, but i think the west has come a long way in treating women better, and hopefully one day it will be more or less equal, but you cant really compare the west, or this part of the west to the muslim world, or traditional islam and its treatment of women
I can agree that some porn is mainly about the men, they get off at the women, and we get off at the women, or strip clubs perhaps, or brothels in Amsterdam for example, but they are free to do this, and they do it to get paid, it?s a job, you can object to that, but they don?t have to if they don?t want to, its not like some east European girl that has to pay off a ?debt? as a prostitute, that?s immoral on every level
What im trying to say that honestly, its not black and white, and sure arab women will say well hey the income I get I don?t need to share with my husband, that?s my money, since he is the maintainer, but the husband can effectively say you don?t work, you take care of the household, its funny how in todays world muslims will say well you need a double income to pay bills, it?s a necessity, but how come the quran didn?t come up with this?
And honestly the first time I heard an arab girl say that her money is her money, and the money her husband makes is our money I got a bit pissed off, I thought you are meant to share in a relationship, and this relationship is not really fair.. but then again im thinking from my own point of view?
EDIT:
Its not really etched in stone this mentality that advertisements is sexually objectifying women. I mean if we skip religion, and remove these ancients laws then we have a clean slate, out of that rational discussion and point of views can be made.. doesnt really mean any of them is correct but that there can be various point of views, some better, some worse, but in this case it becomes pretty subjective, but religion has one meaning, and you need to pigeonhole everything around that one meaning,
Topic: Quran and women