Sorry skynightblaze, I'm not interested in refuting anything you say. I already know your claim that most Muslims lie/use Taqiyya is just the paranoid bullshit that bigots, racists, Christian fundies and all types of right-wing nutjobs love to spread to justify their hatred towards the majority of Muslims.
Hassan, is that your opinion?
I am 50 years old Skynightblaze and 48 years of that I spent as a Muslim. And not just as an ordinary Muslim but one who studied and practiced my faith devoutly and worked amongst the Muslim community and spent 15 years as a school teacher at an Islamic School.
You'd have thought that I would be aware of what you say.
Maybe SNB has different experience than yours; experiences don't matter. And age does not prove anything.
Yet - quite the contrary - I know that Taqiyya is a concept that is not widely known amongst Muslims (at least it wasn't untill all the bigots started ranting about it.) In all my years I only heard it used a few times, (and that was in reference to Shi'a Muslims.)
To lie one does not need to know the concept of taqiyya.
I also know that most Muslims do not lie about their religion. I suspect that what you consider lying is just a Muslim giving their own (and sincerely believed) opinion which doesn't fit with your fixed idea of what Islam is.
I think SNB is talking of a situation which arises AFTER they have been shown the evidence contrary to their beliefs/opinions/impressions.
If your claim is true then I would definitely know it was true - bearing in mind my experience and knowledge of Islam.
Sorry, Hassan, but do you think personal opinions and experiences matter in refutation when a claim is made and the claimant is providing evidence for his claim?
The knowledgeable scholars of Islam do not tire of saying that "Islam is a religion of peace". The sincerity, or otherwise, of their belief does not take away the fact that Islam teaches hatred towards non Muslims. The sincerity of Muslims' belief that Muhammad was the best man ever to walk on the earth, or that he is a perfect example for mankind, does not change the fact that he was an evil man by any standards.
So am I also practicing Taqiyya?
Why not refute what SNB is bringing on the table? Why not conduct the little experiment he has suggested? Why not try to prove that he is mistaken?
SNB is making the claim that Islam promotes terrorism. Naturally most of the Muslims will not agree with his claim. He is prepared to provide evidence from the Islamic sources, and he is saying that if even after being shown valid evidence if a Muslim continues to deny his claim, then he is practicing taqiya. Would it be ok for you if he claimed that most of the Muslims are deluded, and would keep clinging to their delusions, instead of practicing taqiyya?
Topic: My reply to skynightblaze