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  • The nun analogy
     OP - February 03, 2010, 12:01 PM
    I was watching Zakir Naik on Peace TV the other day and he was talking about "double standards"! Anyway, he mentioned the same tired old "nun" analogy again.

    Isn't the nun analogy so ridiculously stupid?!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #1 - February 03, 2010, 12:04 PM
    Insanely, Islamists consider women to be vaginas and child-bearers/cooks. Nothing more

    Nuns are the polar opposite, Nuns are independent from the world and worldly bondage (marriage) and are completely spiritual in nature rather than just being physical vessals.

    Anyway, there are about 800 million Muslim women and less than a million nuns, so it doesn't work.
    I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #2 - February 03, 2010, 12:05 PM
    Remind me of it again, I know I know it, I just can't remember it.  015
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #3 - February 03, 2010, 12:07 PM
    "A Muslim women wears a hijab and covers up, and they say that she is oppressed. A Christian nun dresses the same, and she is a pious woman. Is that not a double standard?!"

    Of course it isn't! A nun chooses to go into that order. Secondly, it is a uniform; nobody would say that a nun is a whore if she doesn't dress like that.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #4 - February 03, 2010, 12:11 PM
    It is a great trick to use though.  For awhile, as a young teen it baffled me for sure.  So if it works, and it does, they will continue to use it.

    Along with the diamond one, always a good one to use on the young and impressionable.

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #5 - February 03, 2010, 12:14 PM
    The diamond one?
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #6 - February 03, 2010, 12:15 PM
    Do nuns have to dress like that? Or is it just an option?
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #7 - February 03, 2010, 12:16 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on February 03, 2010, 12:14 PM
    The diamond one?


    You know, the one about why virginity is precious, because just the other most precious thing in the world, diamonds, are deep deep down and need to be mined out with hard work, so to should the virginity, be hard work to get to.
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #8 - February 03, 2010, 12:22 PM
    Logic 101 should be mandatory for every person on earth, its pathetic that people can be swayed by arguments like this.
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    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #9 - February 03, 2010, 12:22 PM
    Lol, that is even stupider than the nun analogy. When you said "diamond", I thought you meant the one about why a woman has to be covered up is because "if you had a precious diamond, you would want it to be covered up and noone else to see it apart from you" - another stupid analogy.

    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on February 03, 2010, 12:15 PM
    Do nuns have to dress like that? Or is it just an option?


    They do have to dress like that but it is a uniform of the specific order.
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #10 - February 03, 2010, 12:23 PM
    I've heard another poor analogy for the hijab

    "What's the point of having a beautiful house if you don't have a roof?"

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
    I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #11 - February 03, 2010, 12:25 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on February 03, 2010, 12:22 PM
    Lol, that is even stupider than the nun analogy. When you said "diamond", I thought you meant the one about why a woman has to be covered up is because "if you had a precious diamond, you would want it to be covered up and noone else to see it apart from you" - another stupid analogy.



    Yeah, I've heard it that way too.  Stupid, maybe, but it works on many.  I've seen it working on white female converts.   yes
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #12 - February 03, 2010, 12:52 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on February 03, 2010, 12:16 PM
    You know, the one about why virginity is precious, because just the other most precious thing in the world, diamonds, are deep deep down and need to be mined out with hard work, so to should the virginity, be hard work to get to.

    I suppose this assumes that there is something inherently precious about virginity?

    Why do people make this assumption?

    Personally as far as sex is concerned I would prefer a fire-breathing whore over a virgin (especially in heaven).
  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #13 - February 03, 2010, 01:12 PM
    Quote from: Johnmuslim on February 03, 2010, 12:23 PM
    I've heard another poor analogy for the hijab

    "What's the point of having a beautiful house if you don't have a roof?"

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #14 - February 03, 2010, 01:14 PM
    Quote from: z10 on February 03, 2010, 12:22 PM
    Logic 101 should be mandatory for every person on earth, its pathetic that people can be swayed by arguments like this.


    Logic 101

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    B. Therefore I iz smart.

    C. I iz smart

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #15 - February 03, 2010, 03:56 PM
    Quote from: Johnmuslim on February 03, 2010, 12:23 PM
    "What's the point of having a beautiful house if you don't have a roof?"

    Allah builds houses without roofs? Cheesy
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #16 - February 03, 2010, 04:16 PM
    Quote from: Johnmuslim on February 03, 2010, 12:23 PM
    I've heard another poor analogy for the hijab

    "What's the point of having a beautiful house if you don't have a roof?"

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


    LOL

    U 4 real dawg?

    Besides, thats actually a more of a justification for wearing a nice hat. Hijab would be like building a nice house and then covering with giant ugly black tarp.
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #17 - February 03, 2010, 04:21 PM
    Spot the difference

    a nun



    a niqabi



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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #18 - February 03, 2010, 04:40 PM
    I'm too busy staring at that girls awesome top in pic 2.  That would be wicked for my tattoo in the summer.  dance

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #19 - February 03, 2010, 04:53 PM
    Isn't bein a nun a very specific calling anyways? Like they are part of some order and live in a convent right? How is that remotely comparable to rank-and-file imposition of hijab on normal muslims. Its not like there are any normal christians that are required to dress like a nun.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #20 - February 03, 2010, 05:25 PM
    Well the "uniform" that some nuns and monks have is generally worn whilst at the convent, and can be worn outside, but the local order near me the nuns wear normal clothes when out in the town.
  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #21 - February 03, 2010, 06:01 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQkKvC_sM0
  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #22 - February 03, 2010, 07:23 PM
    Ok well first of all, nuns of the modern age, not all of them have to cover from face to toe like these islamists claim.
    They were allowed to show their face and hands which the islamists don't approve of for the women in Islam.

    Secondly, many reforms have been made in churches where nuns dont even wear scarfs, they just cover their body.

    Thirdly, this idea of modesty if they cover their body like a potato sack is just ridiculous. What about wearing clothes that
    weren't scandalous and revealing instead of dressing up darth vader.
  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #23 - February 03, 2010, 07:46 PM
    Quote from: Aa on February 03, 2010, 06:01 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQkKvC_sM0


    Wow!  That's actually pretty cool!  Doing all of that in a chador is a bit OTT tho'.  Wouldn't a manteau do just as well and be less cumbersome?
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #24 - February 03, 2010, 11:22 PM
     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy gotta love these poor brainwashed women.

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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #25 - February 03, 2010, 11:26 PM
    I think Berbs is the only one that went all the way.  She still goes all the way, but in a slightly different way now Wink
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  • Re: The nun analogy
     Reply #26 - February 03, 2010, 11:39 PM
    I think there were others aside from Berbs, cant remember who though
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