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 Topic: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!

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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #30 - February 21, 2010, 11:19 AM
    Quote from: Soren on February 21, 2010, 11:01 AM
    So it's the hair which is the cause of lying. That's basicly what you are saying. What about bald ones?




    You missed the word "Frontal lobe"
    Some info for you to read Smiley  bunny
    remove the spaces
    htt p:// en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #31 - February 21, 2010, 11:39 AM
    Quote from: xtr00 on February 21, 2010, 11:19 AM
    You missed the word "Frontal lobe"
    Some info for you to read Smiley  bunny
    remove the spaces
    htt p:// en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Frontal_lobe


    Wow you are using one translation that will relate to the front lobe because it related to the forehead. Just wow.

    One. There are several parts of the brain that light up when you lie.

    Two. Forehead does not equate frontal lobe. It should then be frontal lobe and not forehead.

    Three. It can be translated as forelock as well. As in hair.

    Arthur John Arberry
    (15) No indeed; surely, if he gives not over, We shall seize him by the forelock,

    Arthur John Arberry
    (16) a lying, sinful forelock.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #32 - February 21, 2010, 11:40 AM
    Dirty, evil, sinning forelocks!!!


  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #33 - February 21, 2010, 11:49 AM
    guys, please be nice, at a least for a little while, to xtr00 and iffo... they're both from FFI.
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #34 - February 21, 2010, 05:15 PM
    guys, please be nice to me too, I am from FFI too. Cheesy
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #35 - February 21, 2010, 05:27 PM
    What is FFI?
    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #36 - February 21, 2010, 05:32 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on February 21, 2010, 05:15 PM
    guys, please be nice to me too, I am from FFI too. Cheesy


    Don't need to tell that, your name gives that away.
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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #37 - February 21, 2010, 06:13 PM
    Quote from: NineBerry on February 21, 2010, 05:32 PM
    Don't need to tell that, your name gives that away.


    But my name contains neither an "F" nor an "I". How did you know simply by looking at my name?
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #38 - February 21, 2010, 06:30 PM
    Neither the Christians nor the Muslims can go beyond six thousand years for the age of the universe.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #39 - February 21, 2010, 06:32 PM
    Quote from: DigDeep on February 21, 2010, 05:27 PM
    What is FFI?


    It is http://www.faithfreedom.org (Faith Freedom International).
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #40 - February 21, 2010, 06:35 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on February 21, 2010, 06:30 PM
    Neither the Christians nor the Muslims can go beyond six thousand years for the age of the universe.


    No Islam has nothing to do with 6000 years universe age, that's all your bible.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #41 - February 21, 2010, 06:38 PM
    @ iffo

    charles is an atheist.
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #42 - February 21, 2010, 06:44 PM
    Quote from: debunker on February 21, 2010, 06:38 PM
    @ iffo

    charles is an atheist.


    To clarify further, I don't know who I am. Sometimes I think I am an atheist, and at other times I think I am a Pantheist Smiley

    Quote from: iffo on February 21, 2010, 06:35 PM
    No Islam has nothing to do with 6000 years universe age, that's all your bible.


    I know. But this thread probably claims that as per the Quran, the universe is younger than even six thousand years.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #43 - February 21, 2010, 07:04 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on February 21, 2010, 06:13 PM
    But my name contains neither an "F" nor an "I". How did you know simply by looking at my name?


    It contains the idea that "islam is about to conquer Europe as it has tried before and was only stopped by Charles Martel". Frankly, I wouldn't think of naming myself after some warlord that had no qualms to mass-slaughter people simply because they wouldn't accept his rule or convert to christianity.

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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #44 - February 21, 2010, 07:24 PM
    Charlemagne?
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #45 - February 21, 2010, 07:26 PM
    Quote from: NineBerry on February 21, 2010, 07:04 PM
    It contains the idea that "islam is about to conquer Europe as it has tried before and was only stopped by Charles Martel". Frankly, I wouldn't think of naming myself after some warlord that had no qualms to mass-slaughter people simply because they wouldn't accept his rule or convert to christianity.



    Thanks for enlightening me. But do you really think that all the CharlesMartels currently roaming on the internet belong to FFI? I chose this nick because I like to think (pardon my grandiose delusions) that I am trying to stop Islam, and not because the historical Charles Martel forced people to convert to Christianity; I am not aware of that history.

     
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #46 - February 21, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on February 21, 2010, 07:24 PM
    Charlemagne?


    Charles Martel was his grandfather. They both liked slaying pagan infidels.
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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #47 - February 21, 2010, 07:42 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on February 21, 2010, 07:26 PM
    But do you really think that all the CharlesMartels currently roaming on the internet belong to FFI?


    Or similar sites

    Quote from: charlesmartel on February 21, 2010, 07:26 PM
    I chose this nick because I like to think (pardon my grandiose delusions) that I am trying to stop Islam, and not because the historical Charles Martel forced people to convert to Christianity; I am not aware of that history.


    Yeah, that's the problem with you guys. You are not aware of a lot of stuff.
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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #48 - February 21, 2010, 07:52 PM
    Quote from: NineBerry on February 21, 2010, 07:42 PM
    Or similar sites


    Had you added this bit to your earlier post, none of us needed to waste time.

    Quote from: NineBerry on February 21, 2010, 07:42 PM
    Yeah, that's the problem with you guys. You are not aware of a lot of stuff.


    "You guys"? Hmmm...I didn't realize that YOU GUYS were aware of everything.

    By the way, do you have some kind of grudge against FFI? Just curious.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #49 - February 21, 2010, 08:50 PM
    Quote from: charlesmartel on February 21, 2010, 07:52 PM
    By the way, do you have some kind of grudge against FFI? Just curious.


    Or similar sites
    bleed for me...kill for me...die for me
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #50 - February 21, 2010, 10:10 PM
    Quote from: NineBerry on February 21, 2010, 07:04 PM
    It contains the idea that "islam is about to conquer Europe as it has tried before and was only stopped by Charles Martel". Frankly, I wouldn't think of naming myself after some warlord that had no qualms to mass-slaughter people simply because they wouldn't accept his rule or convert to christianity.


    Quote
    Charles Martel (Latin: Carolus Martellus) (ca. 688 – 22 October 741),[1][2][3][4][5] called Charles the Hammer, was a Frankish military and political leader, who served as Mayor of the Palace under the Merovingian kings and ruled de facto during an interregnum (737–43) at the end of his life, using the title Duke and Prince of the Franks. In 739 he was offered the title of Consul by the Pope, but he refused.[6] He is perhaps best remembered for winning the Battle of Tours in 732, in which he defeated an invading Muslim army and halted northward Islamic expansion in western Europe.[7]

    A brilliant general—he lost only one battle in his career (the Battle of Cologne)—he is a founding figure of the Middle Ages, often credited with a seminal role in the development of feudalism and knighthood, and laying the groundwork for the Carolingian Empire.[8][9] He was also the grandfather of Charlemagne.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

    He stopped an invading Muslim army, that was probably bent on converting everybody to Islam.

    As Bernhard Lewis  writes, if it had not been for him the banner of Islam might today be waving over 10, Downing Street.

    I, for one am thankful that it is not.
    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #51 - February 21, 2010, 10:30 PM
    Quote from: Paloma on February 21, 2010, 10:10 PM
    He stopped an invading Muslim army, that was probably bent on converting everybody to Islam.


    While being head of an invading Christian army that was bent on converting everybody to Christianity.

    Quote from: Paloma on February 21, 2010, 10:10 PM
    As Bernhard Lewis  writes, if it had not been for him the banner of Islam might today be waving over 10, Downing Street.

    I, for one is thankful that it is not.


    Well, you don't know. A lot can happen in 1500 years history. Just as we now have a very tamed and liberal version of Christianity in Europe (actually not since that long though), there could be a very tame and liberal version of Islam after 1500 years presence in Europe. Could actually be a much more liberal version compared to Western European Christianity. We don't know.
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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #52 - February 21, 2010, 10:35 PM
    It wasn't an invading army.  He was actually requested by the rulers.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #53 - February 21, 2010, 10:38 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on February 21, 2010, 10:35 PM
    It wasn't an invading army.  He was actually requested by the rulers.


    What? Pagan Saxons, Suebi, Alamanni, Frisians and Bavarians demanded him to invade their lands to convert them to Christianity?
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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #54 - February 21, 2010, 10:41 PM
    I'm talking about Poiters not what is now present day Germany.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #55 - February 21, 2010, 10:42 PM
    Well, I am not talking about Poiters  but the other wars under Charles Martel.
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  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #56 - March 17, 2010, 06:47 AM
    Quote from: Paloma on February 21, 2010, 10:10 PM


    He stopped an invading Muslim army, that was probably bent on converting everybody to Islam.



     
    I would prefer the word "submit" Cheesy.
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #57 - March 17, 2010, 07:45 AM
    Quote
    Could actually be a much more liberal version compared to Western European Christianity. We don't know.


    I would rather not run that experiment.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: The Universe is only 4,137 years old!
     Reply #58 - March 17, 2010, 08:30 PM
    Well, we couldn't run the experiment, because the time machine has yet to be invented.

    But my statement remains: We don't know how history would have evolved. Just consider the status of Christianity in Middle and Eastern European countries today.

    30 years ago, who would have expected that Catholicism and Orthodoxy could regain their stronghold in society after decades of communist rule while seeing a rise of atheism in Western Europe?
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