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 Topic: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]

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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #600 - February 25, 2010, 09:36 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 25, 2010, 09:35 PM
    Go on Hass - tell us what keyword you searched for to get this pic of Yeezvee ..


     lipsrsealed
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #601 - February 25, 2010, 09:40 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 25, 2010, 09:36 PM
    lipsrsealed

    Nevermind - I think I worked it out after looking up the keywords on the original link.  Would I be right with "nerd"?
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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #602 - February 25, 2010, 09:41 PM
    Guys stop questioing Charles like that. I asked him a simple question:

    Quote
    I don't care what you think of Islam, Judiasm or Buddism, etc.... the question again is:

    Would you label Muslims as Nazis? yes/no.


    To which he answered:

    Quote
    No.


    To which I responded with thanking him. (I'm very polite, you know).

    But Charles, ashamed of his Taqqiyya tactics changed his answer to:

    Quote
    I don't deserve that "thanks" as I don't consider Muslims much different from Nazis. And considering the fact that they find divine justification for their attitudes and behavior towards non-Muslims in their supposedly "divine" book makes them worse.


    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5442&start=60#p90741
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #603 - February 25, 2010, 09:42 PM
     Cheesy
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #604 - February 25, 2010, 09:47 PM
    OK see if you can guess who this is?

  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #605 - February 25, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Hassan said to Charles:

    Quote
    Charles, would you agree that FFI is not really an "Ex-Muslim" forum. I mean there may be 'some' ex-Muslims there. But it generally sees Islam from a "Never-been Muslim" perspective.

    Be honest!


    No, Hassan... it's becoming a fucking 700 Club. Or at least so it seems from the outside. Why take my word for it, check out this post:
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4944&p=92392#p92392


    Only a couple of days ago, a fucking piece of shit Christian looney implied I must be ashamed of being a Muslim:
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5256&p=97566#p97566


    But it doesn't end with a Christian nutjob, here's an atheist strongly suggesting I must be immoral for being a Muslim:
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5703&p=95551#p95551
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5703&p=95551#p95564
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5703&p=95551#p95573
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #606 - February 25, 2010, 10:04 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 25, 2010, 09:47 PM
    OK see if you can guess who this is?

    (Clicky for piccy!)

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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #607 - February 26, 2010, 03:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 23, 2010, 02:28 PM
    Hiya Fathom - nice post (though there are fundamental differences between some members of FFI & CoEM but, I won't spoil the positive vibe of what you said by going into all that again) - good to see you again, mate Smiley


    Hello Hassan, great to see you, and it's awesome to see you doing so well outside of your former religion. Your mind seems to be clearer now that you have questioned your beliefs, and made some conclusions about them. I certainly see a positive change.

    Sure, there are fundamental differences between some members of FFI & CoEM, but there are also some fundamental differences between some members of FFI and other members of FFI, as well as some fundamental differences between some members of CoEM and other members of CoEM. People are different no matter where you go.

    Yet the one thing that is undeniable about Ali Sina is his widespread reputation garnered from the technique he uses to get his message regarding Islam out to the masses. Love him or hate him, his technique has indeed been exceptionally successful at bringing the dangers of Islam into the public consciousness.

    Does that make him right? That's a matter of opinion, and everyone has one. I don't agree with everything he says or does, and neither do the vast majority of FFI users. But I respect him for his tenacity and determination, not to mention his accomplishments regarding bringing the dangers of Islam into the public consciousness.

    Each of us has a role that is distinctly different from the next person, but the one thing that we can be sure of is that we are all writing the same story about Islam, even if we are on different pages.


  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #608 - February 26, 2010, 03:22 AM
    Quote from: debunker on February 25, 2010, 09:41 PM
    Guys stop questioing Charles like that. I asked him a simple question:

    To which he answered:

    To which I responded with thanking him. (I'm very polite, you know).

    But Charles, ashamed of his Taqqiyya tactics changed his answer to:

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5442&start=60#p90741


    1) Muslims are nazis

    2) Muslims are like Nazis

    Big difference between the 2 statements above.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #609 - February 26, 2010, 03:29 AM
    Quote from: debunker on February 25, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Hassan said to Charles:

    No, Hassan... it's becoming a fucking 700 Club. Or at least so it seems from the outside. Why take my word for it, check out this post:
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4944&p=92392#p92392


    Only a couple of days ago, a fucking piece of shit Christian looney implied I must be ashamed of being a Muslim:
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5256&p=97566#p97566


    But it doesn't end with a Christian nutjob, here's an atheist strongly suggesting I must be immoral for being a Muslim:
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5703&p=95551#p95551
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5703&p=95551#p95564
    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5703&p=95551#p95573



    He isnt completely wrong.People are being ashamed to be called a Nazi and people ideally should  be ashamed to be called a muslim because Nazism and islam  have the same goals i.e racial superiority and domination of the world and none would want to be a follower of both.The only difference is Nazism is recognized as an evil ideology while Islam is not widely recognized and thats why we dont find muslims being ashamed of being a muslim.Once islam is being exposed people would surely be ashamed to be called as muslims.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #610 - February 26, 2010, 03:52 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 25, 2010, 09:32 PM
    Charles, would you agree that FFI is not really an "Ex-Muslim" forum. I mean there may be 'some' ex-Muslims there. But it generally sees Islam from a "Never-been Muslim" perspective.

    Be honest!




    You can check this thread.Khalil Fariel himself is an ex muslim but he never had views like you.

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104&hilit=ex+muslims
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #611 - February 26, 2010, 10:07 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 25, 2010, 09:32 PM
    Charles, would you agree that FFI is not really an "Ex-Muslim" forum. I mean there may be 'some' ex-Muslims there. But it generally sees Islam from a "Never-been Muslim" perspective.

    Be honest!



    Hassan, I would say that each person whether at FFI or at COEM sees Islam from his/her own perspective.

    Since the ex-Muslims are not currently in majority at FFI, it follows that FFI as a whole does not see Islam from "ex-Muslim" perspective.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #612 - February 26, 2010, 10:22 AM
    Quote
    Hassan, I would say that each person whether at FFI or at COEM sees Islam from his/her own perspective.

    Since the ex-Muslims are not currently in majority at FFI, it follows that FFI as a whole does not see Islam from "ex-Muslim" perspective.  

    I wonder whether you could think some reasons for that  dear charlesmartel .

    Not Just one., I am sure there are many..

    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #613 - February 26, 2010, 10:36 AM
    Quote from: Fathom on February 26, 2010, 03:01 AM
    Hello Hassan, great to see you, and it's awesome to see you doing so well outside of your former religion. Your mind seems to be clearer now that you have questioned your beliefs, and made some conclusions about them. I certainly see a positive change.

    Sure, there are fundamental differences between some members of FFI & CoEM, but there are also some fundamental differences between some members of FFI and other members of FFI, as well as some fundamental differences between some members of CoEM and other members of CoEM. People are different no matter where you go.

    Yet the one thing that is undeniable about Ali Sina is his widespread reputation garnered from the technique he uses to get his message regarding Islam out to the masses. Love him or hate him, his technique has indeed been exceptionally successful at bringing the dangers of Islam into the public consciousness.

    Does that make him right? That's a matter of opinion, and everyone has one. I don't agree with everything he says or does, and neither do the vast majority of FFI users. But I respect him for his tenacity and determination, not to mention his accomplishments regarding bringing the dangers of Islam into the public consciousness.

    Each of us has a role that is distinctly different from the next person, but the one thing that we can be sure of is that we are all writing the same story about Islam, even if we are on different pages.

    I agree
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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #614 - February 26, 2010, 11:14 AM
    Quote from: Fathom on February 26, 2010, 03:01 AM
    Hello Hassan, great to see you, and it's awesome to see you doing so well outside of your former religion. Your mind seems to be clearer now that you have questioned your beliefs, and made some conclusions about them. I certainly see a positive change.

    Sure, there are fundamental differences between some members of FFI & CoEM, but there are also some fundamental differences between some members of FFI and other members of FFI, as well as some fundamental differences between some members of CoEM and other members of CoEM. People are different no matter where you go.

    Yet the one thing that is undeniable about Ali Sina is his widespread reputation garnered from the technique he uses to get his message regarding Islam out to the masses. Love him or hate him, his technique has indeed been exceptionally successful at bringing the dangers of Islam into the public consciousness.

    Does that make him right? That's a matter of opinion, and everyone has one. I don't agree with everything he says or does, and neither do the vast majority of FFI users. But I respect him for his tenacity and determination, not to mention his accomplishments regarding bringing the dangers of Islam into the public consciousness.

    Each of us has a role that is distinctly different from the next person, but the one thing that we can be sure of is that we are all writing the same story about Islam, even if we are on different pages.


    Nice post, Fathom  Afro
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #615 - February 26, 2010, 01:19 PM
    Quote
    Nice post, Fathom  Afro

    ya..ya.. but your posts are NOT nice in this folder dear Hassan ....specially to FFI and yeezevee..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #616 - February 26, 2010, 01:33 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 26, 2010, 01:19 PM
    ya..ya.. but your posts are NOT nice in this folder dear Hassan ....specially to FFI and yeezevee..


    You are right my dear mr Yeezevee.

    Please make sure you send your objections to:

    CEMB Complaints Dept
    I Give a Shit Road,
    Trashbin,
    London,
    UPURS 4QU
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #617 - February 26, 2010, 01:53 PM
    Quote
    You are right my dear mr Yeezevee.

    Please make sure you send your objections to:

    CEMB Complaints Dept
    I Give a Shit Road,
    Trashbin,
    London,
    UPURS 4QU

    Off course I am right.,    I NEVER WAS WRONG in my life  ...lol....., but I am not going to send my complains to your SHIT ROAD., I will send it to you dear Hassan.,

    The first complain is ., you are NOT spending enough time and NOT giving any thoughts on your favorite folder

    "The Reformed Islam of COEM "  http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8853.0

     So start..start.., Airing your ideas on the reforms and the method /direction to do such reforms are very important .  More over you have the background + that determination to do that

     That is more important than staying in shit place..in a shit folder writing shit dear Hassan..  so stop writing in this folder dear Hassan..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #618 - February 26, 2010, 01:58 PM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on February 26, 2010, 03:29 AM

    He isnt completely wrong.People are being ashamed to be called a Nazi and people ideally should  be ashamed to be called a muslim because Nazism and islam  have the same goals i.e racial superiority and domination of the world and none would want to be a follower of both.The only difference is Nazism is recognized as an evil ideology while Islam is not widely recognized and thats why we dont find muslims being ashamed of being a muslim.Once islam is being exposed people would surely be ashamed to be called as muslims.

    You make a good point. 
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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #619 - February 26, 2010, 01:59 PM
    Yes Mum!
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #620 - February 26, 2010, 02:01 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 26, 2010, 01:33 PM
    You are right my dear mr Yeezevee.

    Please make sure you send your objections to:

    CEMB Complaints Dept
    I Give a Shit Road,
    Trashbin,
    London,
    UPURS 4QU


     Cheesy
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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #621 - February 26, 2010, 02:05 PM
    Hassan says
    Quote
     Yes Mum!  

    Good ..lol.,  You do need Mother and motherly figure.. NOW STOP WRITING here Hassan.


    Now where is that charlesmartel., he is NOT reading my posts., let me paste it again..

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8767.msg223811#msg223811

    Let me pm him and may be i should take that at ffi...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #622 - February 26, 2010, 04:29 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 26, 2010, 01:58 PM
    You make a good point. 


    Thanks for the compliment mate. Smiley
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #623 - February 26, 2010, 04:31 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 26, 2010, 01:33 PM
    You are right my dear mr Yeezevee.

    Please make sure you send your objections to:

    CEMB Complaints Dept
    I Give a Shit Road,
    Trashbin,
    London,
    UPURS 4QU



    ahahahahahahahhahahahhahaha!!!!

    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #624 - February 26, 2010, 04:32 PM
    Wonderful to see you dear skynightblaze., Let me ask you the same question  about  what charlesmartel posted at Hassan., here it is

    Quote
    Hassan, I would say that each person whether at FFI or at COEM sees Islam from his/her own perspective.

    Since the ex-Muslims are not currently in majority at FFI, it follows that FFI as a whole does not see Islam from "ex-Muslim" perspective.  

    So here also I wonder whether you could think some reasons for that  dear skynightblaze.
    and what needed to be done at FFi to do that? Or you think it doesn't matter whether Muslim friends join/read ffi or not?? ..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #625 - February 26, 2010, 04:46 PM
    Quote from: Yeezevee
    Wonderful to see you dear skynightblaze., Let me ask you the same question  about  what charlesmartel posted at Hassan., here it is


    Quote from: Charleslemartel
    Hassan, I would say that each person whether at FFI or at COEM sees Islam from his/her own perspective.


    Since the ex-Muslims are not currently in majority at FFI, it follows that FFI as a whole does not see Islam from "ex-Muslim" perspective. 


    So here also I wonder whether you could think some reasons for that  dear skynightblaze.
    and what needed to be done at FFi to do that? Or you think it doesn't matter whether Muslim friends join/read ffi or not?? ..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee


    If muslims dont join FFI or any anti islamic site then ofcourse the site is as good as useless. The target audience is mainly the muslims.Be it a ex muslim or a non muslim we both know Islam is a political ideology disguised as religion.If Ex muslims have a different perspective on islam then I would say they need to re examine Islam again with an objective mind without associating themselves emotionally to it however I dont think ex muslims are not aware about islam .They share the same thought about islam as non muslims.I dont understand in what context Charleslemartel said this. I need to examine the previous pages.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #626 - February 26, 2010, 06:07 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 26, 2010, 10:22 AM
    I wonder whether you could think some reasons for that  dear charlesmartel .

    Not Just one., I am sure there are many..
    yeezevee


    Some reason for what, yeezevee? For ex-Muslims not being in majority at FFI? I will give you my opinion.

    FFI is one of the leading sites against Islam, and therefore it attracts more numbers of people who are anti-Islam.
    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #627 - February 26, 2010, 06:12 PM
    charles
    Quote
    FFI is one of the leading sites , and therefore it attracts more numbers of people who are anti-Islam.

    You mean to say Ex-Muslims are NOT against Islam??   Many of them are clearly Anti-Islam,  May be they are Not Anti-Muslim and they may not Insult Muslim folk and some time Islam  as much as Non-Muslims do in FFI.

    I wonder,  do you also mean that Ex-Muslims are NOT questioning what is there in Islam + Islamic Scriptures??
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #628 - February 26, 2010, 06:19 PM
    Yeezevee, skynightblaze, & CharlesMartel - do you mind posting a quick introductory thread

    Dont think anyone of you have done so yet, despite racking up quite a few posts Wink  Just makes it more interesting if we can place guys and get to know a least something about you as individuals, rather than just seeing you as FFI'ers Wink
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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #629 - February 26, 2010, 06:19 PM
    The reason most ex-Muslims don't stay on FFI is obvious.

    Do I really need to state it?

    It is just too extreme. Too much hatred expressed, by people who have no understanding or empathy with either them or their Muslim families.

    When it is said that good Muslim is not a good human being - the implication is that they were not good human beings nor their loved ones.

    Call it emotional if you like Charles - but it is plainly obvious that no-one can accept that - particularly when they know that neither they nor their families were 'bad human beings'.

    FFI is not a forum that understands Ex-Muslims and does not offer any support or help for what they go through.

    It really is obvious.
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