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  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #660 - February 27, 2010, 07:06 AM

    lol... you guys on FFI really hype up the whole "Muslims are gonna kill me" thing don't you... as if anyone is going to be interested in bumping you off...

    Everyone knows my name (even my surname) and seen my face and my vids - it would be sooooooooo easy to find where I live... and guess what... I'm still here - and more important I'm not bothered because it is part of the stand I make to be public about my apostasy.

    Yet you talk about fighting Islam lol... yeah right - spending all your time anonymously the internet - you are really gonna change the world   grin12

    Yet another reason FFI fails  grin12


    Why did people leave islam after reading FFI then? One question is asked and you get refuted.Btw we are sorry we arent idiots to take chances. WE witnessed what has happened to those mocked islam .It only takes one lunatic to think of killing me and not all so again you have no point.Also please come out of your delusions that CEMB has contributed something useful for mankind ..
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #661 - February 27, 2010, 08:55 AM

    Hassan says
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    Nothing really apart from once when I was confronted in North Finchley High Road by someone who recognised me and berated me about my vids - nothing I couldn't handle - no violence involved.

    Apart from that I have had a few ppl who know of me who have spoken to me or contacted me by phone about them - again no problem - they don't like what I'm doing, but tough tittie.


    I guess Hassan didn't read this

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8853.msg224109#msg224109

    Off course he doesn't need to

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #662 - February 27, 2010, 09:37 AM

    @Yeezevee

    There is no point in convincing him.He will keep repeating the same things. All he has to do is stay in an islamic country and do what he has been doing living in the west. I am damn sure he will know how kind  his UMMA is which he proudly tries to defend.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #663 - February 27, 2010, 09:45 AM

    Hassan says
    I guess Hassan didn't read this

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8853.msg224109#msg224109

    Off course he doesn't need to


    For those who live in Muslim countries I can totally understand them being far more careful. But most of us here - and on FFI - live in the West.

    No one is going to change anything hiding in a closet!
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #664 - February 27, 2010, 09:47 AM

    skynightblaze :  
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    I am damn sure he will know how kind  his UMMA is which he proudly tries to defend.

    Oh common,  off course Hassan knows  very well about  Islamic Ummah . Did he not join in any Islamic forums..lol.. such as Ummah.com..  


    But that is O.K. The fact Hassan came this far from where he was means something.,  His problem is also my problem.,  and that is  for e,g,.   if this Anti Islamic stuff spreads wildly and Some FUCKING IDIOTS from Islam carry out similar 9/11s in few western countries or in countries that is not dominated by Islamic Ummah, what will be the fate of 40 or so millions Muslims in West?

    I mean it will be like that Some Russian migrant Idiot in Germany killing a 25 year old Turkish women in a public park  for no reason except she was wearing Hijab.. just a head scarf..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #665 - February 27, 2010, 09:50 AM

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    For those who live in Muslim countries I can totally understand them being far more careful. But most of us here - and on FFI live in the west.

    No one is going to change anything hiding in a closet!


    well not all the people who writing anti Islamic stuff in web sites like FFI., they have close relations from where they come from. 

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #666 - February 27, 2010, 09:56 AM

    Yes, of course I realise that and I am not saying anyone should reveal their identity - I always advise ppl to be cautious.

    Just pointing out that if one truly wants to have an impact then one does have to take certain risks - it is something I admired Maryam Namzie for and it is something I made a conscious decision to join her in doing - to go public - as have many others in CEMB.

    I just find it funny that most on FFI are soooo paranoid and yet they are not even out there in the public arena. (NOr are they anywhere near as important as they think they are  grin12)

  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #667 - February 27, 2010, 09:57 AM

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEZEEEEEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #668 - February 27, 2010, 10:41 AM

    Yes, of course I realise that and I am not saying anyone should reveal their identity - I always advise ppl to be cautious.

    Just pointing out that if one truly wants to have an impact then one does have to take certain risks - it is something I admired Maryam Namzie for and it is something I made a conscious decision to join her in doing - to go public - as have many others in CEMB.

    I just find it funny that most on FFI are soooo paranoid and yet they are not even out there in the public arena. (NOr are they anywhere near as important as they think they are  grin12)




    What matters is the arguments and not my identity to have an impact on the muslim. My identity is immaterial as long as I am making valid points against islam.Lets say I am an alien who lives on Mars who looks like mickey mouse and has 4 legs, 2 faces and 8 hands. Do my arguments become less valid if I am that? Or does the muslim feel that his faith becomes stronger just because I am an alien with all those physical attributes? I believe that prevention is better than cure. By chance if some jihadi thinks that he knows me I am gone for sure .Why take chances unnecessarily? 
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #669 - February 27, 2010, 10:55 AM

    Quote from: Debunker
    saying Musims are Nazis/worse than Nazis means that they should be hunted down and threir countries invaded


    Now thats bullshit.You cannot deny that muslim Ummah has committed horrible crimes against mankind and that too for last 14 centuries and they are continuing to do so even today. It outweighs what Nazis did and hence muslim community has been worse than Nazis but this doesnt warrant hunting every muslim and invading their countries because there are still a lot of good people even among muslim community who are yet to know what islam stands for.In case of Nazis every single nazi knew what Nazism stood for.

  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #670 - February 27, 2010, 11:16 AM

     
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    YEEEEEEEEEEEEZEEEEEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

    BlackDog  You are vicious  DoG, You are Rottweiler  http://www.petsdo.com/blog/top-ten-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds .  You open a thread and disappear  from it  http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8853.80 and.. and blame Mughal  for all the trouble you create  in CEMB.. I ask you why?

    But Hassan drifted away from the thread FFI vs COEM without answering me., i will post the identity problems of FFI GHOSTS and  who  are creating problem to Islam,  Muslims in west and  Muslims, Iran, Pakistan,  Bangladesh ..Obama  etc..etc. later.    let me get back at Hassan and his problems with FFI...lol.., He certainly has more problems with FFI than BerberElla he said to me some time back
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    CEMB Complaints Dept
    I Give a Shit Road,
    Trashbin,
    London,
    UPURS 4QU

    . Now I am going to post the complain to his address ..lol.. So he said to me

     
    Quote
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8767.msg221811#msg221811

    I know you have a little difficulty understanding things, Yeezevee, but what I actually I said was that it is hypocritical for people on FFI to pour scorn on my methods of being polite, avoiding words that Muslims find insulting etc... and then use my videos (that use all those methods that you lot hate and ridicule so much!)

    But I appreciate that you guys at FFI have no problem with hypocrisy.

    Quote
    from: yeezevee on February 21, 2010, 08:42:59 PM
     Well I would suggest to friends don't use Hassan's viedos to educate Muslims


    You already have been recommending my videos on FFI:

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4989  

    he said to BD

    Quote
    I agree BD.

    I know Berbs and a few others say it helped them tremendously. But I suspect that is because there simply was nowhere else to go to hear some home truth on Islam. (And yes Ali and FFI have made many excellent points about Islam and said things that up to that point were not being said openly).

    But I personally believe it actually delayed my leaving Islam for the very reason you said.

    I went on there in 2002 and I was actually ready to leave Islam. I had so many doubts and questions. But I hated some of the hateful, vicious and ignorant comments I saw from people whose understanding of Muslims was mostly from the internet or tabloids. I actually clung on to Islam for another 5 years and I believe it was in part due to the disgust and anger I felt at some of rabid bigotry I saw on FFI.


    and he wrote at me
    Quote
    Your replies always leave me scratching my head. I'm not sure whether you didn't understand what I said or whether you are choosing not to understand.

    I know I shouldn't bother but I will try one more time to explain.

    I don't mind if anyone recommends my videos to anyone - so long as they don't go around criticising/mocking my methods. If they do they are hypocrites.

    When people come here and criticise our polite PC methods BUT THEN use our writings/videos/blogs (which use this polite/gentle method) to recommend to Muslims/Non-Muslims to to show Islam is false - that is called hypocrisy.

    Do you understand?

    To be fair to you I don't think I have ever seen you personally mocking/criticising our methods, but I see it all the time from other FFI members (see this thread as an example).

    What I want to know is why would SkyN, Ansar al-Zindiqi (mocking me for being so gentle and polite to Muslims - as he said: "The Mr Rogers of Islam") ixiolite (still insists on using muhammadan here even though she knows we prefer to avoid that term) and many others on FFI who think our PC methods are so wrong and misguided... why would they then use anything we do here or on blogs or on youtube for their own ends?

    Surely that means they recognise that this method is effective and at the very least has a place? No?

    So why don't they either shut the fuck up about criticising our PC methods OR stop using the stuff we do?

    If they don't then they are hypocrites... Simplz!

    Do you understand this time Yeezevee? (If not I'm not explaining again.)

    Now questions to Hassan

    Apart form yeezevee., who else used YOUR VIDEOS for their own ends??

    SkyB says he didn't use it.,

     I probably used once or at best Twice when some asked me at FFI (.it was long back when you started th etube business)

    Did Ali Sina use your videos?? Did Ansar use your videos, did ixolite  or some one from ffi  use your videos??

    So again who else used YOUR VIDEOS for their own ends  dear Hassan?

    And what did I get Promoting your Videos as a response to fellow  who wanted to know something about Prophets and their Origin??

    I got the Shit that is good

    what else dear Hassan? I will answer your problems of people hiding behind web like ffi, I guess you are going at Ali ..

    with best
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #671 - February 27, 2010, 11:22 AM



    Who's a good dog! Who's a good dog! Yes you are! Yes you are!

    What a magnificent beast.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #672 - February 27, 2010, 11:44 AM

    BD says
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    Who's a good dog! Who's a good dog! Yes you are! Yes you are!

    What a magnificent beast.

    ..No..no.no be careful., it is only good to owners, even some owners got hurt badly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQNxx634_bw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGhHv9bQY6w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyd0o_lEBY




    ****************************************************************************
    So SKB hits hard at those who are questioning ..those are who are hiding in web .. The Ghosts  The  Rottweilers to Islam.. behind the screen
    Quote
    I believe that prevention is better than cure. By chance if some jihadi thinks that he knows me I am gone for sure .Why take chances unnecessarily?

     i agree with you dear SKB., but this i don't get it
    Quote
    Now thats bullshit.You cannot deny that muslim Ummah has committed horrible crimes against mankind and that too for last 14 centuries and they are continuing to do so even today. It outweighs what Nazis did and hence muslim community has been worse than Nazis but this doesnt warrant hunting every muslim and invading their countries because there are still a lot of good people even among muslim community who are yet to know what islam stands for.In case of Nazis every single nazi knew what Nazism stood for.


    Why is that bullshit?? , how is comparing Muslim folk with NAZIS is NOT BULLSHIT., in fact in your response above proves that Comparison of Nazis and Muslim folk is BULLSHIT

    correct me if i am wrong dear skb..

    with best regards
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #673 - February 27, 2010, 12:44 PM

    What matters is the arguments and not my identity to have an impact on the muslim.


    That's where you're wrong hunny bun - it matters a great deal who is saying it and where they are coming from (metaphorically speaking). It also matters if you can see them and know who they are and their background. That has an enormous impact.

    Even Ali Sina understood that to a certain extent. He knew that ex-Muslims are the most powerful vehicle for criticising Islam. Unfortunately he forgot that there needs to be 'genuine' empathy - and due to his extreme and at times crazy views he was never able to kick-start a truly Ex-Muslim movement. His extreme statements also meant he had to remain hidden and could never become a visible and respected character - but just some shady anonymous guy on the internet that no one knows.

    It's funny but I kind feel that Ali Sina has gone - I mean the internet persona "Ali Sina" - is past tense - his method was too extreme and he was a crackpot - all those with any sense have abandoned him. All but the die hards remain. A loony fringe.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #674 - February 27, 2010, 12:50 PM

    Quote from: Yeezevee
    Why is that bullshit?? , how is comparing Muslim folk with NAZIS is NOT BULLSHIT.,  in fact in your response above proves that Comparison of Nazis and Muslim folk is BULLSHIT

    correct me if i am wrong dear skb..


    Look at the crimes that muslims have committed since last 1400 years. They have committed all sorts of crimes against mankind and that too they are more in number than what Nazis did. Now tell me how can you say that muslim community cant be compared with Nazis when history shows us that muslims did everything that nazis did and also more  in number than them? Would you still say muslims are better than Nazis? Its ridiculous to say that Yeezevee.

     This is a harsh reality and these people would never get it initially as they still cling to their emotions which prevents them from objective thought. Truth is bitter and it hurts. Though muslims are worse than nazis there is an essential difference. Nazis stood for their cause and they had no shame in admitting what  Nazism stood for  but many muslims have no clue about what islam stands for and infact they have a view contradictory to what islam says and thats why we cant attack them or hunt them as Nazis were hunted.for e.g  nazis would have no shame in admitting that a jew should be killed but many muslims on the other hand  wont dare to make such comments and wouldnt believe in it and thats why It makes no sense to invade them.

    I am comparing Nazis and muslims  with respect to the crimes that they have committed but there is a fundamental difference in the attitude and thats why I dont support for invading muslim countries and attacking them  except for whores like Pakistan(which is a different issue altogether and I have good reasons for it).
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #675 - February 27, 2010, 12:54 PM

    That's where you're wrong hunny bun - it matters a great deal who is saying it and where they are coming from (metaphorically speaking). It also matters if you can see them and know who they are and their background. That has an enormous impact.

    Even Ali Sina understood that to a certain extent. He knew that ex-Muslims are the most powerful vehicle for criticising Islam. Unfortunately he forgot that there needs to be 'genuine' empathy - and due to his extreme and at times crazy views he was never able to kick-start a truly Ex-Muslim movement. His extrem,e statements also meant he had to remain hidden and could never become a visible and respected character - but just some shady anonymous guy on the internet that no one knows.

    It's funny but I kind feel that Ali Sina has gone - I mean the internet persona "Ali Sina" - is past tense - his method was too extreme and he was a crackpot - all those with any sense have abandoned him. All but the die hards remain. A loony fringe.


    If people want where I come from then I have already disclosed that.I have disclosed my background. I am an ex hindu and currently an atheist from India.My name doesnt matter here. Also Ali Sina is not a history dude. There are lot of people still leaving islam because of FFI so again you cannot justify your hatred towards FFI logically.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #676 - February 27, 2010, 01:07 PM

    Look at the crimes that muslims have committed since last 1400 years. They have committed all sorts of crimes
    Quote
    against mankind and that too they are more in number than what Nazis did. Now tell me how can you say that muslim community cant be compared with Nazis when history shows us that muslims did everything that nazis did and also more  in number than them? Would you still say muslims are better than Nazis? Its ridiculous to say that Yeezevee.

     This is a harsh reality and these people would never get it initially as they still cling to their emotions which prevents them from objective thought. Truth is bitter and it hurts. Though muslims are worse than nazis there is an essential difference. Nazis stood for their cause and they had no shame in admitting what  Nazism stood for  but many muslims have no clue about what islam stands for and infact they have a view contradictory to what islam says and thats  why we cant attack them or hunt them as Nazis were hunted.for e.g  nazis would have no shame in admitting that a jew should be killed but many muslims on the other hand  wont dare to make such comments and wouldnt believe in it and thats why It makes no sense to invade them.

    I am comparing Nazis and muslims  with respect to the crimes that they have committed but there is a fundamental difference in the attitude and thats why I dont support for invading muslim countries and attacking them  except for whores like Pakistan(which is a different issue altogether and I have good reasons for it).

    You are giving me headache,  that filth  http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=3946.msg224390#msg224390    is sprouting MORE FILTH in CEMB  and I am trying to sleep dear SKB..

    I will answer you point by point  but think about what you wrote
    Quote
    Nazis stood for their cause and they had no shame in admitting what  Nazism stood for  but many muslims have no clue about what islam stands for and infact they have a view contradictory to what islam says and thats why we cant attack them or hunt them as Nazis were hunted.


    Forget your words like HUNTING., I don't think you can hunt a rabbit.,
    So for that highlighted words of yours, it is good  reason to say that Muslims are NOT same/similar as NAZIS., neither  in their supremacy behavior.,  Nazis never gave chance and never allowed to join Nazi hitlerism., Islam and Muslim open heartdly asking you to join., if you join they don't hurt you., That is not same as Nazis., Jewish folk never said anything against Nazism..but any ways they were killed.

    I tell you,  you do have the right to criticize and write against Islam/Muhammad , but some of your wording in your posts are improper..

    Any way I will respond to you.. I have a  headache

    with best regards
    yeezevee


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #677 - February 27, 2010, 01:08 PM

    Quote
    If people want where I come from then I have already disclosed that.I have disclosed my background. I am an ex hindu and currently an atheist from India.My name doesnt matter here. Also Ali Sina is not a history dude. There are lot of people still leaving islam because of FFI so again you cannot justify your hatred towards FFI logically.

    here I have to completely agree with you dear SKB.. send the complains to "THE SHIT ROAD.."

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #678 - February 27, 2010, 01:17 PM

    I just find it funny that most on FFI are soooo paranoid and yet they are not even out there in the public arena. (NOr are they anywhere near as important as they think they are  grin12)


    I haven't watched your videos except for "Prayer", so I wish to ask you if you have criticized Muhammad in your videos, have you?

    Except for the few people like Buddha, EACH one of us thinks of himself as important, don't you? It is a stupid comment coming from you as you don't know who is who at FFI. Even without knowing anything about certain people you make the mistake of commenting on their worth or importance.

    You are quick to pronounce generalized verdicts on FFI members, yet you take umbrage when we say something negative about Muslims. You have strong objection to we generalizing, yet you don't think twice committing the same folly again and again.

    Weren't you talking so strongly about hypocrisy just a few pages back? Hmmmm.....?

    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #679 - February 27, 2010, 01:27 PM

    That's where you're wrong hunny bun - it matters a great deal who is saying it and where they are coming from (metaphorically speaking). It also matters if you can see them and know who they are and their background. That has an enormous impact.


    That is a typical thought or argument of believers. Something was said by Allah, so it must be true and can't be wrong. Something else was said by Muhammad who was uswa hasana, so that must be the truth and can't be wrong. Bible was written by humans (there is no gospel of God or Jesus), so it can be dismissed easily. Messenger is more important than the message, yeah sure.


    Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
    Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #680 - February 27, 2010, 01:41 PM

    That is a typical thought or argument of believers. Something was said by Allah, so it must be true and can't be wrong. Something else was said by Muhammad who was uswa hasana, so that must be the truth and can't be wrong. Bible was written by humans (there is no gospel of God or Jesus), so it can be dismissed easily. Messenger is more important than the message, yeah sure.


    Are you claiming it makes no difference who is saying it?
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #681 - February 27, 2010, 01:44 PM

    charlesmartel
    Quote
    That is a typical thought or argument of believers. Something was said by Allah, so it must be true and can't be wrong.

    I am not very certain that analogy is correct in comparing Ali Sina(or some one else) writing against  Islam &    hiding from REAL MUSLIMS..    and ..  Muhammad preaching all Moral values & getting verses from Allah to sleep with that good looking lady Zainab,  the wife of his adopted Son  dear Charles..

    So I say such comparsion is invalid..

    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #682 - February 27, 2010, 01:45 PM

    I haven't watched your videos except for "Prayer", so I wish to ask you if you have criticized Muhammad in your videos, have you?


    I suggest you watch my videos to find the answer yourself.

    Here's one on Muhammad.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exz5kT47P2s
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #683 - February 27, 2010, 01:47 PM

    Here's another you might find interesting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-YtP5FFsXU
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #684 - February 27, 2010, 01:52 PM

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    Are you claiming it makes no difference who is saying it?

     If it is truth and he/she  is going against Billion people with very little support from others.. the answer is yes  and it is better to hide..

    Moreover others have the rights to criticize what the person is saying.. For e.g., let us say, A Muslim Like Dr. Naik and Ali discusses on web with pseudo names, it makes no difference, it is up to the readers to figure out who is telling truth.

    Let me tell you Islam would have NOT been what it is now if WEB was there at that time  or if people were allowed to criticize Muhammad at that time. In fact I would claim That if web was not there, You would have been BLIND to Islam as you were 10 years back dear Hassan..  That is also true to me.

    Any ways., but..but  you are Not answering me dear Hassan.,  It appears my posts are NOT going to the right Address "The Shit Road"

    with best regards
    yeezevee




    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #685 - February 27, 2010, 02:13 PM

    Any ways., but..but  you are Not answering me dear Hassan.,  It appears my posts are NOT going to the right Address "The Shit Road"

    with best regards
    yeezevee

     Cheesy

    My Book     news002       
    My Blog  pccoffee
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #686 - February 27, 2010, 02:15 PM

    others have the rights to criticize what the person is saying


    Of course they do - but whether they all have equal impact is quite another story.

    Who is saying it and how they are saying it makes a big difference and can be the difference between getting through to someone or not.

    If you or Charles or SkyN can't see that - that's not my problem.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #687 - February 27, 2010, 02:17 PM


    Any ways., but..but  you are Not answering me dear Hassan.,  It appears my posts are NOT going to the right Address "The Shit Road"


    btw don't worry Yeezee - they're getting there  Afro
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #688 - February 27, 2010, 02:24 PM

    @Yeezevee

    IT depends on the perspective that you see .If you see the crimes then muslims are worse than nazis in that regard but if you compare them about their behaviour or attitude towards others muslims score over nazis so it depends on the parameter that you compare both.
  • Re: FFI vs. COEM [Split: Poster of the month!]
     Reply #689 - February 27, 2010, 02:28 PM

    Of course they do - but whether they all have equal impact is quite another story.

    Who is saying it and how they are saying it makes a big difference and can be the difference between getting through to someone or not.

    If you or Charles or SkyN can't see that - that's not my problem.


    I have refuted this argument of yours plenty of times in this thread itself.Sweet talks , the background of a person , the color of his arse and blah blah cannot act as substitute for arguments. First comes the argument and then rest of these things. All these things that you talk about are secondary needs and  are like cream on the coffee which makes coffee taste better but without the coffee itself  cream has no value.Same is the case here. Arguments are the coffee while all the things that you mentioned are the cream.
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