To All Muslims Here: Does God Allow Hitting One's Wife?

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To All Muslims Here: Does God Allow Hitting One's Wife?
OP - March 18, 2010, 07:24 PM

This was possibly the first topic that made me wonder whether the Qur'an was actually from a human source rather than a divine one.

Today I see more and more Muslims saying it doesn't mean hit - so I was wondering what Muslims here think?
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Reply #1 - March 18, 2010, 07:29 PM

Woops! I voted...

Can admins please remove my vote??

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Reply #2 - March 18, 2010, 07:31 PM

Done. I've reset the votes to Zero.

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Reply #3 - March 18, 2010, 07:31 PM

Quote from: Iblis on March 18, 2010, 07:29 PM
Woops! I voted...

Can admins please remove my vote??

I'm going to have to hit you with my Miswak.
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Reply #4 - March 18, 2010, 08:00 PM

I really, really wanna vote. I'm trying my best not to though. It's really itching in my fingers, can I vote on behalf of Abu Yunus?
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Reply #5 - March 18, 2010, 08:02 PM

Well other non Muslims or ex Muslims can vote (have voted) - there's no way to restrict the poll to only certain users. Discussion would be a better indicator than relying on just votes.

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Reply #6 - March 18, 2010, 08:04 PM

I actually don't want to vote yes

When muslims act better than the founder of their religion its time to call it quits.
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Reply #7 - March 18, 2010, 08:11 PM

Abdurahman Green 'ee say YES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7cYbCgRJgs
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Reply #8 - March 18, 2010, 08:13 PM

Don't hit her in front of the kids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58
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Reply #9 - March 18, 2010, 08:14 PM

Don't beat her too hard that it will make her face ugly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8g8S6F3do
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Reply #10 - March 18, 2010, 08:15 PM

These guys are so romantic

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Reply #11 - March 18, 2010, 08:17 PM

The miraculous wisdom of this verse is that some women just won't change unless if they are hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr-vt2DTCFw
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Reply #12 - March 18, 2010, 08:18 PM

There are rules you know. What you think we are? Savages?

Sometimes I wish the Monty Python group were born and raised muslims.
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Reply #13 - March 18, 2010, 08:18 PM

Not sure what this pratt is talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00wHKRVnSaM
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Reply #14 - March 18, 2010, 08:20 PM

Quote from: BlackDog on March 18, 2010, 08:18 PM
Sometimes I wish the Monty Python group were born and raised muslims.

I've thought the same thing - I keep planning to do a Pythonesque vid - just am too busy these days!
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Reply #15 - March 18, 2010, 08:20 PM

Here's another one that has been posted on another thread somewhere on the forum before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nUI3TUdFCk&feature=player_embedded

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Reply #16 - March 18, 2010, 08:22 PM

Definitely no more than 10 blows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7qiO3Ygnk
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Reply #17 - March 18, 2010, 08:24 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 18, 2010, 08:20 PM
I've thought the same thing - I keep planning to do a Pythonesque vid - just am too busy these days!

lol imagine one sketch where an alim is teaching of soon to be husbands how to discipline their mischievous wives

and one of them is doing it wrong

"no no your nitwit, this is how you use the miswak. Oi what you think your doing, that does not belong in your mouth"

he gets more frustrated with them because they wont do it right and starts hitting them, in the beginning they take it out of shock and surprise, as he starts hitting harder and harder they get really mad and in the end he is chased out, hit with punches and sandals, while getting beat you can overhear him shout "lightly brothers, lightly, remember first admonish then administer"
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Reply #18 - March 18, 2010, 08:25 PM

Women want their husbands to be real men:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJkmRBEOC3o
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Reply #19 - March 18, 2010, 08:27 PM

Beating women is related to their cultural context - in some some cultural contexts it's OK to beat one's wife - they expect it! Others not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcQTmcgkKA&feature=related
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Reply #20 - March 18, 2010, 08:29 PM

Oooh, these guys are so kinky. Its true, some women do like it rough. Though not many like it Quranic rough. XD

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Reply #21 - March 18, 2010, 08:29 PM

Quote from: BlackDog on March 18, 2010, 08:24 PM
lol imagine one sketch where an alim is teaching of soon to be husbands how to discipline their mischievous wives

and one of them is doing it wrong

"no no your nitwit, this is how you use the miswak. Oi what you think your doing, that does not belong in your mouth"

he gets more frustrated with them because they wont do it right and starts hitting them, in the beginning they take it out of shock and surprise, as he starts hitting harder and harder they get really mad and in the end he is chased out, hit with punches and sandals, while getting beat you can overhear him shout "lightly brothers, lightly, remember first admonish then administer"

lol

I wish someone would do a parody like - "The Life of Brian" - they could call it "The Life of Fulan"
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Reply #22 - March 18, 2010, 08:34 PM

Quote from: Iblis on March 18, 2010, 08:29 PM
Oooh, these guys are so kinky. Its true, some women do like it rough. Though not many like it Quranic rough. XD

I love AmazingAtheists description of the Battered wife syndrome:

"Ooooh it's not his fault officer... he warned me several times to have his dinner on the table in time... I deserved it... please don't take him away officer..."

Anyhooooo... here's one more and I'm gone spamming this topic.

This guy was just a tad too manly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZY_7gzFdxU
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Reply #23 - March 18, 2010, 08:37 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 18, 2010, 08:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZY_7gzFdxU

:'(

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Reply #24 - March 18, 2010, 08:39 PM

I voted yes ( I am not sure if ex muslims were allowed to vote or, confused on the first few posts)

Nowadays Muslims will try cover up any negatives of the Quran and Sunnah on the outside but follow its rules to the dot in the inside
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Reply #25 - March 18, 2010, 08:47 PM

look at this idiot, compares a Muslim Women to an Appliance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWGA8i6scYY&feature=related
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Reply #26 - March 18, 2010, 08:49 PM

Quote from: _truth_ on March 18, 2010, 08:39 PM
Muslims will try cover up any negatives of the Quran and Sunnah on the outside but follow its rules to the dot in the inside

I don't agree with that at all. I think those who have reinterpreted the verse to mean something else are quite genuine about it and really do believe it doesn't mean hit.

I know a few who believe it doesn't mean hit - and no - they are NOT practising Taqiyya to please the kuffar and then beat their wives secretly.
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Reply #27 - March 18, 2010, 08:50 PM

lol i just cant imagine Abu Yunus being a wife beater
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Reply #28 - March 18, 2010, 08:54 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 18, 2010, 08:49 PM
I don't agree with that at all. I think those who have reinterpreted the verse to mean something else are quite genuine about it and really do believe it doesn't mean that.

I know a few who believe it doesn't mean hit - and no - they are NOT practising Taqiyya to please the kuffar and then beat their wives secretly.

Interesting point
But however how does one reinterpret verses of the quran that Muhammad already specifically laid out. Perhaps these new interpretations come from an modern day influences?
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Reply #29 - March 18, 2010, 09:01 PM

One of my salafi friends was a second wife. Her co-wife had been disobeying her husband and he finally got fed up and he actually sat down with my friend (the second wife) to discuss it. It was very matter-of-fact, as she tells it, and he calmly stated that he would need to beat her, with no more emotion than if he had decided to get a hair cut. She (my friend) agreed that a beating was called for, and he planned out when and where and how, and told the poor first wife that she would receive a beating and the reason for it. I think he ended up using a belt and striking her 3 times on the arm.

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