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  • Why are you still alive?
     OP - March 20, 2010, 06:18 PM
    Yo! I used to be a member on this forum a while back, but then the muslims here found out about me being on here and started watching me, so I had to lay low and delete my account. I have still been coming here everyday! This site is my best friend!

    Anyways,
    Ever since leaving Islam, like many of y'all, I feel like life is kind of pointless. I mean leaving Islam came with pros and cons, I'm still not sure which one outweighs the other :-/. I have been feeling life is kind of pointless and questioning why I am still here, however the other day I got high and started asking myself how could anybody hate this life, so once I came down I was kind of surprised I was having those thoughts, I guess deep inside I don't want to die, but didn't really know it. I'm still extremely curious of what comes after death, what is nothingness, could it be something else?
    Anyways whats keeping you guys alive? Like whats the point to live??
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #1 - March 20, 2010, 06:22 PM
    I had that feeling too. But, after a while, you ignore it and you focus on life again.
    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #2 - March 20, 2010, 06:23 PM
    Probably only because it's illegal to kill me.
    fuck you
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #3 - March 20, 2010, 06:52 PM
    Curiosity keeps me alive: why die sooner when instead you can die later and figure out more things?
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #4 - March 20, 2010, 06:54 PM
    There's a lot to live for. We all make our own purpose in life. Dont need religion to do that.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #5 - March 20, 2010, 07:19 PM
    Quote from: Tlaloc on March 20, 2010, 06:52 PM
    Curiosity keeps me alive: why die sooner when instead you can die later and figure out more things?


    Problem with this is that all that information will be lost when you die. It's quite annoying. Technology for taking memory backups in my lifetime would not be a bad thing.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #6 - March 20, 2010, 07:55 PM
    Quote from: jt263 on March 20, 2010, 07:19 PM
    Problem with this is that all that information will be lost when you die. It's quite annoying. Technology for taking memory backups in my lifetime would not be a bad thing.

    Not my problem.
    That is the problem of all those that will survive me Tongue
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #7 - March 20, 2010, 08:20 PM
    I'm still alive because I haven't died yet, or at least not that I've noticed. Also I just happen to like being alive, which may be completely irrational but is good enough for me.  parrot
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #8 - March 20, 2010, 09:04 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on March 20, 2010, 06:23 PM
    Probably only because it's illegal to kill me.

     Cheesy
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #9 - March 20, 2010, 11:17 PM
    Quote from: Tlaloc on March 20, 2010, 06:52 PM
    Curiosity keeps me alive: why die sooner when instead you can die later and figure out more things?

    +1
    I don't want to die so I can learn more. It doesn't even bother me that what I learned will be lost with me. The pleasure comes while and when finding out, not after you found out.
    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #10 - March 20, 2010, 11:20 PM
    I simply do not have the time or interest to think about why I'm here. I'm busy.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #11 - March 21, 2010, 12:08 AM
    The ideas of 'purpose' or 'meaning' always seemed like pure bullshite to me. The kind of things that the religious propagate in order to get people to think that they need religion. Just as they say that if we didn't have religion and God we'd be fornicating in the streets.

    I mean, it's funny. Religious people bring this up all the time. They say, 'well, if there's no God then our lives are meaningless and purposeless!' And I say, 'Yeah so?  Reality is the way it is whether we like it or not.'

    So why do people attach themselves to this perceived need for meaning? I mean, if God exists and your life has an objective purpose then it has a purpose. And if God doesn't exist and you life is, as such, without a purpose then that's just the way it is, isn't it? Whether you like it or not.

    The problem is that it's not just a matter of how things are, it's that they WANT there to be a purpose. And that's the problem.

    I think an example might best explain it:

    If I owned a ferrari, say, and it got stolen or destroyed, I'd be pretty depressed about it. Why? Because I've experienced loss in that case. I had something to which I felt attached, and now I don't have it anymore.

    But, If I never had a ferrari to begin with, would I be all dejected about not having one? Constantly miserable and depressed at my lack of this object of attachment? No, because I have no attachment to or perceived need for the ferrari.

    The perceived need for objective meaning is exactly the same idea. It's an idea that people have attached themselves to and so they feel that if they don't have it then they've lost something. But, if you aren't attached to the idea in the first place, then how can you feel loss about not having it?

    All people have to do is not attach themselves to the idea in the first, and not make it a prerequisite for their own happiness. It is only because they make it a requirement for their happiness that they suffer pain if it is absent.

    I think it was Karl Marx who said, "The abolition of religion as the false happiness of the people is necessary for the realization of their true happiness."

    I think he was right.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #12 - March 21, 2010, 12:53 AM
    Looks like we need to post 'Freddy the Leaf' again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZI-Rf1_sk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Z8BLRMLjc&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVnwrSL8id0&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvwD1rSz63E&feature=related
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #13 - March 21, 2010, 01:04 AM
    Hi Nugzy

    You ask many salient questions - you need to work through this yourself, but rest assured many of us here asked the same question and still managed to avoid using a rope as a neck tie.

    The bad news is that it took me many years to work myself out of this particular quandry, fact is that we lost our comfort balnket and as a society we have not learned coping mechanisms for this problem yet.  Perhaps why religion has been so successful as a temporary plug to hide the gap, and why it was invented in the first place.

    Remember ..

    The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality. - Bernard Shaw

    Anyhow, tell us about your journey without revealing any personal details, and how you came across this site in the first place
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  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #14 - March 21, 2010, 03:53 AM
    Quote from: nugzy on March 20, 2010, 06:18 PM
    I have been feeling life is kind of pointless and questioning why I am still here

    If you're asking why I am here? then I say because I came to exist.

    If you're asking what's the purpose and why I  would want to live then I say because I have ambitions and wanna do stuff. I want to have lots of sex, I want to become rich and buy a nice house and a BMW and maybe another vacation home. I wanna achieve success and along the way help my fellow human. I wanna make a change.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #15 - March 21, 2010, 09:26 AM
    sorry IA but bmw? lawl

    (just fucking with you, i always like to call out "immigrants" on it. like there are no other cars but bmw and mercedes)
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #16 - March 21, 2010, 09:46 AM
    Because I still live like a muslim and I intend on experiencing all the things I've been deprived of because of ridiculous beliefs before I kick the bucket  Wink
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #17 - March 21, 2010, 10:01 AM
    I have always been alive and always will be alive.
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #18 - March 21, 2010, 10:45 AM
    Quote from: z10 on March 21, 2010, 10:01 AM
    I have always been alive and always will be alive.


    You just gotta love z10.  Afro
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #19 - March 21, 2010, 03:09 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on March 21, 2010, 09:26 AM
    sorry IA but bmw? lawl

    (just fucking with you, i always like to call out "immigrants" on it. like there are no other cars but bmw and mercedes)

    Hey fuckface, don't you dare mock my taste in cars.

    No srsly, it's not like I saw a beemer and went "oohh beotifol car". I'm a huge car enthusiast and have decided that a BMW is my dream car after some thorough research. I'd like a 335i coupe. And yes I've considered Audi and Jags and while I find them luxurious, they don't even come close in handling and driving dynamics.

    If you're up for IT, we can chat and I promise to kick your ass in everything related to cars. Prices, specifications, performance data you name it.   
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #20 - March 21, 2010, 03:14 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on March 21, 2010, 03:09 PM
    Hey fuckface, don't you dare mock my taste in cars.

    No srsly, it's not like I saw a beemer and went "oohh beotifol car". I'm a huge car enthusiast and have decided that a BMW is my dream car after some thorough research. I'd like a 335i coupe. And yes I've considered Audi and Jags and while I find them luxurious, they don't even come close in handling and driving dynamics.

    If you're up for IT, we can chat and I promise to kick your ass in everything related to cars. Prices, specifications, performance data you name it.   


    lol no man, i dont have much interest for cars, they look good some of them and i want one that looks good, i'd go for a bmw anyways..  grin12
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #21 - March 21, 2010, 08:38 PM
    I'm still alive as there is much to live for as PS has mentioned. In particular:

    - do fun things, laugh
    - have a career (hopefully) and feel like accomplishing something
    - settle down, start a family, meet someone special
    - generally leave the world in a better state

    ... but I guess if a person doesn't feel the need for any of that, then well, it has occured to me sometimes why even bother. There is a quote I really dislike, something among the lines of "Man is not old until hopes and dreams end in failure and regret". Now this may suck, life can seem daunting at times, but hey, it you are alive and well, then there is so much one can do for the world. So live life, do the best you can and live without regrets! Afro
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  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #22 - March 21, 2010, 08:40 PM
    HighOctane have you ever made like an in depth intro post? How and why you apostatized?
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #23 - March 22, 2010, 04:41 AM
    Was listening to this song...made me think of this thread:

    So, you're feeling unimportant,
    'Cuz you've got nothing to say.
    And your life is just a ramble
    No one understand you anyway

    Well, I got a piece of news son,
    That might make you change your mind
    Your life is historically meaningfull
    And spans a significant time

    Well, now do you feel a little better
    Lift up your head and walk away
    Knowing we're all in this together
    For such a short time anyway

    There is just no time to parade around
    Sulking, i would rather laugh than cry
    The rich, the poor, the strong, the weak
    We share this place together
    And we pitch into help it die

    I'm not too good at giving morals
    And I don't fear the consequence
    If life makes you scared and bitter
    At least it's not for very long

    Slumber will come soon.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlLyqABnkgs
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #24 - March 22, 2010, 04:51 AM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on March 21, 2010, 03:09 PM
    Hey fuckface, don't you dare mock my taste in cars.

    No srsly, it's not like I saw a beemer and went "oohh beotifol car". I'm a huge car enthusiast and have decided that a BMW is my dream car after some thorough research. I'd like a 335i coupe. And yes I've considered Audi and Jags and while I find them luxurious, they don't even come close in handling and driving dynamics.

    If you're up for IT, we can chat and I promise to kick your ass in everything related to cars. Prices, specifications, performance data you name it.   


    1995 deep purple Lincoln Town Car with white leather interior
    fuck you
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #25 - March 22, 2010, 05:38 AM
    I don't know about that one but being an American car from the mid 90s, I imagine it is ridiculously large, has a huge v8 yet produces less than 200 HP and takes ages to get to 60, handles like shit, and breaks down every other month.

    So far, among US car companies, only Ford is holding its ground. In fact, I think if they play it right and keep making these splendid models they just might overtake Toyota. Oh and GM is shite.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #26 - March 22, 2010, 06:21 AM
    I am in a different position because I didn't grow up being told there was a heaven or life after death so I don't have expectations to begin with. I think unless you have that idea drilled into you, you're always going to be skeptical...

    The only thing I can assume is that this is just the cycle of life. We're animals. We are born, we produce, we die and that is it. I assume being dead would be much like having never been born; non-existence. That's what makes life beautiful though, you only have the here-and-now. If this is all you've got then you've got to make the most of it.

    Religion provides a false sense of security. I certainly wouldn't want to lie on my death bed after 80 years of living by religious rules and dogmatic beliefs and think "what if I'm wrong?" and not ever get that time back...
     
    I had this conversation on a drunken night with my friends a week ago, and forced myself to start eating barbecue sauce off my friends chest and thought to myself "I've got to experience everything before I die!!!!" I really don't want to go having not experienced everything I can.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #27 - March 22, 2010, 06:47 AM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist
    So far, among US car companies, only Ford is holding its ground


    The latest string of Stang's are kickass indeed! The new 2011 V6 stang has 305 Bph and over 30 mpg! They're doing some promotion thing where they're gonna try to go 1000 miles on a single standard tank. That's allot of HP for a V6 with that kinda mileage. Of course when you use all that HP all the time, you sure aint gonna get +30 mpg  Wink

    As for living Nugzy, we live because we were born as evolved creatures with self awareness and doubts. The doubts come because we are self aware, but the fun is in defeating those doubts and gaining experience along the way.
    When we die, we decompose and return our energy to the planet it came from, just like all living things that have ever come before, or will come after us. While I know that doesn't sound great, I accept that because we know that's what happens to all biological things and I'm comfy with that, because at least I got the chance to experience life as a human and not a fly or something.

    Sure it would be great if we lived forever after death in some utopian place where it's all fun & games (or sex according to a certain religion), but what makes more sense really. We evolved of this planet, and to it we must all return. And in a few billion years the Sun will take back all that it gave existence too, and then be gone itself in a way. Maybe all of what we were will become the seeds for a new solar system that can support life and allow it to evolve in it's own way again.

    My dream is that somehow I could watch that entire process happen. I know I can't, but Wow...wouldn't that be something to see.
    "I will not give credit for my accomplishments to an imaginary supreme being, therefore, I also take full responsibility for all of the miserable failures in my life."
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #28 - March 23, 2010, 02:48 AM
    Why does a lack of meaning have to be a bad thing? We're here as the result of a chain of extremely improbable events. Against all odds, we're here. Thanks to our ancestors, we've been given a shot at life, in bodies capable of extremely complex thoughts and actions. Isn't that enough? Just enjoy your life, learn as much you can, don't harm anyone, and try to improve things for the next generation. Based on what we know, this is the only life we'll get. If nothing else, just stick around to see what happens next. That's reason enough to live.
    You need to read this book.
  • Re: Why are you still alive?
     Reply #29 - March 23, 2010, 02:52 AM
    Quote from: Godot on March 23, 2010, 02:48 AM
    Why does a lack of meaning have to be a bad thing? We're here as the result of a chain of extremely improbable events. Against all odds, we're here. Thanks to our ancestors, we've been given a shot at life, in bodies capable of extremely complex thoughts and actions. Isn't that enough? Just enjoy your life, learn as much you can, don't harm anyone, and try to improve things for the next generation. Based on what we know, this is the only life we'll get. If nothing else, just stick around to see what happens next. That's reason enough to live.


    +1

    People are so emo about their "purpose" in life. Being alive itself, living and exploring life is meaning enough!
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

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