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OP - March 23, 2010, 01:18 AM

Our dear friend and respected member [/sarcasm] just posted this on my story:

Iftikhar said, on March 22, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Salaam

A man is a product of his culture, language and faith. Bilingual mUslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

All ex-Muslim youths are the product of British education sysytem with monolingual non-Muslim teachers. During their childhood, they were sent to Masajid where they learnt how recite the Holy Quran withoput understanding and basic Islamic teaching. Since they have been cut off from their culture and languasges, therefore, when they grow up in a secular society, they were not ready to face the social and economic challenges. It is easy for them to become athiest or non-believers.

In my opinion, all Muslim children from the age of three should be in Muslim schools with Muslim teachers, otherwise, they will grow up to become non-believers or suffer from Identity Crises.
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Reply #1 - March 23, 2010, 01:20 AM

And I must add this comment from blueish:

blueish said, on March 22, 2010 at 7:06 pm

Fucktard.
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Reply #2 - March 23, 2010, 01:30 AM

ha, this guy is an absolutely crazy shithouse! He is all over the internet dropping his rubbish.

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #3 - March 23, 2010, 02:21 AM

ROFL

Just when you think Musulmans can't get more retarded another turd drops from the servants of the almighty sky god Allah. What a bunch of dildos, instead of addressing the points you make across literally dozens of videos he seizes on the fact that you're from a bilingual culture?

How weak and fragile is Allah's very own religion if such a trivial thing can blind people to the awesome truth that is Islam? Even if what he is saying is remotely true all it would mean is that Islam is weak and easily distorted.

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Reply #4 - March 23, 2010, 02:54 AM

then how does he account for the Ex Muslims from the Middle East that are born and bred Arabic speaking and Islamic environmental Muslims
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Reply #5 - March 23, 2010, 03:34 AM

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Reply #6 - March 23, 2010, 06:24 AM

who is iftikhar?
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Reply #7 - March 23, 2010, 11:30 AM

Quote from: Hassan on March 23, 2010, 01:18 AM
Our dear friend and respected member [/sarcasm] just posted this on my story:

Iftikhar said, on March 22, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Salaam

A man is a product of his culture, language and faith. Bilingual mUslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

All ex-Muslim youths are the product of British education sysytem with monolingual non-Muslim teachers. During their childhood, they were sent to Masajid where they learnt how recite the Holy Quran withoput understanding and basic Islamic teaching. Since they have been cut off from their culture and languasges, therefore, when they grow up in a secular society, they were not ready to face the social and economic challenges. It is easy for them to become athiest or non-believers.

In my opinion, all Muslim children from the age of three should be in Muslim schools with Muslim teachers, otherwise, they will grow up to become non-believers or suffer from Identity Crises.

(thinking from Iffy's perspective)
I think he is probably right, if you want the Islam to survive over the long term, then Islam needs to be incorporated into schools. Society needs a way to find a way to let Islam in, currently it doesnt.

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Reply #8 - March 23, 2010, 11:38 AM

So, Muslims need special isolation from kuffar influence?
But maybe when non-Muslims want special isolation from Islam, they are evil and racist?

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Reply #9 - March 23, 2010, 02:08 PM

According to Iftikaar, all the problems in the world can be solved by making the government fund private Islamic schools where Muslim children can be served by bilingual teachers since the current education system is somehow redundant because it isn't bilingual and it doesn't have special classes just for children of a particular religious group.

It's the same old tune. Do not bother trying to reason with him unless you really want a robotic response regurgatating his original stance.
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Reply #10 - March 23, 2010, 02:12 PM

Quote from: Tlaloc on March 23, 2010, 11:38 AM
But maybe when non-Muslims want special isolation from Islam, they are evil and racist?

Pretty much. Which is why I've always argued Islam, unlike many world religions, does not practice the "golden rule". Muslims expect tolerance and the ability to spread their message, but they demand critics be silent and their own right to be free from non-islamic influences. That includes executing anyone preaching another religion in Muslim nations.

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Reply #11 - March 23, 2010, 07:03 PM

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Pretty much. Which is why I've always argued Islam, unlike many world religions, does not practice the "golden rule". Muslims expect tolerance and the ability to spread their message, but they demand critics be silent and their own right to be free from non-islamic influences. That includes executing anyone preaching another religion in Muslim nations.

Very compelling. You can describe it as a lack of reciprocity too.

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #12 - March 23, 2010, 08:01 PM

so who is iftikhar?
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Reply #13 - March 23, 2010, 08:36 PM

Quote from: liberated on March 23, 2010, 08:01 PM
so who is iftikhar?

He's My Butt Buddy's buddy. They're both into Star Trek and can often be found chasing Klingons around Uranus.
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Reply #14 - March 23, 2010, 08:37 PM

Quote from: liberated on March 23, 2010, 08:01 PM
so who is iftikhar?

Have a look at his posts and note if you can find a common theme

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Reply #15 - March 23, 2010, 08:42 PM

I just posted a well thought out and comprehensive rebuttal:

http://abooali.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/welcome/#comment-805

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Reply #16 - March 23, 2010, 11:18 PM

He's someone who posts here?
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Reply #17 - March 23, 2010, 11:21 PM

Quote from: Iblis on March 23, 2010, 08:42 PM
I just posted a well thought out and comprehensive rebuttal:

http://abooali.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/welcome/#comment-805

lol
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Reply #18 - March 24, 2010, 12:48 AM

I'm deep.

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Reply #19 - March 26, 2010, 03:53 AM

lol nice.

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