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  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #30 - March 23, 2010, 09:26 PM
    What the fuck do you have stuck up your asses? You take a light hearted thread and turn into into a mind-numbing philosophical debate over definitions? Get off it.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #31 - March 23, 2010, 09:27 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on March 23, 2010, 09:22 PM
    Berbs, why are you being so defensive?


    Cause your boy is always starting pedantic arguments for argument's sake. Now sometimes this can lead to interesting discussions, other times it is just tiresome. Obviously in this scenario she thinks it's tiresome and annoying, so do I.

    James, please just give it a rest on this thread. There's always incest, the death penalty and abortion to debate about.
    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #32 - March 23, 2010, 09:33 PM
    P.S.--

    Quote from: Ferrero on March 23, 2010, 09:22 PM
    This may sound a bit harsh but please, see it in context. I'm not defending James because of who he is but rather seeing the way peope have reacted to this members' responses. He isn't the only one to be treated and disregarded in such a haphazard manner on this forum- it is fast becoming a nasty habit on the part of some.


    I think, generally, James has been respected and treated politely here, but that shouldn't mean every statement he makes or idea he has is entitled to respect. Nor does it mean he needs to be treated with kid gloves. If what someone is saying is annoying another person, there's nothing wrong with that other person acting accordingly. I don't see that anyone's crossed a line with James that has gone beyond disagreement, frustration, annoyance or offense into pure nastiness. Maybe it has at some point, but definitely not in this thread.
    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #33 - March 23, 2010, 09:36 PM
    So philosophical debates are mind-numbing for you. That's your opinion. You could have chosen to ignore that bit, but instead you thought it appropriate to insult anybody who makes that kind of contribution.

    Berbs said that the views in her original post were a new belief of hers and asked if anybody agreed with it. I just answered it. There really is no reason at all to get so angry.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #34 - March 23, 2010, 09:36 PM
    QMan, I admit he can be a bit pedantic at times but how has he done this here? I raised exactly the same point-- it's not a new belief as it stands. Berbs asked for views and she got responses she didn't particularly like. If I had been her I could have as easily responded by saying 'well yes, maybe I didn't mean re-incarnation in its' dictionary definition..' and then proceeded from there. Majority of this kind of nastiness is easily avoidable.

    Back to topic- who else believes people go through mini-reincarnations through their life i.e. metaphoically, after learning a lesson in one part of their life, close that particular door and apply what is learned in their next adventure?
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #35 - March 23, 2010, 09:40 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on March 23, 2010, 09:22 PM
    Berbs, why are you being so defensive? The point here is when you talk of 'reincarnation' most already have a pre-existing definition of the word, of the concept. Nobody is saying you are not entitled to your own views but for the sake of objectivity in defining things it may have been better to state you personally believe in a metaphorical definition of the term and then the rest of your 'new belief' would have been fine. I think it is a bit unwarranted to be jumping at James and shouting him down as being 'serious'; I wasn't aware that everyy discussion thread opened by Berbs comes with a 'p.s. my views are light heartened and not worth a serious discussion'.



    I certainly would have had I known it would lead to having, what was a sort of musing on my own way of looking at reincarnation, into a nitpick "Oh but you have to follow this particular set of rules, and set it out like this, and don't you be trying to think in your own way now girl, there is a lawful way of doing this" fest.

    It's like when you start a thread asking what the best take out is, clearly meaning what each persons favourite take out is, and some random member feels like posting about how subjective it all is, and how no one knows which is the best, and thus the question can never be answered, ie wierd.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #36 - March 23, 2010, 09:47 PM

    I like the idea of reincarnation. I doubt its a reality, but I like it in a romantic, artistic, poetic sense, in the same way that I like the idea of pantheism, even if its just a load of fluff.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #37 - March 23, 2010, 09:48 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on March 23, 2010, 09:36 PM
    Majority of this kind of nastiness is easily avoidable.


    What nastiness by Berbs are you referring to?

    This?

    Quote from: BerberElla on March 23, 2010, 04:02 PM
    Jesus get over yourself.   Roll Eyes


    Or this?

    Quote from: BerberElla on March 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Don't you just love people who pick apart everything for no other reason than being a pedant?


    Those are the only comments by her that I see here that even come close to being "nasty", and if that's "nasty" to you, I would love to live in your world, because people must be ridiculously polite and nice to each other. Actually, no I wouldn't want to live there, I'd probably go postal.

    James annoyed her, she made her annoyance known. That's all that happened.
    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #38 - March 23, 2010, 09:56 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on March 23, 2010, 09:40 PM
    I certainly would have had I known it would lead to having, what was a sort of musing on my own way of looking at reincarnation, into a nitpick "Oh but you have to follow this particular set of rules, and set it out like this, and don't you be trying to think in your own way now girl, there is a lawful way of doing this" fest.

    It's like when you start a thread asking what the best take out is, clearly meaning what each persons favourite take out is, and some random member feels like posting about how subjective it all is, and how no one knows which is the best, and thus the question can never be answered, ie wierd.


    It's not the same. Favourite take out is clearly a matter of personal taste, whereas whether definitions are a matter of personal taste or have a more concrete foundation is not so clear.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #39 - March 23, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Cool pic

    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #40 - March 23, 2010, 10:00 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 09:56 PM
    It's not the same. Favourite take out is clearly a matter of personal taste, whereas whether definitions are a matter of personal taste or have a more concrete foundation is not so clear.


    Unfuckinbelievable. You're like the Energizer bunny of petty pedantic arguments-- you never stop. Fuck this shit, I'm out.
    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #41 - March 23, 2010, 10:04 PM
    Qman, I was referring to how berbs poked fun at James with the Jim Cary posting and subsequently leading to us having a discussion on how the thread is going instead of the topic itself. This thread is no way as nasty as how things can get on this forum but lets' nip it in the bud? When one party feels deliberately attacked and/or undermined, the spirit of discussion dies. This, btw, works both ways.

    We're all adults capable of having a reasoned discussion. If anyone feels a particular point is too political/philosophical/linguistic/whatever it is better to leave it and offer something, if anything, constructive.  I think we all have enough brain cells to realise this so no need to drag further attention away from the topic.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #42 - March 23, 2010, 10:05 PM
    Quote from: My Butt Buddy on March 23, 2010, 10:00 PM
    Unfuckinbelievable. You're like the Energizer bunny of petty pedantic arguments-- you never stop. Fuck this shit, I'm out.


    How is that pedantic? If you use an unsuitable example to back up your point then don't get mad when someone calls bs.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #43 - March 23, 2010, 10:12 PM
    Quote from: My Butt Buddy on March 23, 2010, 09:48 PM
    James annoyed her, she made her annoyance known. That's all that happened.


    How did I annoy her?

    Do you mean this bit:

    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 02:05 PM
    Reincarnation: the belief that on the death of the body the soul transmigrates to or is born again in another body.


    Or was it this:

    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 02:33 PM
    Why go the extra step and say "hey we could call it reincarnation" I don't know.


    Well if mere dictionary definitions and rhetorical questions counts as annoying to you then your world must be full of people permanently red in the face and shaking.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #44 - March 23, 2010, 10:14 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on March 23, 2010, 10:05 PM
    How is that pedantic? If you use an unsuitable example to back up your point then don't get mad when someone calls bs.


    It just goes to show how pleasant Q-Man's world is.  Cheesy
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #45 - March 23, 2010, 10:15 PM
    James does not appear to have any concept of metaphor. I think this is the basic problem here. The OP was obviously speaking metaphorically and James could not see this, or at least that is the impression he gives.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #46 - March 23, 2010, 10:17 PM
    You know what else is metaphorical? The Quran verse 4:34.

    So, that begs the question, does Berbs believe in wife abuse?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #47 - March 23, 2010, 10:18 PM
    ANSWER THE QUESTION BERBS
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #48 - March 23, 2010, 10:26 PM
    No, osmanthus, it's far from clear. Unless what you mean is that it is clear that Berbs does not believe in traditional reincarnation, which is a given really.

    Berbs announced it as her "new belief" and asked everyone at the end whether people accept it or not. When you actually believe in something, it is either no longer or never was a metaphor.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #49 - March 23, 2010, 10:33 PM
    James, you will probably never understand this but you have just irrefutably proven my point.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #50 - March 23, 2010, 10:41 PM
    Quote
    met·a·phor  (mt-fôr, -fr)
    n.
    1. A figure of speech in which a word or phrase that ordinarily designates one thing is used to designate another, thus making an implicit comparison, as in "a sea of troubles" or "All the world's a stage" (Shakespeare).


    Now, continue with the beatdeadhorse
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #51 - March 23, 2010, 10:43 PM
    James is unstoppable lol

    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #52 - March 23, 2010, 10:45 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on March 23, 2010, 01:12 PM
    But I think it happens within our lifetime.

    They say that in each life you learn lessons that you take with you into your next life, I say you learn those lessons through certain stages of THIS life and take them with you into the next stage of THIS life.

    It makes no sense that you would learn a lesson in this life, that you would forget in the next one since you forget your so called former lives.

    It makes much more sense if you apply it to the stages of growth a human goes through in this one life.  Childhood > teenage years > young adulthood > middle aged > old..........no one thinks the same or is the same in any of those stages of life, we all change.

    We reincarnate as we live, as we remake ourselves based on lessons learned and experiences lived through.  

    Who's with me in my new belief?


    I'm with you. Its a beautiful way of looking at life.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #53 - March 23, 2010, 11:35 PM
    can Berb's definition could be an alternate way of saying about the dejavus we all feel once in a while?
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #54 - March 23, 2010, 11:44 PM
    Yes, Berbs was using the term reincarnation metaphorically, you're quite right. What I actually meant was that it wasn't a good one. The only way reincarnation could be said to be similar to the view expressed in the original post is if you assume a crass portrayal of a particular mechanism involved in reincarnation. Otherwise it's rather difficult to disagree with the basic description of human development Berbs outlined.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #55 - March 23, 2010, 11:45 PM
    End thread.  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #56 - March 23, 2010, 11:47 PM
    Quote from: _truth_ on March 23, 2010, 11:35 PM
    can Berb's definition could be an alternate way of saying about the dejavus we all feel once in a while?


    Berbs is trying to say that we go through stages in life, and that those stages are new chapters in our lives. We bring to new chapters what we learn from old chapters. This is comparable to reincarnation in the sense that you begin afresh from time to time.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #57 - March 23, 2010, 11:53 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 11:47 PM
    Berbs is trying to say that we go through stages in life, and that those stages are new chapters in our lives. We bring to new chapters what we learn from old chapters. This is comparable to reincarnation in the sense that you begin afresh from time to time.


    +1 Smiley

    Quote from: Hassan1 on March 23, 2010, 09:19 PM
    An Atheist friend of mind has a very scientific interpretation of reincarnation. He says that a person 'lives on' because he becomes one with the earth after being buried in it. You become one with the soil, which is used to grow food, which is eaten - and you are reborn.

    Something like that. He explained it better and more eloquently.


    Stardust to stardust, it's what we are made of and where we are all headed. In that sense, there can be said to be "reincarnation" in a grand, cosmological sense.

    On a more human level, there's something about reincarnating within one's life, like what Berbs is saying, recreating yourself, perhaps not in the sense that some Hindus believe (as in your "soul" is transported into another body) but renovating your beliefs, changing, remembering how things were before those changes, so you can still relate to others, but continuing to grow, evolve, change, within your lifetime.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #58 - March 23, 2010, 11:58 PM
    thanks James

    I also always wondered, what is this dejavu we feel
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #59 - March 24, 2010, 12:08 AM
    It is caused by a misfiring of neurones in our brain that interprets an event that is currently unfolding, as a recollection or memory of a past event.

    Sometimes I try to catch myself out when I feel de ja vu coming on and I try and think hard about when in the past I might have had that same perception before. Then I think about whether I could have honestly recalled that perception if I was prompted just before my de ja vu experience. I think a neuro-scientist would tell me that in light of the physical explanation of de ja vu, my efforts were destined to fail.  Tongue
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
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