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  • I believe in reincarnation
     OP - March 23, 2010, 01:12 PM
    But I think it happens within our lifetime.

    They say that in each life you learn lessons that you take with you into your next life, I say you learn those lessons through certain stages of THIS life and take them with you into the next stage of THIS life.

    It makes no sense that you would learn a lesson in this life, that you would forget in the next one since you forget your so called former lives.

    It makes much more sense if you apply it to the stages of growth a human goes through in this one life.  Childhood > teenage years > young adulthood > middle aged > old..........no one thinks the same or is the same in any of those stages of life, we all change.

    We reincarnate as we live, as we remake ourselves based on lessons learned and experiences lived through. 

    Who's with me in my new belief?   dance
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #1 - March 23, 2010, 01:58 PM
    It isn't really a new belief it's just a methaphorical spin on the changes experienced through life.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #2 - March 23, 2010, 02:03 PM
    LoL, thought this was going to be about the physical kind of reincarnation. Ye you're right.

    I think this is what we all do, subconciously though, in that we don't quite realise it or aware of it not until after a vast period of time but it would depend on the individual, i guess.
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #3 - March 23, 2010, 02:05 PM
    Reincarnation: the belief that on the death of the body the soul transmigrates to or is born again in another body.

    It sounds more like you want to re-define reincarnation. In which case, you don't believe in reincarnation as the definition currently stands. Also, you would need a reason to re-define reincarnation. We can't just go around re-defining whatever the hell we want.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #4 - March 23, 2010, 02:09 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 02:05 PM
    Reincarnation: the belief that on the death of the body the soul transmigrates to or is born again in another body.

    It sounds more like you want to re-define reincarnation. In which case, you don't believe in reincarnation as the definition currently stands. Also, you would need a reason to re-define reincarnation. We can't just go around re-defining whatever the hell we want.


    Said who?

    Frankly it's my mind, and I can redefine it anyway I want to.

    Oh, and little note, the title is meant to be tongue and cheek.  Afro


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #5 - March 23, 2010, 02:16 PM
    Language games.
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #6 - March 23, 2010, 02:18 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 02:05 PM
    We can't just go around re-defining whatever the hell we want.


    Quote from: BerberElla on March 23, 2010, 02:09 PM
    Said who?

    Frankly it's my mind, and I can redefine it anyway I want to.


    Whateva! She does what she wants!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZLVi4v7lSM&feature=related

    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #7 - March 23, 2010, 02:19 PM
     Cheesy
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #8 - March 23, 2010, 02:21 PM
    Nobody said you can't redefine it. I'm saying you practically don't want to. Trust me you don't. If you walk down the street and someone says "hey moron!" and you say, "I beg your pardon?" and they say "Chill out I just redefined moron to mean matey", are you going to think it's okay then or are you going to think that he ought to learn the standard accepted definition and keep to it?

    So you need a reason to redefine something that the rest of society will accept. It's no good saying you can redefine whatever you want because hey it's up to you. Definition is important exactly because it enables efficient communication and interaction with other members of society.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #9 - March 23, 2010, 02:25 PM
    Were you not paying attention? Berbs does what she wants. She ran for Congress and won, had sex with her intern, then killed her and hid her body. She runs with eight gangs, and they only commit hate crimes. She does what she wants.
    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #10 - March 23, 2010, 02:26 PM
    I also believe that personal definitions matter too.

    Has the word paki been redefined to mean something more affectionate between 2 pakistani people having a laugh with each other?  has the offence of the word changed or has it been redefined for them?

    What about the way nigger is cool for some to say to others?

    Or the fact that I call my friend "my bitch"?

    It's all redefined, even personally on other things.

    I don't like being told what I can or can't do, apart from fly, which lets face it, I can't.  But I can redefine whatever I want, for my own personal meaning.

    Which is what this thread was, wanted to see if anyone else could be down with the way I saw it?

    Not lecture me about what I;m allowed to do and not.   parrot
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #11 - March 23, 2010, 02:27 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on March 23, 2010, 02:25 PM
    Were you not paying attention? Berbs does what she wants. She ran for Congress and won, had sex with her intern, then killed her and hid her body. She runs with eight gangs, and they only commit hate crimes. She does what she wants.


    Word.  I could if I want to.  I does what I wantz.  dance
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #12 - March 23, 2010, 02:33 PM
    The difference between those examples and this is that in those examples, it is usually friends who are playfully redefining words to enhance the friendship they share. It's more arty if you like than in this case. In this case your calling for a redefinition of a concept that we all understand. Your belief would be better understood as, believing that we go through different stages in life and we learn things from previous stages that help us in future stages. Why go the extra step and say "hey we could call it reincarnation" I don't know.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #13 - March 23, 2010, 02:34 PM
    Because I like it, it makes the whole concept of reincarnation make more sense.

    It made me happy, still does, and that's what I'm talking about.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #14 - March 23, 2010, 02:38 PM
    Reincarnation is when our soul enters a new body once we have died. There's no difficulty in understanding that. It makes sense. However, maybe by "making sense" you mean "plausibly true", in which case, yes, I also don't think reincarnation is plausibly true.

    But what is wrong with having an easy word which efficiently stands for an otherwise difficult to explain concept, and calling it incorrect?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #15 - March 23, 2010, 02:43 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 02:33 PM
    In this case your calling for a redefinition of a concept that we all understand.


     Roll Eyes Montel, please.

    She's doing nothing of the sort. I don't see a petition to the OED attached to this post. She's personally redefining it, not calling for a general redefinition.

    The things you pick to argue over are really amazing James.
    fuck you
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #16 - March 23, 2010, 02:46 PM
    A sort of metaphorical reincarnation. I believe in it too. No need to get all philosophical about it, Berbs means it in a purely poetic personal way. Wink
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #17 - March 23, 2010, 04:01 PM
    Quote from: My Butt Buddy on March 23, 2010, 02:43 PM
    Roll Eyes Montel, please.

    She's doing nothing of the sort. I don't see a petition to the OED attached to this post. She's personally redefining it, not calling for a general redefinition.

    The things you pick to argue over are really amazing James.


    And your replies to my points are quite the same. A petition to the OED? No that's OTT.

    What even is a personal definition of a word? Never mind how it could conceivably be important. The importance of a definition of anything lies in its use in communication between individuals. It would be different if Berb's new view was connected in some significant way to the standard definition of reincarnation, or if it involved some deep understanding of reincarnation. But no. It's about as deep as if I said "I think a good work ethic requires one to become spiritually content with the activity they're required to do. Hey let's call this work ethic 'Jihad'! Who is with me on this new belief?"
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #18 - March 23, 2010, 04:02 PM
    Jesus get over yourself.   Roll Eyes
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #19 - March 23, 2010, 04:03 PM
    LOL James you are tho therious all the time.  mysmilie_977
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #20 - March 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Don't you just love people who pick apart everything for no other reason than being a pedant?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #21 - March 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Berbs, I couldn't have expected you to take it any less personally Wink
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #22 - March 23, 2010, 04:08 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Berbs, I couldn't have expected you to take it any less personally Wink





    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #23 - March 23, 2010, 04:12 PM
     Cheesy
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #24 - March 23, 2010, 05:25 PM
    Berbs, LOL @ Jim Carrey
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #25 - March 23, 2010, 09:09 PM
    Really, you expressed your opinion, then I expressed mine. Then you put on an attitude and told me to get over myself. What's with that?!  Huh?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #26 - March 23, 2010, 09:12 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on March 23, 2010, 09:09 PM
    Really, you expressed your opinion, then I expressed mine. Then you put on an attitude and told me to get over myself. What's with that?!  Huh?


    Don't tell me what I can and can't do with my own personal redefinitions then.  Had you stuck to expressing your opinion that would have been great, but you tell me what I am and am not allowed to do?  lol  alright mate, boss man.  Afro
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #27 - March 23, 2010, 09:19 PM
    An Atheist friend of mind has a very scientific interpretation of reincarnation. He says that a person 'lives on' because he becomes one with the earth after being buried in it. You become one with the soil, which is used to grow food, which is eaten - and you are reborn.

    Something like that. He explained it better and more eloquently.
    ...nor shall they encompass aught of His knowledge, except as He willeth...
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #28 - March 23, 2010, 09:21 PM
    Well like I said I don't think a personal definition of something makes much sense, but I think that's besides the point now that you decided to make this personal.

    For your information, YES I CAN tell you what I think you should or shouldn't do if I want to (not to mention the fact I gave reasons for it). The difference is I gave my opinion on what you said, whereas you rebuked me for making that opinion.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: I believe in reincarnation
     Reply #29 - March 23, 2010, 09:22 PM
    Berbs, why are you being so defensive? The point here is when you talk of 'reincarnation' most already have a pre-existing definition of the word, of the concept. Nobody is saying you are not entitled to your own views but for the sake of objectivity in defining things it may have been better to state you personally believe in a metaphorical definition of the term and then the rest of your 'new belief' would have been fine. I think it is a bit unwarranted to be jumping at James and shouting him down as being 'serious'; I wasn't aware that everyy discussion thread opened by Berbs comes with a 'p.s. my views are light heartened and not worth a serious discussion'.

    This may sound a bit harsh but please, see it in context. I'm not defending James because of who he is but rather seeing the way peope have reacted to this members' responses. He isn't the only one to be treated and disregarded in such a haphazard manner on this forum- it is fast becoming a nasty habit on the part of some.
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