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OP - April 04, 2010, 09:15 PM

atleast according to these people:

skip to 2:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_tLY-MDA3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbSOvS8MFuQ

I understand you want to be modest, but calling someone a whore/slut just because she chooses not to cover herself is ridiculous.

I personally don't understand the big deal about an "exposed" human body. I mean weren't we born naked? I find the human body( both inside and outside) to be a fascinating and beautiful thing. My favorite class in high school was Anatomy.

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Reply #1 - April 04, 2010, 09:20 PM

Absolutely, and dressing like Darth Vader is not modest either. Its just overkill. Its like the little toddler who shouts out "Looks at me!! I want attention!" if you think about it. I know my comparisons are shit, but just because a woman shows her calves or arms or whatever, does not make her a whore.

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Reply #2 - April 04, 2010, 09:28 PM

Quote from: LuckyTShirt on April 04, 2010, 09:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_tLY-MDA3c

I listed to the first 2 minutes where it talked about France as a more secular state than the UK because of the separation of church from state. It would be interesting to know if this has resulted in more Atheists/Agnostics in France compared to the UK? As I always thought there were more of them here.

Anyone know?

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Reply #3 - April 04, 2010, 09:32 PM

By the way, english nasheeds are corny as fuck. Like the one in the 1st video.

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Reply #4 - April 04, 2010, 09:38 PM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on April 04, 2010, 09:32 PM
By the way, english nasheeds are corny as fuck. Like the one in the 1st video.

the one that starts playing at 2:02 reminds me of a really bad Country song( no offense to Country music lovers) I heard on the way to work one day ....

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Reply #5 - April 04, 2010, 09:39 PM

It is the Madonna/Magdalene complex times 10. It is either full body covering or nakedness, absolute purity or absolute whoredom. When people take such bifurcate views, it distorts their vision of reality. There are shades of grey, not black and white

I think Pleasantville should be mandatory watching for these guys

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Reply #6 - April 04, 2010, 09:51 PM

Quote from: LuckyTShirt on April 04, 2010, 09:38 PM
the one that starts playing at 2:02 reminds me of a really bad Country song( no offense to Country music lovers) I heard on the way to work one day ....

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Reply #7 - April 04, 2010, 11:01 PM

lol @ the "sluts" being shown for 0.5s each, because otherwise we males might get way turned on by that very video ^_^

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Reply #8 - April 04, 2010, 11:03 PM

Ok i caNNOT ReaD sometHING written like thiS :(

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Reply #9 - April 05, 2010, 12:11 AM

mushallah! the miracle of Islam! <insert a whole heap of Arabic gibberish>

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Reply #10 - April 05, 2010, 12:31 AM

Daym, doze bitches be fly. Holla.

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Reply #11 - April 05, 2010, 02:38 AM

Quote from: Iblis on April 05, 2010, 12:31 AM
Daym, doze bitches be fly. Holla.

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Reply #12 - April 05, 2010, 02:57 AM

The last statement that guy made...lol...i was just going to make then, yeah i agree with him there, we shouldnt make her feel uncomfortable if thats what she chooses to wear just the same as if one us ladies wants to wear a mini short and belly top, or whatever. I don't get why they want to ban it, the face covering yes i say ban that especially in schools, because as human beings part of growning is learning how to read different faces the subtleties of facial expression a huge and important skill for people to have. Seeing someone's face immediately forms a connection between the person and you, because it makes them more human and you can relate to them.

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Reply #13 - April 05, 2010, 03:20 AM

Sheikh Khalid is being vary vague with his talk of scarves and full scarves. Is he talking about hijabs? Hijabs have not met much opposition. It is the full face veil (The niqaab or Bhurka) that is mostly being challenged. His nuns never wore those and Christians and Jews and most Muslims never wore those. He should be more clear unless his vagueness suits his purpose.

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Reply #14 - April 05, 2010, 10:07 AM

Quote from: IsLame on April 04, 2010, 09:28 PM
I listed to the first 2 minutes where it talked about France as a more secular state than the UK because of the separation of church from state. It would be interesting to know if this has resulted in more Atheists/Agnostics in France compared to the UK? As I always thought there were more of them here.

Anyone know?

According to the Eurobarometer Poll 2005, France has the largest proportion of atheists of any European country...

France: 33% answered that "I don't believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
United Kingdom: 20% said "I'don't believe there is any sort of spirit, God or life force".

Anyway, on topic, so apparently my great grandma is an immodest whore too?
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Reply #15 - April 05, 2010, 10:12 AM

I still say that the obvious solution it to blindfold and leash any Muslim men who can't handle looking at normal women. Those men are the ones with the problem, so it makes sense to put the cure on them. Simple.

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Reply #16 - April 05, 2010, 10:14 AM

Quote from: Unechance on April 05, 2010, 10:07 AM
According to the Eurobarometer Poll 2005, France has the largest proportion of atheists of any European country...

France: 33% answered that "I don't believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
United Kingdom: 20% said "I'don't believe there is any sort of spirit, God or life force".

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Anyway, on topic, so apparently my great grandma is an immodest whore too?

Secularism doesn't necessarily equal atheism; it just means that the public sphere is neutral when it comes to religion and even then there are different ways in which secularism can be expressed.

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Reply #17 - April 05, 2010, 01:57 PM

Quote from: deusvult on April 04, 2010, 09:39 PM
It is the Madonna/Magdalene complex times 10. It is either full body covering or nakedness, absolute purity or absolute whoredom. When people take such bifurcate views, it distorts their vision of reality. There are shades of grey, not black and white

I think Pleasantville should be mandatory watching for these guys

Very true. These guys can not seem to see there is a middle ground but I think what these guys need to learn is to never judge a book by its cover. There are plenty of non-Muslim girls who dress modestly, however Muslim perceptions of modesty are just so fallacious - covering one's entire body and face in a huge black cloth attracts a lot of attention in a western society where the majority of people do dress moderately.

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Reply #18 - April 05, 2010, 03:22 PM

Quote from: kaiwai on April 05, 2010, 10:14 AM
Secularism doesn't necessarily equal atheism; it just means that the public sphere is neutral when it comes to religion and even then there are different ways in which secularism can be expressed.

I've just misinterpreted what IsLame was asking when he said, "It would be interesting to know if this has resulted in more Atheists/Agnostics in France compared to the UK? As I always thought there were more of them here. Anyone know?"

I agree completely with what you've said though, it's interesting because Albania, for instance, is the first atheist-declared state, and yet its people are much more religious than Sweden which had a state religion until 2000... So yes, I know what you're saying.
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Reply #19 - April 05, 2010, 05:52 PM

Dhwaworks is such a total cunt:

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Reply #20 - April 05, 2010, 05:53 PM

Oh I remember that. Even Muslims thought he was a twat for that.

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Reply #21 - April 05, 2010, 06:45 PM

Quote from: Hassan on April 05, 2010, 05:52 PM
Dhwaworks is such a total cunt:

I would love to explain to him on camera the implications of Islamic view on modesty in general and the demand for hijab and such in particular.
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Reply #22 - April 06, 2010, 12:51 PM

Muslims often tend to view the world in binary terms, Muslim versus non Muslims (of every background), and distinguish themselves as pure in a world of filth and depravity. This obsession with the women of the kuffar world is marked in the writings of Qutb and Maududi, but it is manifest at a grassroots level in Islamic perception too. It is where many paths intersect - the manichean way of looking at humanity, the obsession with controlling the independance of women and an obsession with women's sexuality, viewing themselves engaged in a competition with the jahil, kuffar world for the souls of people, and an impulse to spray condemnation and declare as 'jahil' (barbaric and immoral) every society, culture, polity, religion that is not rooted in Islam, so that Islam can oppose and (ultimately, theoretically, as demented as this is), usurp it.

In liberal, secular societies where women are free and equal, this is the most pronounced abominable aberration from the basic neurosis of Islam - the sight of it is damnable. The neurosis rises to the surface, and becomes a prominent way of erecting boundaries and strengthening Islam, expecially amongst men and of course, women brainwashed into actually believing that they are cattle. Throw identity politics into the mix and it becomes even more sharp an issue.

Islam makes dawah out of the bodies and souls of kuffar women. Islam turns women into tools for its theological and imperialistic minded degeneracy. Islam wants to make the bodies of women, Muslim women and kuffar women, a battleground for its own neuroses and fears and oppressions.

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Reply #23 - April 06, 2010, 02:35 PM

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Islam makes dawah out of the bodies and souls of kuffar women. Islam turns women into tools for its theological and imperialistic minded degeneracy. Islam wants to make the bodies of women, Muslim women and kuffar women, a battleground for its own neuroses and fears and oppressions.

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Reply #24 - April 06, 2010, 02:57 PM

Mashallah, Laura Rodriguez is a great momina of al-Andalus

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Reply #25 - April 06, 2010, 08:26 PM

Quote from: LuckyTShirt on April 04, 2010, 09:15 PM
I understand you want to be modest, but calling someone a whore/slut just because she chooses not to cover herself is ridiculous.

The footage at the beginning is from a documentary by Byron Hurt called "Hip-Hop: Beyond Beats and Rhymes", which is well worth watching. What I find annoying is the way they've taken the original material completely out of context to support an argument that all women cater to the lowest common denominator of the male psyche by hiding their natural form from society. The original documentary comes to a wildly different conclusion: that men can and must change the way they view women. The muslim corruption of that documentary seeks the opposite, to disempower both men and women by encouraging the the former into hiding and forcing a damaging self-fulfilling prophecy into the minds of the latter that they are unable to learn self-restraint.

I would link the original documentary, but I don't appear to have permission to post links.

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Reply #26 - April 06, 2010, 08:35 PM

Good post, thinkfree.

Welcome to the forum, too

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Reply #27 - April 06, 2010, 08:36 PM

Welcome, thinkfree. You can't post links yet because you're a brand new member. Once you've got a handful of posts on the forum, you'll have the ability to post links.

Interesting documentary, Thanks. I just youtubed it and found it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8YpcN7oKIM

Would you like to post an intro thread in the Introductions section?

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Reply #28 - April 06, 2010, 09:56 PM

Quote from: allat on April 06, 2010, 08:36 PM
Welcome, thinkfree. You can't post links yet because you're a brand new member. Once you've got a handful of posts on the forum, you'll have the ability to post links.

Interesting documentary, Thanks. I just youtubed it and found it here:

I understand. Thanks for posting it, anyway.

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It's up now. I couldn't help posting a quick one here whilst I was typing the introduction post.

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