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OP - April 06, 2010, 08:44 PM

Hi,

I went through the islamo-spin-cycle a few years ago as a young 'revert'. Studying at seminary, giving speeches at events, doing 'dawah'; the whole nine yards. Not long after meeting a nice muslimah with the intention of marriage I began experiencing doubts. We went ahead and got married, and following a short stint of pretending everything was fine we sat down to have a frank conversation about the situation and I was reassured to find she also had her doubts. Neither of us were going to leave the other for becoming an apostate, so we mutually agreed to take the red pill wherever that might lead.

Fast forward a few years and things are better than ever (and still with my partner, minus the allah-shaped third wheel in our relationship) emancipated from constant background anxiety and guilt that my old imaginary pal might think less of me for failing to observe some inane 7th century doctrine.

I'm here because I feel that an individual who changes their mind about a particular set of beliefs shouldn't have to suffer social stigma, let alone live in fear. The fact is that many of those who may want to change their mind with regards to islam face a myriad of problems, many of which need not be tolerated in a free society. I also see challenging the taboo of apostasy in islam as an important step towards secularising muslims in general.

I could go on, but I'm sure anyone still reading is probably hoping I'll stop waffling. See you around!

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Reply #1 - April 06, 2010, 08:46 PM

Really happy to hear you two stuck by each other and 'survived' Islam!

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Reply #2 - April 06, 2010, 08:52 PM

Welcome, thinkfree. What a nice story, you two are lucky to have each other

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Reply #3 - April 06, 2010, 08:57 PM

Welcome!

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Reply #4 - April 06, 2010, 08:59 PM

Welcome thinkfree! Nice introduction. I'm glad everything worked out well for both of you.

Are you agnostics now?

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Reply #5 - April 06, 2010, 09:03 PM

Cool story thinkfree.
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Reply #6 - April 06, 2010, 09:06 PM

Welcome! Glad your marriage worked out! Feel free to expound as much as you want in this thread

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #7 - April 06, 2010, 09:07 PM

Cool stuff. Welcome to the forum.

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Reply #8 - April 06, 2010, 09:24 PM

Hello mate, welcome

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Reply #9 - April 06, 2010, 09:30 PM

Interesting story.
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Reply #10 - April 06, 2010, 09:37 PM

Thanks for all your replies!

Quote from: Pariah on April 06, 2010, 08:57 PM
The red pill has served well.

How did I know you'd be lurking here, troublemaker?

Quote from: Aziz on April 06, 2010, 08:59 PM
Are you agnostics now?

I'd place myself somewhere in the space between weak and strong atheism. Pariah on the other hand has actively deicidal tendencies.

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Reply #11 - April 06, 2010, 09:57 PM

Hi Thinkfree - welcome
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Reply #12 - April 06, 2010, 10:06 PM

Did you know that your lady has been here for a while?

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Reply #13 - April 06, 2010, 10:35 PM

Welcome Thinkfree.

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Reply #14 - April 06, 2010, 10:38 PM

Hello and welcome...

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Reply #15 - April 06, 2010, 10:40 PM

Great story. Hope you stick around.

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Reply #16 - April 06, 2010, 10:52 PM

Welcome thinkfree. You're very lucky that your wife also had the same doubts. What were the chances of that eh!?

I also very much agree with breaking the taboo of questioning Islam. These kinda discussions need to be had not just on the internet, but on the street and in the mosque!

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Reply #17 - April 07, 2010, 12:03 AM

ok mm what's a red pill...
and

welcome!...

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Reply #18 - April 07, 2010, 12:04 AM

Quote from: nessrriinn on April 07, 2010, 12:03 AM
ok mm what's a red pill...
and

welcome!...

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Reply #19 - April 07, 2010, 12:07 AM

oh it's a movie thing... ok i don't feel so bad now..
naw movies like the matrix don't do it for me..
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Reply #20 - April 07, 2010, 12:10 AM

Quote from: nessrriinn on April 07, 2010, 12:07 AM
oh it's a movie thing... ok i don't feel so bad now..
naw movies like the matrix don't do it for me..
thanks Hassan!

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Reply #21 - April 07, 2010, 02:27 AM

I would have so picked the blue pill!

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Reply #22 - April 07, 2010, 07:48 AM

Welcome to the forum Thinkfree.
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Reply #23 - April 07, 2010, 07:52 AM

Quote from: thinkfree on April 06, 2010, 08:44 PM
Hi,

I went through the islamo-spin-cycle a few years ago as a young 'revert'. Studying at seminary, giving speeches at events, doing 'dawah'; the whole nine yards. Not long after meeting a nice muslimah with the intention of marriage I began experiencing doubts. We went ahead and got married, and following a short stint of pretending everything was fine we sat down to have a frank conversation about the situation and I was reassured to find she also had her doubts. Neither of us were going to leave the other for becoming an apostate, so we mutually agreed to take the red pill wherever that might lead.

Fast forward a few years and things are better than ever (and still with my partner, minus the allah-shaped third wheel in our relationship) emancipated from constant background anxiety and guilt that my old imaginary pal might think less of me for failing to observe some inane 7th century doctrine.

I'm here because I feel that an individual who changes their mind about a particular set of beliefs shouldn't have to suffer social stigma, let alone live in fear. The fact is that many of those who may want to change their mind with regards to islam face a myriad of problems, many of which need not be tolerated in a free society. I also see challenging the taboo of apostasy in islam as an important step towards secularising muslims in general.

I could go on, but I'm sure anyone still reading is probably hoping I'll stop waffling. See you around!

so tell us how you found us & where you're from?

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Reply #24 - April 07, 2010, 08:39 AM

Greetings and salutations, thinkfree!

You are very lucky that your missus had the same doubts as you. Unfortuantely for me, I realized that once I had come to the conclusion that Islam was NOT the truth it pretty much spelt the end of my marriage to my lovely, but VERY Muslim husband. I just couldn't keep up the pretense anymore myself.

Look forward to your posts.

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Reply #25 - April 07, 2010, 04:37 PM

Quote from: IsLame on April 07, 2010, 07:52 AM

so tell us how you found us & where you're from?

IsLame, don't take it personal. But do you have an OCD for asking people to post their stories and how they found the forum?

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Reply #26 - April 07, 2010, 04:38 PM

Naw man, Islame just likes to get to know every new member. I think thats the great thing about CEMB.

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Reply #27 - April 07, 2010, 04:39 PM

Quote from: Infidel on April 07, 2010, 04:37 PM
IsLame, don't take it personal. But do you have an OCD for asking people to post their stories and how they found the forum?
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Reply #28 - April 07, 2010, 04:40 PM

Quote from: Iblis on April 07, 2010, 04:38 PM

Naw man, Islame just likes to get to know every new member. I think thats the great thing about CEMB.

Yep! We like see the human behind the screen name.
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Reply #29 - April 07, 2010, 06:23 PM

Quote from: Infidel on April 07, 2010, 04:37 PM
IsLame, don't take it personal. But do you have an OCD for asking people to post their stories and how they found the forum?

You know what, ive been waiting fo someone to raise why i always ask the same question. Surprised it took this long !

I think its interesting and also informative and useful to know how people found out about the site. Businesses interested in growth spend millions on doing customer research. Here we can do it by typing a few characters. So if you want me to stop repeating the same question, someone else should beat me to it

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