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 Topic: How to survive Ramadan?!

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #240 - August 09, 2010, 09:57 PM

    You're bad, baaaad boy! I quit when I was 16. As an indoctrinated teen I was therefore far more faithful! (Or gullible... :-L  )

    I actually felt kinda guilty, but I quit because I had major OCD issues and would spend more than an hour repeating each wudu/prayer. It was crazy. wacko I thought that I'd quit for a while and then come back to it later but then just got used to not praying and kept procrastinating... and the rest is history. grin12
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #241 - August 09, 2010, 10:08 PM

    ETA: And prayed when mum would be forceful about it, usually during the ramadan month and mostly I'd pretend to be praying.


    Pretend praying is art:
    "Has it been a few more seconds yet ? I think it has ... right time to for Sudjood ... now what was I thinking about, oh those shoes, well they are fairly expensive ... okay, must be time for Sudjood again, let's do it a few seconds early so they don't think I'm faking it though not too early otherwise they'll think I'm not saying prayers in my head ... right, sitting down in the Qu'ud position now ... those shoes would be really nice, but I need that hair straightener too, those GNC ones ... oh blimey, I've forgot, how many times have I been in the Qu'ud position? Stay calm, no one is monitoring you, just get up once more for Fatiha before going down to Qu'ud again, that should be enough .... hmm growing hair long means a lot of maintenance, how do women find the time every mornings ... where are we, ah finally the part where we wish ... bla bla bla ... few more seconds ... 5 4 3 2 1 I'm done. Hooray!!"

    Grin

    PS: Reference for those positions: http://muslim-canada.org/salaat.html
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #242 - August 09, 2010, 10:13 PM

    Pretend praying is art:
    "Has it been a few more seconds yet ? I think it has ... right time to for Sudjood ... now what was I thinking about, oh those shoes, well they are fairly expensive ... okay, must be time for Sudjood again, let's do it a few seconds early so they don't think I'm faking it though not too early otherwise they'll think I'm not saying prayers in my head ... right, sitting down in the Qu'ud position now ... those shoes would be really nice, but I need that hair straightener too, those GNC ones ... oh blimey, I've forgot, how many times have I been in the Qu'ud position? Stay calm, no one is monitoring you, just get up once more for Fatiha before going down to Qu'ud again, that should be enough .... hmm growing hair long means a lot of maintenance, how do women find the time every mornings ... where are we, ah finally the part where we wish ... bla bla bla ... few more seconds ... 5 4 3 2 1 I'm done. Hooray!!"

    Grin

    PS: Reference for those positions: http://muslim-canada.org/salaat.html

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  Cheesy LmaoCheesy
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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #243 - August 09, 2010, 10:21 PM

    @Solarjaaz:  Cheesy

    I actually felt kinda guilty, but I quit because I had major OCD issues and would spend more than an hour repeating each wudu/prayer. It was crazy. wacko I thought that I'd quit for a while and then come back to it later but then just got used to not praying and kept procrastinating... and the rest is history. grin12


    Mate, while reading 1984 I've got the idea a part of the Islamic memeplex's strength is the rituals put in place to keep people busy and active and not *think*. And such rituals and prayers and constant praying/thinking of God will be susceptible to those who are most faithful & hardworking (and followers in life, being truly misled by higher powers who take advantage of them). Going off on a tangent ... but indeed interesting with regards to OCD. Praying in Islam can be addictive, I think.
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #244 - August 09, 2010, 10:26 PM

    That's an interesting point you've got there, HighOctane.

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #245 - August 09, 2010, 10:34 PM

    Pretend praying is art:
    "Has it been a few more seconds yet ? I think it has ... right time to for Sudjood ... now what was I thinking about, oh those shoes, well they are fairly expensive ... okay, must be time for Sudjood again, let's do it a few seconds early so they don't think I'm faking it though not too early otherwise they'll think I'm not saying prayers in my head ... right, sitting down in the Qu'ud position now ... those shoes would be really nice, but I need that hair straightener too, those GNC ones ... oh blimey, I've forgot, how many times have I been in the Qu'ud position? Stay calm, no one is monitoring you, just get up once more for Fatiha before going down to Qu'ud again, that should be enough .... hmm growing hair long means a lot of maintenance, how do women find the time every mornings ... where are we, ah finally the part where we wish ... bla bla bla ... few more seconds ... 5 4 3 2 1 I'm done. Hooray!!"

    Grin

    PS: Reference for those positions: http://muslim-canada.org/salaat.html


    I would do more of a...

    Sitting there thinking about life, what I'm going to do tomorrow, or imagining a different life, then I hear some movement and get quickly into one of the positions and carry on from there. Once the coast is clear, I would sit back down and resume thinking. Sometimes I'd even pause and go and ask about a certain surah, if mum would help me at that part because I couldn't remember it (even though I wasn't actually praying, but just to make it more believable.)

    ^That was when I would 'pray' in the other room, before that it would have to be next to mum because I couldn't remember some of the surahs to recite.

    Then I moved to my room, that was when I pretended to know the parts I didnt, then I had the freedom to be in my room and not pray/read a book, draw or whatever. I even at one stage left my room door open, just to show I did pray in my room. Smiley

    ^Those prays were only during ramadan months.

    Then to freedom - I just stopped pretending at one point. When mum would ask/nag, I would lie sometimes that I had, but then finally if she'd ask, I would just say no.

    Last ramadan she never asked, or maybe once, not sure, she didn't nag about it though.

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #246 - August 09, 2010, 10:38 PM

    It's amazing how I still remember every detail of the procedure.

     dance
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #247 - August 09, 2010, 10:44 PM


    Then to freedom - I just stopped pretending at one point. When mum would ask/nag, I would lie sometimes that I had, but then finally if she'd ask, I would just say no.

    Last ramadan she never asked, or maybe once, not sure, she didn't nag about it though.


    Interesting. It must be heart braking for devout mothers to see their kids growing up and not praying like they should. But the way they can be lenient, and at a deeper level come to a little bit of terms that their kids are different and when they are not brutally forceful about it - it just goes to show one thing ... deep down a mother's love can override Islam.
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #248 - August 09, 2010, 10:45 PM

    When my dad forces me to pray, he also likes to somehow give additional critique.

    Either about how I'm not in the most perfect position, or he wants to hear me actually whispering the prayer, or he wants me to make a personal and sincere da'wah afterwards, etc.

    I have yet to perfect my showmanship. >_<             

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    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #249 - August 09, 2010, 10:51 PM

    Interesting. It must be heart braking for devout mothers to see their kids growing up and not praying like they should. But the way they can be lenient, and at a deeper level come to a little bit of terms that their kids are different and when they are not brutally forceful about it - it just goes to show one thing ... deep down a mother's love can override Islam.


    Mm, I love my mum, although she's said some horrible things to me, she's a good person. I think she said those out of real fear, that I'll burn and be tortured in hell for eternity. My mum is strong too, she's been through a lot of hardship in her life.

    I love it when we watch something funny together, or sometimes before we'd tell each other funny stories that we heard or just casual talk about something that'd seem funny and laugh to the point it'd be hard to breathe.

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #250 - August 09, 2010, 10:53 PM

    it just goes to show one thing ... deep down a mother's love can override Islam.

    Yep, my mum proves it too. My mum is as religious as any mum could be, but she has learned to accept it and  now casually even calls me a kaffir  mysmilie_977

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #251 - August 10, 2010, 12:53 AM

    Interesting. It must be heart braking for devout mothers to see their kids growing up and not praying like they should. But the way they can be lenient, and at a deeper level come to a little bit of terms that their kids are different and when they are not brutally forceful about it - it just goes to show one thing ... deep down a mother's love can override Islam.


    yea same here. She barely ever bothers me anymore. She will nag about fasting but not any more about the prayers. Go Mom !

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #252 - August 10, 2010, 03:52 AM

    Oh god! The prayer where I live is so fricken long! 19 hours of no food or water. Can anyone survive that?

    Your ego is so out of whack that it will do whatever it can to protect itself. And people with a messed up ego can do these mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're awesome when really, they're just douchebags!-->Kyle Brolovski
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #253 - August 10, 2010, 04:12 AM

    There's no way around it. Fasting just plain old stinks. Tongue

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #254 - August 10, 2010, 09:27 AM

    We need to compile a list of food that can be snuck and eaten easily.
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #255 - August 10, 2010, 09:36 AM

    OK, I will start...

    Dates. Yes, as ironic as it is, I think dates are the best food to sneak in, considering their size, and also the fact that they're not chewy or crunchy either, which makes eating them really easy and quick. They're also full of carbs and are quite fulfilling. The only problem, though, is the seeds. If you can find stuff with no seeds, that's the way to go. If not, hide the seeds somewhere till after iftar. I think a serving of fives individual dates would be a good snack.

    Almonds. If you've eaten almonds regularly, you'll know how magically stuffing they are. They're also rich in protein and good fats. And they don't have any seeds, so they don't leave any traces. My advice is to have a big bag of almonds stashed somewhere in your room, so that you don't have to worry about trash every day. A handful of almonds should be enough for a few hours.
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #256 - August 10, 2010, 10:12 AM

    I'm going to fast. I need to lose weight, and I love being starved before the big feast (even though I have to be careful with what I eat and how much). And I love cooking during Ramadan and I associate fasting with positive things. Of course, since the day is so long and hot, I'll probably have a drink of water if I feel too thirsty, but that's about it.

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    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #257 - August 10, 2010, 11:02 AM


    Naerys, a question :

    I suppose the preparation of the meal starts in good time before it is so dark that you cannot tell a white thread from a black one so that it is ready the minute you are allowed to break the fast.

    However, when you prepare a meal, you need to taste it to see if it needs more, salt, peppar, whatever, but then you in fact break the fast. Is the seasoning left to the very last minute ?

    Anyhow, it must be hard if you are faint with hunger to prepare a meal and not be able to sample it.

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #258 - August 10, 2010, 11:21 AM

    my mother used to get people who werent fasting to sample the food

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #259 - August 10, 2010, 12:02 PM

    Merely tasting the food is permissible according to most sects, I believe.  Smiley

    http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546206
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    First of all, it is to be noted that eating is different from tasting. It is not necessary for anyone to swallow something in order to taste it. It is the front part of the tongue that tastes.

    Therefore, it is permissible for a fasting person to taste the food, if necessary, and his fast is still valid so long as he does not deliberately swallow anything of it.

    Read more: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546206#ixzz0wCh3VJy3


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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #260 - August 10, 2010, 12:05 PM

    Taste but dont eat? That is food tasting teasing...  whistling2

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #261 - August 10, 2010, 12:18 PM


    Well, that solves the problem of accidentally getting water in your mouth while swimming doesn´t it ? I mean, so long as you don´t swallow it, you are OK.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #262 - August 10, 2010, 01:07 PM


     Huh?

    Never heard of that. WTF?!
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #263 - August 10, 2010, 01:25 PM

    Three words.  Edible prayer rug.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #264 - August 10, 2010, 01:48 PM

    Dates. Yes, as ironic as it is, I think dates are the best food to sneak in, considering their size, and also the fact that they're not chewy or crunchy either, which makes eating them really easy and quick. They're also full of carbs and are quite fulfilling. The only problem, though, is the seeds. If you can find stuff with no seeds, that's the way to go. If not, hide the seeds somewhere till after iftar. I think a serving of fives individual dates would be a good snack.

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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #265 - August 10, 2010, 02:00 PM

    Naerys, a question :

    I suppose the preparation of the meal starts in good time before it is so dark that you cannot tell a white thread from a black one so that it is ready the minute you are allowed to break the fast.

    However, when you prepare a meal, you need to taste it to see if it needs more, salt, peppar, whatever, but then you in fact break the fast. Is the seasoning left to the very last minute ?

    Anyhow, it must be hard if you are faint with hunger to prepare a meal and not be able to sample it.


    Indeed, we start preparing the meal about four hours before Iftar. Like IsLame said, we get someone who isn't fasting (I have two sisters and one of us is bound to be on her period at any given time) to taste it. If that's not possible, we'll go ahead with the cooking and after the call for prayer we either add whatever is missing, or we find a way to make it taste better (if it's too salty my mother adds sugar).

    As for feelign faint, when it happens I just lie down. But it happens very rarely because nobody works a lot in Ramadhan and we all leave work at around 15:30. A few years ago I thought my faith in God was making me strong, but it turns out it's just a challenge to myself that I usually win.

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    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #266 - August 10, 2010, 02:01 PM

    Three words.  Edible prayer rug.


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    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #267 - August 10, 2010, 02:36 PM

    Three words.  Edible prayer rug.

     Cheesy
  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #268 - August 10, 2010, 02:37 PM


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  • Re: How to survive Ramadan?!
     Reply #269 - August 10, 2010, 03:31 PM

    I think she said those out of real fear, that I'll burn and be tortured in hell for eternity.


    Yes indeed, my mum berates me a lot and it gets serious sometimes! I think “Hmm, bless her, she’s in fear.” . Then a few hours later I’d make it all up by saying something that makes her laugh, giving her a lift to somewhere or doing some housework and I’m back on a clean slate again.

    Yep, my mum proves it too. My mum is as religious as any mum could be, but she has learned to accept it and  now casually even calls me a kaffir  mysmilie_977


    Oh nice one! Positive cognitive dissonance  Afro
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