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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #210 - June 02, 2010, 12:52 PM

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    Yeah and that is why they went in with paintball guns.

    No., no.,  they went with paintball guns, rubber bullets and with REAL GUNS.  when crowd starts with water canons,  chairs and ship rods  against soldiers, what will a hyped up and trained soldiers in the war zone on a ship at 4 AM will do?  they act instantaneously and pull the guns and  shoot..

    The better thing to do is, the moment they saw the soldiers, the peace activist should have SAT on the deck SING some Allah/Jesus/Moses/Muhammad songs   And..and TAPE EVERYTHING...  these idiots didn't go with tapes?? After all some them were Journalists..

    and let the soldiers do whatever they want..  then the story would have been different..

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #211 - June 02, 2010, 12:58 PM


    Yes, I know that, beside the paintball guns, they also carried side arms, but that is not how you would have expected them to be armed if they went in to kill as many as possible.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #212 - June 02, 2010, 01:01 PM

    Yes, I know that, beside the paintball guns, they also carried side arms, but that is not how you would have expected them to be armed if they went in to kill as many as possible.

    Oh I see., This forum to me is so difficult to understand  and some are so smart here , Many posts  I have to read thrice to figure out who is speaking straight and who is speaking sarcastic dear  Paloma

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #213 - June 02, 2010, 01:06 PM

    Anyone who doesn't think Israel used this opportunity to intimidate activists providing help for Palestinians is deluded. Even if there were terrorists on board the ship, raiding ships at night isn't the best way to deal with them when there are innocents involved. The only reason it was done the way it was done is to scare off aid.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #214 - June 02, 2010, 01:17 PM

    Anyone who doesn't think Israel used this opportunity to intimidate activists providing help for Palestinians is deluded. Even if there were terrorists on board the ship, raiding ships at night isn't the best way to deal with them when there are innocents involved. The only reason it was done the way it was done is to scare off aid.

    well,   Aid is not the name of the game in this tragedy., if it was strictly aid then they would have gone with only ships NOT WITH  700 PEOPLE on them and there are 100 ways to send the aid to the people of Gaza. Yes., if you go as ACTIVIST( not as peace activists carrying aid), then you are trying to make a political statement for the world., Then you should have left the soldiers to do whatever they want.

    Again,  sit tight on deck eat  snacks and sing songs + VIDEO TAPE EVERYTHING.. May be every one on ship  would have undressed be naked  for soldiers...

    why go with hot blood hyper brain along water canons, ship rods and chairs at soldiers??

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #215 - June 02, 2010, 01:22 PM

    Anyone who doesn't think Israel used this opportunity to intimidate activists providing help for Palestinians is deluded. Even if there were terrorists on board the ship, raiding ships at night isn't the best way to deal with them when there are innocents involved. The only reason it was done the way it was done is to scare off aid.

    Not so much to scare off aid but to prevent anyone thinking they could break the blockade, which is not quite the same thing. Mind you I do think some of the restrictions the Israelis impose on aid are ridiculous, like banning common building materials because they could be used to build tunnels. The Gazans already have stacks of tunnels. What they need are building repairs, and a lot of that need is due to the IDF blowing things up not so long ago.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #216 - June 02, 2010, 01:42 PM

    That Harvard Graduat  Zeenia Satti  writes on this tragedy

    Israel's 'overkill' at http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=242546
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    The Israeli naval massacre at the Gaza Freedom Flotilla is an act of "overkill," a calculated strategic manoeuvre in a volatile environment. It has sparked outrage in the Muslim world. The US, and regional incumbents who are allied with Washington in its battles, will find themselves at the receiving end of this renewed political rage. Israel considers a showdown between the United States and the Islamic world as a strategic win for itself.

    In fact it is., without that 9/11 and without US of A going in to Iraq and Afghanistan, Israel would have been in trouble. And that unfortunate deaths on high seas is NOT a  an act of "overkill" but STUPIDITY from both sides irrespective of the political activity behind these unfortunate deaths.
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    This scripted move must be analyzed against the larger political developments in the Middle East and elsewhere. The US Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, had succeeded in getting Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas to agree to US-mediated proximity peace talks with Israel. For the talks to succeed, Israel will have to halt the construction of settlements in Jerusalem. Abbas is scheduled to travel to Washington on June 9 for the continuation of the peace talks. Although he said on Monday that there was no need for the talks to be cancelled, the outrage in Gaza will likely deprive him of the public support he would have carried to Washington had the naval massacre not taken place. The event not only complicates his political situation, it imperils the entire US effort in this direction.

    All that is nothing to do with this tragedy and that present Turkish Govt  trying to place itself a leader of Islamic world.

    In Yemen, meanwhile, the civil war entered a peace phase on May 24 when Sanaa, commemorating the merger of the former North and South Yemen on May 22, 1990, declared an amnesty for all imprisoned Southern separatists and Northern Houthi rebels. In a televised speech, President Ali Abdullah Saleh expressed the hope that the freed rebels will go on to being good citizens. While all sides in Yemen hailed the amnesty as the final step in ending the civil war that has rocked the country since 2004, the fragility of the Yemeni political landscape renders it highly susceptible to regional events. The renewed rage caused by the Flotilla massacre and by the predictable lukewarm US response to it could rock the Yemeni peace process once again. Given the massive US military build-up in the Arabian Peninsula, the fires stoked by Monday's naval massacre could very well envelope the area and draw the US troops further deep into the crisis there.

    In Afghanistan, the Karzai government is all set to hold a peace jirga to end the conflict and discuss the shape of post-war Afghanistan. President Obama wants no such deal with the "Taliban" just yet. The Jirga is to be guarded by twelve thousand security forces, which speaks volumes for the fragility of the process. Pakistan is engaged in Orakzai agency and plans to launch an offensive in North Waziristan as well, which might be soon enough, given America's pressure. Needless to mention, the army's success depends on public support, within Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in particular.

    Israel is quite accustomed to periodic global isolation on the public level, of the kind resulting from Monday's act. But it is US support that matters most to Israel. The naval massacre is not likely to swing the pivotal American support in the opposite direction. In the long run, it is Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Palestine that are going to be adversely affected by such acts of overkill. The region-wide public outrage will complicate the political situation. As peace processes crumble under the weight of popular fury, the US military might come to exercise even greater role as the final arbiter of all matters political. Israel hopes to gain long-term strategic benefit from such a development.

    yes,... yes.. dear Zeenia Satti., Every where in Islamic world we have problems, North and South Yemen is a problem, Iran is a problem,  Karzai is a problem, Taliban is problem, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is a problem, Pakistan, Yemen and Palestine  is problem.,

    But these problems come for different reasons that is nothing to do with with these boats and aids., Why mix everything in one and blame US OF A or Juice??

    What about our responsibility?? when do we grow up?? let me send you e-mail along with is link..  The writer is consultant analyst of energy geopolitics based in Washington DC. Email: zeenia.satti@post.harvard.edu

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #217 - June 02, 2010, 01:49 PM

    Experts say Gaza convoy raid may boost militancy



    Outrage at a lethal Israeli raid on a Gaza aid flotilla could radicalize youths in Western-based Muslim communities already unsettled by the West's military record in Afghanistan and Iraq, security experts say.

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    Whatever the detailed context and facts of the clash, it is the killing by Israeli forces of nine activists that dominates perceptions of the incident among Muslims, for whom the Palestinian cause is dear, analysts and Muslim commentators say.

    Revulsion at the bloodshed on a Turkish vessel sailing to the Palestinian enclave could translate into increased fund-raising for transnational militant groups like al Qaeda or like-minded allies, or foster tolerance or even sympathy for such groups among Muslims who are not otherwise ideological.

    In some cases, it could push passive al Qaeda sympathizers into active participation against Israel or its Western allies, and undermine the international cooperation needed for tracking down illicit funding of militant groups, they said.


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    "For al Qaeda it doesn't get any better than this. It's really very dangerous," said Noman Benotman, a UK-based Libyan analyst and a former associate of Osama bin Laden.

    He noted al Qaeda's online propaganda experts are adept at recycling footage of Middle East violence to incite followers.

    Peter Neumann, Director of the Center for the Study of Radicalisation at King's College, London University, said the incident could prove to be a "tipping point" similar to the publication of U.S. abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison, credited by analysts with deepening Arab and Muslim opposition to Western intervention in Iraq.

    "I'd expect a significant impact from this on radicalisation," he told

     

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    "Whatever the facts are, whoever is responsible for the violence, this will play on people's perceptions. Psychologists call it a tipping point that can push someone from passive mode into active mode."

    Attacks on London's transport system in 2005 by four young suicide bombers highlighted the danger of radicalisation among alienated young men from disadvantaged immigrant districts in Britain. Europe's deadliest Islamist militant attack occurred in Madrid in 2004 when bombs on commuter trains killed 191.

    While radicalisation of young Muslim citizens has been a concern in Europe for years, a Pakistani-American's failed bid to set off a car bomb in New York's Times Square on May 1 has raised fears that the United States is just as vulnerable to violence from immigrants as other Western countries.

    Well I sincerely hope EXPERTS ARE WRONG., and the peace activist along with the BUMS who were the in-charge of that IDF action in high seas learn lessons think about the mistakes they did.
     
    read it all at http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6512VD20100602

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #218 - June 02, 2010, 02:00 PM

    A British activist last night claimed he was badly injured

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7795664/British-activist-claims-he-was-injured-during-Israeli-raid-on-flotilla.html



     
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    Hasan Nowarah, a computer engineer, says he was hurt when Israeli troops boarded his vessel. Hasan Nowarah was the first of 42 Britons detained in Israel to be allowed to return home after their vessels were boarded in international waters.

    The 45-year-old alleged that around 50 Israeli soldiers stormed the ship he was aboard and overpowered crew and passengers with paintball guns. Israel insists its troops responded after being met with extreme violence on boarding the Mavi Marmara, being beaten with metal poles and other weapons. A video released by the authorities appeared to show commandos being attacked.

    Mr Nowarah, a computer engineer, admits pushing one of the soldiers in defence of a fellow passanger but says he was left with torn ligaments in his right leg after being hit with the butt of a rifle.
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    Speaking from his home in Glasgow, he told The Daily Telegraph: “We were completely swamped by soldiers.

    “They came alongside us in boats and as soon as they boarded our ship they started hitting us.

    “We were trying to push them back but they started shooting us with paintball guns. Some people were shot in the face.”

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    “I went on this aid mission because I felt it was my duty to help the people of Palestine. Israel’s actions are totally unacceptable. The way we have been treated is nothing short of piracy.”



    Huh?? BADLY INJURED??  and you are running around London in two days?   what you are doing then??  Stay in Hospital.,   Playing Islamic Politics??

     

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #219 - June 02, 2010, 02:07 PM

    Article:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06/02/2010-06-02_raid_vid_fortifies_israelis_defiance.html

    Has a video of pro-Palestinian protesters in Manhattan, and pro-Israeli supporters in Manhattan also. Interesting points, I can't sympathise with either side because I think there are both Palistinean people and the Israeli government and some people with blood on their hands...

    I think Israel should have the right to defend themselves, and rightfully so because of their location and whatnot. I just can't sympathise with certain things that the Israeli government does. You'd hope for a more peaceful future. :\
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #220 - June 02, 2010, 02:23 PM


    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #221 - June 02, 2010, 02:31 PM

    Did they have time to wait until daylight? Wouldn't the ships have docked by that time?

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #222 - June 02, 2010, 02:36 PM

    Israelis impose on aid are ridiculous, like banning common building materials because they could be used to build tunnels.

    used to build bunkers.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #223 - June 02, 2010, 03:22 PM

    Murder on the high seas sparks global outrage   says news
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    Four of the nine killed by Israeli commandos aboard the Mavi Marmara were Turkish citizens. Three of the six ships in the Free Gaza Freedom Flotilla were Turkish. Some of those who were on board the vessels included a Holocaust survivor and a survivor of the U.S.S. Liberty. The journalists aboard the ships were armed with video cameras, cell phones, and Internet connections.

    For Turkey, this was their 9/11. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu met with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Tuesday morning and said,

        We expect full solidarity with us. It should not be a choice between Turkey and Israel. It should be a choice between right and wrong.

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    One of the other ships was the MV Rachel Corrie from Ireland. The vessel was named in memory of the American peace activist Rachel Corrie, who was bull dozed to death on March 16, 2003 in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip by an Israeli soldier operating the American made Caterpillar D9 bulldozer. These are not run of the mill bull dozers. They were designed to level towns like the Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank, which the Israelis flattened between April 3 and 11, 2002. Corrie was an American citizen and 23-years-old when murdered. Israel’s response to Corrie’s death was an expression of “regret.”


    IHH, an Islamic charity, sponsored the flotilla mission to Gaza. In the past, IHH has helped Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya. The convoy’s mission was widely covered in the Turkish media.
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    One Turkish journalist reported live as the Israeli assault unfolded, and pleaded,

        These savages are killing people here, please help.

    That broadcast ended with an Israeli commando’s voice shouting in Hebrew,

        Everybody shut up!


    That Israeli assault broadcast into Turkey and across the Internet resulted in world wide public outrage. In Istanbul on Monday, protestors chanted, “Damn Israel!” and “An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. Revenge, revenge!”

    Israel’s ambassador to Turkey Gabi Levi was recalled, but stayed with the embassy staff. Turks protested in front of the Israeli consulate in Istanbul. Turks staged a sit in in front of the ambassador’s residence in Ankara.

    ........


     
    Read the rest at http://www.examiner.com/x-46119-DC-Business-Commentary-Examiner~y2010m6d2-Murder-on-the-high-seas-sparks-global-outrage


    yes..yes..  IHH, an Islamic charity, sponsored the flotilla mission to Gaza. In the past, IHH has helped Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya.

    Indeed IHH Islamic charity helped Muslims of Bosnia, Chechnya, Afghanistan so much every one is in college and every family happily driving cars..

    yes ..yes.. “An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. Revenge, revenge!”    that will solve the problem..  wonderful charity..

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #224 - June 02, 2010, 03:38 PM

    These are interesting Videos at the  Starting of those ships..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeKtcHIbMjY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJJTSAyPubE

    That guy is leader of that trip..  He is more responsible for those 9  death., He knew well that Israel is going to stop those Boats..    He says HE WILL NEVER COME BACK to Turkey....  He is STUPIDEST  TURKISH MUSLIM I ever heard.. this interview was a day before the IDF soldiers went on board..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEyAYC-r7Gc&NR=1

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #225 - June 02, 2010, 03:59 PM

    There you Go IDF is Hitting Hard..

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    Attackers of the IDF Soldiers Found Without Identification Papers:

    In a special meeting of the Security Cabinet it was disclosed that a group of 40 people on board the Mavi Marmara was found with no identification papers. Moreover, they were equipped with bullet proof vests, night-vision goggles, and weapons. 

    On board the Mavi Marmara ship that arrived as part of the flotilla to Gaza was a group of approximately 40 people with no identification papers. This was disclosed by the Israeli Security Cabinet, which gathered on Tuesday evening (June 1) for a special meeting.

    According to intelligence disclosed during that meeting, these protesters wore bullet-proof vests, and carried with them night-vision goggles, weapons, and large sums of cash.  Each person in this group had the exact same amount of cash in his pockets.  While the rest of protestors was sent to the lower deck during the Shayetet Naval Special Force's interception of the ship, the group divided into cells and remained on the upper deck in order to attack the soldiers...


    Well Propaganda  from both sides., it takes time and research to figure out who is telling truth   read it all at http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/today/10/06/0201.htm

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #226 - June 02, 2010, 04:12 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypY5Pq0J5Jk

    There you go,  we are back to shouting Allah ho Akbar on those ships.. .,

     It is Ok to say with-in person or inside home., But any time the Crowd shouts  "Allah ho Akbar"  in public  I see Allah, Islamic History and History my own family...

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #227 - June 02, 2010, 04:20 PM

    Damn.. we still don't know How many got killed??


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZenysNLAfc8

    9, 18 ?? 20??  Who are the in-charge of these ships??  do they even know how many were there on those    Ships??

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU1EAFshLv0

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #228 - June 02, 2010, 04:35 PM



    Ann Wright The Famous lady talks  on that Mavi Marmara Ship

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppCxVDHPpcc

    Quote
    Mary Ann Wright (born 1947) is a retired United States Army colonel and retired official of the U.S. State Department, known for her outspoken opposition to the Iraq War. She is most noted for having been one of three State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the March 2003 invasion of Iraq. Wright earned a Master's Degree in National Security Affairs from the U.S. Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island and later participated in reconstruction efforts after U.S. military actions in Grenada and Somalia.

    Wright was stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, from 1982 to 1984. One of her duties during that time was to draw up contingency plans for invading several countries, one of which was Iraq. She would later express dismay over what she considered the dismissal of such carefully laid plans in the actual invasion of Iraq in 2003.


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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #229 - June 02, 2010, 04:41 PM


    American News...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gFhb0Spsmk

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #230 - June 02, 2010, 05:06 PM

     Discussion at  UN   Gaza' Flotilla

    Turkey urges UN to punish Israel for raid on Gaza Flotilla
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MUXxLerFsY

    Other representatives
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHFlP6dpNaM

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #231 - June 02, 2010, 05:15 PM

    PAS condemns attack on humanitarian aid convoy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2YZ5AIQkd4

    How do you know 20 killed.. you fools don't know the list and names  of people who were on those ships...

    Look at these MALAYSIAN IDIOTS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP0mAhDmfLE

    What  a brain., wants to slash his neck... Islamic way of protesting..

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #232 - June 02, 2010, 05:28 PM

    Freed activists speaks Israeli version of attack on Gaza aid flotilla


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxodCEqFmaA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W1h23xaPvU

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #233 - June 02, 2010, 11:39 PM

    used to build bunkers.

    Yes I know it can be used to build bunkers. It can also be used to build hospitals. That is why it is classified under "building materials", right?

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #234 - June 03, 2010, 12:02 AM

    Did they have time to wait until daylight? Wouldn't the ships have docked by that time?

    Good point. From what I've read it seems the boarding was done forty miles off the coast. This would normally be in international waters but there is a provision for any country to extend their naval zone up to 68 miles off the coast if they feel there is a threat of any sort. Apparently the law on exactly when and why you can do this is not at all clear, however the Israelis do appear to have informed the convoy that they were doing this. This means that since the law isn't all that clear the claim that the boarding was effectively piracy or an act of war against a foreign vessel may not stand up in court. The Israelis will be able to make a good case that they were acting legally in boarding. 

    So, a reasonable estimate for the speed of the convoy would be around ten knots. If the boarding was forty miles off the cost then that leaves four hours or so until they reach harbour. Maybe a bit more, depending on what angle they are approaching the coast. So yes, the Israelis would have had limited time to act. There would only be an eight to ten hour window in total from the time the ships entered the extended naval zone until the time they reached port, and it seems that all of that window would have been at night.

    What that means in turn is that the people running the convoy must have decided they wanted to be boarded at night, bearing in mind that they knew perfectly well that they would be boarded at some point and they had control over the course and speed of their ships.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #235 - June 03, 2010, 12:17 AM

     
    Good point. From what I've read it seems the boarding was done forty miles off the coast. This would normally be in international waters but there is a provision for any country to extend their naval zone up to 68 miles off the coast if they feel there is a threat of any sort. Apparently the law on exactly when and why you can do this is not at all clear, however the Israelis do appear to have informed the convoy that they were doing this. This means that since the law isn't all that clear the claim that the boarding was effectively piracy or an act of war against a foreign vessel may not stand up in court. The Israelis will be able to make a good case that they were acting legally in boarding. 

    After reading that and after watching this  Viva Palestina

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSJpcUqFq_Y


    I say two things.,

    1). Yvonne Ridley Should become Calipha of All Muslims across the world

    2). Juice  teneticals are spread everywhere  even into  osmanthus head..

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #236 - June 03, 2010, 06:46 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbOw6ZFl6FE
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #237 - June 03, 2010, 07:04 AM

    Interview with one of the activists who were detained by Israel, and with Norman Finkelstein, offering some analysis:

    http://www.grittv.org/2010/06/01/norman-finkelstein-huwaida-arraf-israel-gaza-flotilla/
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #238 - June 03, 2010, 08:52 AM

    Israelis are murdering, thieving, lying, bastards.

    They cannot be challenged because they are powerful and have the support of more powerful white nations.
    (More hypocritical, murdering, thieving, lying, bastards!)

    Opologists, ... please continue with your feeble excuses.
    If you make enough excuses you might be able to eventually convince yourself.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #239 - June 03, 2010, 09:11 AM

    ^^butthurt much?
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