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Reply #30 - June 22, 2010, 12:52 AM

I can do the Italian accent better than her, y0!

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Reply #31 - June 22, 2010, 12:54 AM

Wtf! Did I just watch a video that disappeared from this thread? :|

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Reply #32 - June 22, 2010, 12:54 AM

I am drinking wine, no more tricks please, or I freak out! lol :S

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Reply #33 - June 22, 2010, 12:56 AM

Ah!
deusvult edited it out.

I thought alcohol made me hallucinate badly lol

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Reply #34 - June 22, 2010, 12:56 AM

Quote from: Saathiya on June 21, 2010, 11:49 PM
I should try it....but I cant do it alone...anyone wanna join me?

nude in public? hell yeah....
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Reply #35 - June 22, 2010, 01:13 AM

The only people in the world who have no accent are American Midwesterners. I mean of course they have an accent that's called the Midwest accent but it's so generic that many identify it as the norm.

Here is a very interesting video about the subject (if you don't have 4 minutes, watch from 2:39) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kW3K3OclnE
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Reply #36 - June 23, 2010, 10:19 PM

Quote from: RIBS on June 19, 2010, 06:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8R2XLqvA3s&feature=youtube_gdata

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Reply #37 - June 23, 2010, 10:36 PM

Quote from: DARKEYED9 on June 19, 2010, 05:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2_viUlzHzQ

Bravo!

When you do a new video, start a new thread on it!

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Reply #38 - June 23, 2010, 11:53 PM

I watching ALL of your vids, darkeyed!!!! woo hoo! you have a wonderful poetic way about
you! I LOVE the "testing 1, 2, 3" especially! absolutely beutiful!

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Reply #39 - June 24, 2010, 12:09 AM

hanan... what an amazing experience that must have been for you!
Yes, the sun and wind in your hair DOES feel good, and certainly nothing
snful about it! I hope you get the chance to go to the pacific ocean one
day, and play in the waves, and feel the sea breeze, and watch the most
amazing sunsets on the water. There is so much life for you to experience
and explore, and to enrich yourself with!

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Reply #40 - June 24, 2010, 01:58 AM

Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on June 22, 2010, 12:29 AM
Shut up or I'll honor kill you both.

You love me that much...that's just so sweet... .

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Reply #41 - June 24, 2010, 02:39 AM

This isn't ordinary love. This is Muslim love. Yeah baby Muslim love.
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Reply #42 - June 24, 2010, 03:11 AM

Quote from: DreamWeaver on June 23, 2010, 11:53 PM
I watching ALL of your vids, darkeyed!!!! woo hoo! you have a wonderful poetic way about
you! I LOVE the "testing 1, 2, 3" especially! absolutely beutiful!

Aw thank you! Apparently, I have a "very emotional voice." I don't know if that's a good or bad thing lol.

HEY! I wanted to start a new thread but it's kind of a "useless thread."

LADIES: Well since I don't wear the hijab anymore, I want to do something to my hair! I have dark, curly hair that passes my shoulders a little and I want to add some color to it but I want to look good... Suggestions?! Maybe some highlights but which color?
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Reply #43 - June 24, 2010, 03:20 AM

You can also go on youtube and see how people do different hairstyles.
I love youtube. I sometimes just watch people do make-up on youtube.
i'm personally not big on hairstyles but youtube is the next best thing to a real person.

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Reply #44 - June 25, 2010, 05:41 PM

Darkeyed... my niece has the same problem. (her dad is jpns) she has jet black hair
and some of the "cool" colors wound up looking like crap, and she had to dye it back, black.
Go to a decent beauty shop and ask them what would work bet on black hair FIRST, and
then choose the color you like most. They might even have pics to show you, how various
colors might look on you.

IA in one anthro class, we studied "American Accents" and one would think the "southern accent"
sounded most illiterate, but truth was, the NorthEast accents were considered to be the least
"intelligent"

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Reply #45 - June 25, 2010, 05:55 PM

Being nude in public sounds very exciting. I wish I could try it, but I'm a big chicken and very self conscious about my ...... bits lol
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Reply #46 - July 01, 2010, 10:30 AM

Quote
Hanan_x3

I want to experience that feeling again.. it felt so like me. I felt ii was finally able to be myself...

I know how freedom feels...

That's really nice to hear....
I wish you will experience that feeling again and forever.
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Reply #47 - July 06, 2010, 11:37 PM

Incoming hair tips: it depends on your skin color. Dark hair dark eyes usually equals red highlights. Lighter skin color means you can experiment with blond. Subtle is best at first until you get more comfortable. Going professional is important. It is the difference between oh wow! And Oh you dyed your hair.

I've dated a lot of stylists.

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Reply #48 - July 06, 2010, 11:50 PM

Quote from: DARKEYED9 on June 21, 2010, 06:26 AM
Aw thanks! I didn't know the American accent was attractive. I think the British accent is hot *blushes*

Now you know!

I get weak in the knees with a scottish accent
and i like quiet men cuz they tend to be beasts when rolling in the
hay

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Reply #49 - July 06, 2010, 11:52 PM

coco... i once had sex with my boyfriend in a field along side a heavy traffic road LOL.
And it was raining too Both of us werent even thinking about anyone seeing us, and we
did take our clothes off LOL.

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Reply #50 - July 07, 2010, 12:08 AM

Thanks for the image JNT. I'm living with parents and won't get laid at least until September
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Reply #51 - July 07, 2010, 12:53 AM

LOL IA.. where there's a will theres a way

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Reply #52 - July 07, 2010, 01:28 AM

Quote from: Alecto on June 19, 2010, 06:16 AM
Congratulations!

I kinda sometimes wish I had worn it just to know what it would be like to take it off lol.

I imagine it would be like shaving your genitals
oh the freedom
I let it grow back for a while
then I shaved again
oh the freedom
never again will I suffer a hairy crotch

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Reply #53 - July 07, 2010, 11:39 AM

Quote from: Shadizar on July 07, 2010, 01:28 AM
I imagine it would be like shaving your genitals
oh the freedom
I let it grow back for a while
then I shaved again
oh the freedom
never again will I suffer a hairy crotch

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Reply #54 - July 07, 2010, 12:03 PM

Oh man, I know exactly how that feels.
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Reply #55 - September 24, 2010, 09:43 PM

Need advice !

I recently became fed up with religion of any kind including the one I converted in...Islam.A while back I decided to war hijab.Why? Don't ask me. It wasn't out of faith and conviction but I can not say why this idea came over me.Maybe because my friends wear it too,my mother-in law and sister in law as well...who knows..
Anyway,now I want to shed it and don't know how to go about it. I'm not afraid because my husband doesn't care about it at all,if I wear it or not and neither would my in laws say something but I'm worried of what they might think. I do want to maintain a good relationship with my in laws.
I live in the west so I can do whatever I want.I'm not arabic and wasn't born muslim,but my husband is. I'm "afraid" to make him sad if I come out and tell him how I feel about religion and Islam.
He's muslim,not rigid at all and has a healthy mentality : if you do something do it because you want to and believe in it not for other reasons.He even laughed when I decided to wear hijab and told me I will not last.
So now...what to do? All our friends and family have congratulated me and were so happy that I started wearing it. What will they say if all of a sudden I take it off?
I had a conversation with my mother-in law the other day and I said some thinks and at one point she looks at me smiling and says : So...now you're not muslim anymore?
I did not have the guts to tell her so I stammered some stupid answer that I have faith that there is a god but i don't like religion.

Last month I went to see my relatives in my home country (eastern europe) and I took of my hijab as soon as my husband droped me off at the airport.While there I went without it and in the last few days of my holiday I wore it in order to take some pictures with it outside so it wont seem strange that I came back with no pictures of me over there. Of course in the airport home I put it back on.I don't want to live this lie.
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Reply #56 - September 25, 2010, 12:34 AM

Hi Dia, why do you want to torture yourself? It should not be a problem if you live in the West, to take it off.

Have you read the Quran? How much do you know about Islam? Are you happy the way Islam treats women? Do you know how women are treated in Muslim countries, specially in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan?

Why there is no freedom of religion in Muslim countries? Do you know that in Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and many Muslim countries, Muslims who convert to other religions, legally, are subject to death penalty - like beheading or hanging? Many have been executed for reasons of apostasy.

Do you know that the testimony of a Muslim woman is worth half as much that of a Muslim man, in a court of law? The non-Muslim women are NOT allowed to testify in a court - why?

The list is very long. But for now this will do.

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Reply #57 - September 25, 2010, 12:37 AM

Hi Dia

I had some similar experiences. First, about your mother-in-law asking if you are no longer Muslim: Muslims would ask me quite often whether I was "still Muslim," especially if they hadn't seen me in awhile. I was a convert, and I suppose they asked because many converts leave Islam, but at the time it would infuriate me because Islam was important to me and I took it very seriously, and I felt that they weren't taking me seriously as a Muslim and trivialising my efforts. Of course, I eventually DID leave Islam, though possibly not for the reasons they expected. But with that in mind, and how your mother-in-law asked you, perhaps it wouldn't be a big deal for your husband's family if you stopped practicing. Maybe you don't need to mention that you are an outright kafir, just that you're not taking things so seriously.

And with that same idea, your husband already didn't expect you to keep up the hijab, so just take it off and admit he was right. I know we don't want to admit our man is right about something but it will be soon forgotten. As for your friends/inlaws who may be concerned, just tell them you thought you were ready for hijab, but you are finding it difficult and you don't want to be a hypocrite, so you are taking it off for now. I too went through a phase like that. When I first converted I wore the hijab for a few months before I realized it just wasn't me, so I stopped wearing it. Everyone understood and were really nice about it.

It sounds like you are pretty fortunate with an easy-going husband. Hope you don't have too much trouble getting him and his family to accept a different version of you

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Reply #58 - September 28, 2010, 09:01 PM

+1 at what Luthiel said.

Dia, your husband said:
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if you do something do it because you want to and believe in it not for other reasons

There is nothing stopping you from using this very same reasoning for taking off the hijab. I was in a similar situation a few years ago myself and although my ex was disappointed as he believes that hijab is mandatory he understood that he couldn't compell me to wear it but the most important reason I used w/o coming out as a murtad was that I no longer felt I was wearing hijab for Allah but to please dear hubbie. He couldn't argue with that!

Perhaps a similar approach with your hubbie and in-laws will reap rewards since it seems they are pretty easy going about these matters.

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Reply #59 - October 05, 2010, 05:20 AM

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Hanan, read about the origin of the scarf/hijab and you will be amazed that it is not really mentioned in the Quran. In the quran it only says cover your boobs not your hair. It says cover your pockets which meant your cleavage (, as that's where they used to put things.

I'd be inclined to go with THOSE MUSLIMS WHO SAY OTHERWISE . Non-Muslim women are sometimes inveigled into Islam having been told that all that cumbersome clothing Muslim women have to wear (along with other indignities) aren't REALLY part of Islam but a product of "patriarchy" imposing its misogyny on what is in fact a woman-friendly religion that actually pre-empted western feminism by 1400 years. So it is important to thoroughly check such assertions as RIBS has made above and counter them if they prove fallacious.

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