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  • Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     OP - July 26, 2010, 06:53 PM

    A while ago, I came across the 'sticky thread' on the forum in regards to debunking various miracle claims of the Quran.
    Since then, I have taken the time to advance on this concept and create an entire youtube channel devoted to systematically debunking all claimed miracles and the central proponents of Islam who claim them, such as Harun yahya, zakir naik and yusuf estes.

    Each video is (often) only 1-2 minutes long and devoted to debunking each individual claim.
    Most videos include multiple translations (authorized versions from altafsir islamic education) and classical arabic.

    http://youtube.com/user/TheIslammiracle

    Ive constructed several playlists aswell, more videos coming soon and open to requests (all claimed miracles will be responded to eventually)
    Here are a list of the videos so far:-



    (also available in the 'miracles debunked' playlist)


    -The descent of iron Miracle
    -The Big bang in the Quran
    -The universe from Smoke
    -Ostrich Egg shaped Earth
    -Mountains prevent Earthquakes
    -The Sea Barrier
    -Finger prints miracle
    -The Pharoh
    -7 layers of Atmosphere
    -The Expanding Universe
    -Everything created in Pairs
    -Speed of Light in the Quran


    Biology in the Quran? : Part 1
    Biology in the Quran? : Part 2
    Biology in the Quran? : Part 3


    (Also available in the 'theislammiracle vs harun yahya: Evolution' playlist)

    -Round 1: "Species have remained the same for long periods of time"
    -Round 2: "Evolution can't prove how life began"
    -Round 3: "Evolution is only a theory"
    -Round 4:  Nebraska man
    -Round 5:  Piltdown man
    -Round 6:  The chance of life Emerging
    -Round 7:  The chance argument
    -Round 8+:  Genetic Mutations
                      (a) Mutations are harmful
                      (b) Mutations are never beneficial
                      (c) Mutations don't produce new Information
    Round 10: The Cambrian Explosion Refutes Evolution
                      (a)Complex life emerges Suddenly
                      (b) All major groups appear fully formed together
    Round 11: Evolution and the Atheistic Agenda
    Round 12: "There are no transitional fossils"
    Round 13: Demonstrating a down-right life from Harun Yahya


    Debunking Islam 1: "The universe is designed for life"
    Debunking Islam 2: "The Quran is a miracle in itself"
    Debunking Islam 3: "The Quran contains miraculous Information"
    Debunking Islam 4: "Only God could have done it"


    Questions for Anti-Evolutionist Muslims: Part 1
    Questions for Anti-Evolutionist Muslims: Part 2




    Debunking: Zakir Naik's : Dawah to an atheist

    The Islam Miracle vs Yusuf Estes: The Big Bang

    Refutation: Molecular Collapse of Evolution

    Was Muhammad a prophet? Part 1: Magic

    Islamic scam Techniques: Part 1: How to make a miracle

    The Truth abut Quranic Miracles

    Why the Quran lacks Credibility.

  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #1 - July 26, 2010, 06:57 PM

    Good, and welcome to CEMB.  Afro

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #2 - July 26, 2010, 06:58 PM

    thankyou  Smiley
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #3 - July 26, 2010, 07:01 PM

    Welcome. Smiley
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #4 - July 26, 2010, 07:02 PM

    Can someone sticky this thread?
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #5 - July 26, 2010, 07:06 PM

    welcome

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #6 - July 26, 2010, 07:47 PM

    Each video is (often) only 1-2 minutes long and devoted to debunking each individual claim.
    Most videos include multiple translations (authorized versions from altafsir islamic education) and classical arabic.

    http://youtube.com/user/TheIslammiracle


    Good work - the more youtube channels out there the better.

    Please tell us a little more about yourself, and if you like add a link to this forum from your profile http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?action=forum

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #7 - July 26, 2010, 07:55 PM

    Original comment, N/A anymore
    read one below  parrot
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #8 - August 02, 2010, 03:48 PM

    Just to let everyone know, I've now done a massive over-haul of the channel
    (It's merging with another groups channel,so I had to close it off and remake it all, so some of the videos are deleted  for the time being)

    A video on the subject is uploading.

    New channel design I've just added, compare it with the original.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheIslammiracle

    and I'm re-doing all of the videos into a better quality, new information, music, graphics, etc etc.
    (plus new videos coming soon)
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #9 - August 02, 2010, 04:43 PM

    Can anyone debunk the claim that the Quran refers to the dead sea is the lowest place on earth? 
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #10 - August 02, 2010, 04:48 PM

    yep.
    It will be in one of our next videos, but I will put a transcript of it in here a few days before that.

  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #11 - August 02, 2010, 04:51 PM

    your awesomeness is inspiring, mighty kitty!   Afro

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #12 - August 02, 2010, 05:01 PM

    I'm only here to bring clarity and logic to the world.

    We can all surpass the gods we're supposed to pray to...just need to bring the world into reality first, only them can my techno-utopia begin

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #13 - August 02, 2010, 05:22 PM

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    Can anyone debunk the claim that the Quran refers to the dead sea is the lowest place on earth? 

    yep.
    It will be in one of our next videos,
    but I will put a transcript of it in here a few days before that.


    mighty_cats.,  Where does Quran refer  the dead sea is the lowest place on earth ?? is it that "Al-Room" Surah-30??

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #14 - August 02, 2010, 05:33 PM

    yep.
    It will be in one of our next videos, but I will put a transcript of it in here a few days before that.




    Looking forward to that.  Smiley
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #15 - August 02, 2010, 05:34 PM


    mighty_cats.,  Where does Quran refer  the dead sea is the lowest place on earth ?? is it that "Al-Room" Surah-30??


    Yeah something about the romans (byzantium) and the persians having a battle.
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #16 - August 02, 2010, 05:56 PM

    Yeah something about the romans (byzantium) and the persians having a battle.

    but which  ayah in that  Surah 30   http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/030.qmt.html  say "  dead sea being the lowest place on earth"??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #17 - August 02, 2010, 06:13 PM

    Its supposed to be verse 3. That's interesting on the translations you provided its translated as "near" or "close" whilst those who claim this 'miracle' translate it as "lowest" interesting  yes
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #18 - August 02, 2010, 06:15 PM

    Its supposed to be verse 3. That's interesting on the translations you provided its translated as "near" or "close" whilst those who claim this 'miracle' translate it as "lowest" interesting  yes

     Well,   As usual that is  a Translation Problem..  I don't see any dead sea in that verse-3 surah-30

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #19 - August 02, 2010, 06:16 PM


    mighty_cats.,  Where does Quran refer  the dead sea is the lowest place on earth ?? is it that "Al-Room" Surah-30??


    It doesnt actually say lowest, the correct explanation is 'nearer'
    (it also doesnt give an original location , so 'nearer' could be anywhere)
    thats about 10% of the problems with the 'miracle verse'.
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #20 - August 02, 2010, 06:20 PM

    It doesnt actually say lowest, the correct explanation is 'nearer'
    (it also doesnt give an original location , so 'nearer' could be anywhere)
    thats about 10% of the problems with the 'miracle verse'.

    Well that is all good., but which Brain dead Muslim Zombie says that verse is a Miracle??  Give me the  Link  to that Muslim ..Please..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #21 - August 02, 2010, 06:26 PM

    Well that is all good., but which Brain dead Muslim Zombie says that verse is a Miracle??  Give me the  Link  to that Muslim ..Please..


    Who else but Harun Yahya.
    Just type in the relevant words into either google or youtube.

    http://www.hyahya.org/miracles_of_the_quran_p2_01.php#2
    etc etc
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #22 - August 02, 2010, 06:27 PM

    He should be arrested for preaching pseudo-science  finmad
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #23 - August 02, 2010, 06:34 PM

    Well that is all good., but which Brain dead Muslim Zombie says that verse is a Miracle??  Give me the  Link  to that Muslim ..Please..


    Who else but Harun Yahya.
    Just type in the relevant words into either google or youtube.

    http://www.hyahya.org/miracles_of_the_quran_p2_01.php#2
    etc etc

    Oh! that cross breed Ostrich_turkey..



    It must have been on Cocaine and his head in sand..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #24 - August 02, 2010, 06:36 PM

    If people were arrested for preaching pseudo-science , they're wouldn't be many theists left...

    Theres a video on youtube somewhere (quite popular but can't find it at the moment) where a muslim is explaining that oneday, the earth will stop spinning...and because 'the earths spin is like a spring', it will eventually start spinning the other way around, thus the sun will rise in the west as the Quran states (somewhere)

    Its absolutely insane, but what bothers me the most is the fact that none of the audience got up and left....its the blind,led by the blind, led by the bind, led by the liar...
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #25 - August 02, 2010, 06:41 PM

    Most theists don't preach nonsense they just believe it lol
  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #26 - August 02, 2010, 06:47 PM

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #27 - August 02, 2010, 06:48 PM

    Its absolutely insane, but what bothers me the most is the fact that none of the audience got up and left....its the blind,led by the blind, led by the bind, led by the liar...

    Spot on clap

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #28 - August 02, 2010, 06:54 PM

    Went to a wedding yesterday, and was accosted by another fruitcake Muslim, who claimed there was a secret zionist plot to bring philosophy to the Muslim world, in order to oust Islam.

    Its one conspiracy after the next, in order to defend the defenceless.  Yet the one conspiracy theory that they neglect is the one sitting right underneath their nose  wacko.  

    Even his 6 year old wife understood it, when Muhammed wanted more than the stipulated 4 wives, and Allah suddenly granted prophet a total of 7

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  • Re: Debunking all 'Quranic Miracles' here.
     Reply #29 - August 02, 2010, 07:07 PM

    Isn't there an entire section of a hadith where Muhammad cheats on his wives with a suspected slave/house maid
    and then after his wives become angered by it, he goes off into the desert in guilt, then comes back around 30 days later essentially stating..

    'god came to me and said that if you dont forgive me, you'll all go to hell, but if you do, you will go to heaven'.

    If anyone can give me some chapter verses, id' appreciate it.
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