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 Topic: Faith No More

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  • Faith No More
     OP - August 25, 2010, 07:19 PM

    Heya guys and gals, just a quick introduction.

    I am a 24 year old art student and Ex-Muslim in Manchester, UK. I love drum & bass music, irreverent art, movies, dancing, nights out, lazy Sundays. I probably smoke and drink too much, and I love a good bacon sandwich. My mother was of the first generation born here in UK into a large Sunni family from Pakistan. My father is half Indian, half white British, from a Hindu family. An interesting set up, you might say. Volatile and ill-fated from the start, most certainly.

    I renounced Islam a few years ago, though I do so much more freely only recently. I wholeheartedly reject the god of the Prophet’s dreams, desires and delusions, and I am proud to call myself an Atheist/Naturalist and an Apostate. This is in part due to my own journey under Islam; the unsatisfied questions in my heart, the prayers never answered, the suffocating and overbearing masculinity and arrogance, the stark contrast between my life and those who, mere streets away, could run and play and sing and dance with no fear or shame. And I, as a child from an illicit union, was hated in the womb. But most of all, I renounce religion because of the abuse my mother was subject to, by the family that should have loved her, protected her, cherished her. Out of respect for her privacy, I will share no more details. Just say, she protected me from the worst of it, and Allah should count her tears.

    Together we found the strength to be free from Islam, to become women, to make a new life. My mother is my hero, my inspiration, my best friend. I have her fire in me. I am thankful to her for this new chance. No pity for myself, no shame for who I am, no more fears, no more tears, and no regrets. Tried, tested, built to last - the sum of my parts. My mother and I are in a good place now. She is happy, and beautiful, with a new life. I have seen my father again after many years, and he is a good man, with a new wife and son. And as for me, I am in love. What more could I ask for? Like the phoenix, from death - life.

    Anyways, this is turning into a rant. Much love and respect to all who stand proud, no longer under Islam. I’m going to lurk and read a bit and get my bearings.

    Peace.

    x

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #1 - August 25, 2010, 07:21 PM

    Welcome Ishina far away hug

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #2 - August 25, 2010, 07:28 PM

    Welcome to the forum, Ishina. hugs

    Interesting story and well-written too.  Afro

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #3 - August 25, 2010, 07:44 PM

    Congrats on getting out the unhappiness you were subjected to, and welcome to the forum! BTW is your mother an apostate?

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #4 - August 25, 2010, 07:47 PM

    Welcome Ishina!  That was a very interesting story, sorry to hear about the tramatic childhood but congratulations on finding your freedom and yourself. Smiley  

    'The greatest glory of living lies not in never falling but in rising everytime you fall'
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #5 - August 25, 2010, 07:54 PM

    Thanks peeps  001_wub

    Yes, my mother rejects Islam for many of the same reasons as I.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #6 - August 25, 2010, 07:54 PM

    Inspirational story, Ishina. Welcome to the forum.  Smiley

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #7 - August 25, 2010, 07:55 PM

    Thanks peeps  001_wub

    Yes, my mother rejects Islam for many of the same reasons as I.


    Wow, that's fantastic.  I'm happy for both of you. Smiley

    'The greatest glory of living lies not in never falling but in rising everytime you fall'
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #8 - August 25, 2010, 08:05 PM

    welcome !  Smiley

    what store do u buy your bacon sandwiches from ?  piggy

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #9 - August 25, 2010, 08:11 PM

    I still haven't had bacon yet. Stupid religious conditioning!  sheikh

    I do plan on eating it before Ramadan is over.

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #10 - August 25, 2010, 08:12 PM

    Welcome!

    Thanks for sharing your story. Smiley

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  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #11 - August 25, 2010, 08:16 PM

    Welcome Ishina.  Smiley

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #12 - August 25, 2010, 08:21 PM

    There is this cafe just around the corner from my place that does the most divine bacon and egg buns. I sometimes have sausage and egg though, which are just as delish. I can't resist because I can smell the bacon frying as soon as I leave my front door in the morning. I go into a trance and follow the scent trail like a bloodhound. I think the cook adds addictives or something. I'm craving one even as I type this.

    Best one I ever had though was at a construction site in the city here. This guy had set up a shitty looking trailer and was selling breakfast buns out of it for the workers. I was stumbling home one morning and took a chance at a sausage and egg bun to sober me up a bit. WOW! Taste explosion! Juicy, seasoned Lincolnshire pork sausages, with that special alchemy of spices that makes your mouth water, with that sweet animal fat taste that makes vegetarians jealous, that you know is gonna give you a heart attack but tastes so damn goood. Fried egg, the ones that burst golden yolk in your mouth and it drips down your chin. Fresh baked bread buns, the soft, chewy, miss-shaped ones, not the processed ones you buy in supermarkets. And Daddy's brown sauce... fuuuck meeee!

    It was an orgasm in a bun. I went back again and again. I miss that guy...

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #13 - August 25, 2010, 08:27 PM

    Hello and welcome!  Smiley

    Bukhari 62:142 - Narrated Anas bin Malik:
       The Prophet used to pass by (have sexual relation with) all his wives in one night, and at that time he had nine wives.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #14 - August 25, 2010, 08:30 PM

    LOL! The thread title reminded me of this...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTT_sv8sV0




    And   signwelcome

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #15 - August 25, 2010, 08:32 PM

    Ahh, you got the reference Wink

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #16 - August 25, 2010, 08:36 PM

    I'm quick like that... Wink


    And,  I remember the first time it ever played on MTV.  grin12

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #17 - August 25, 2010, 08:51 PM

    Before my time I think  :(

    Probably my fave FNM tune:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6oKhMPemjY

    Mike Patton is such a sexy bastard 001_wub

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #18 - August 25, 2010, 08:52 PM

    I like this tune by FNM...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9X_msJ-7OI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    ...
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #19 - August 25, 2010, 09:22 PM

    aah, nice. free from islam  Afro

    to the rest, what happened to the tradition of handing bunnies and parrots btw?

  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #20 - August 25, 2010, 09:23 PM

    You are welcome. always glad to hear another ex-muslim coming out of the closet

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #21 - August 25, 2010, 09:26 PM

    Mike Patton is one of the best vocalists ever.  Smiley

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #22 - August 25, 2010, 09:29 PM

    Noooo, you changed your name in actuality Olweasle (I adored that name), buttersnips just aint youuuu
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #23 - August 25, 2010, 09:32 PM

    Welcom Ishina!  Smiley
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #24 - August 25, 2010, 09:36 PM

    Welcome BTW
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #25 - August 25, 2010, 09:39 PM

    Noooo, you changed your name in actuality Olweasle (I adored that name), buttersnips just aint youuuu

    At heart I'll always be your olweasel , if by any other name.  Wink

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #26 - August 25, 2010, 09:52 PM

    I am a 24 year old art student and Ex-Muslim in Manchester, UK.

    Welcome Ishina  Afro  I'm from Manchester too (if you click on my signature you might be able to detect a tinge of a Noel Gallagher accent) , glad to see you here anyway.  So tell us how you first found this forum, and how you & your mother became apostates?
    There is this cafe just around the corner from my place that does the most divine bacon and egg buns.

    By the way the van outside the B&Q at the Trafford Centre does a mean sausage & egg baguette too!

    My Book     news002       
    My Blog  pccoffee
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #27 - August 25, 2010, 10:30 PM

    I have been an admirer of Maryam Namazie for a long time. I suppose that is what eventually led me to register here. Strong women like her, who openly and without shame stand up and speak out - speaking to me, and speaking for me - I could not thank enough. I will say she played a significant part in my own awakening. I remember when I first heard her speak, it was like new blood running through me. It was like a new alphabet of feeling and emotion, scary and exciting at once. She articulated what was in my heart of hearts, what I would never even dare say before, not even dare think. Thoughts and doubts that brought me inner shame suddenly became words of power, a well of strength to draw from.

    We feel so isolated sometimes, but humans are not meant to be alone. We all need to belong, need to be understood and appreciated. We move through life, trying to establish ourselves and make our mark, discover our sense of identity, trying to be unique, but all the time silently crying out for others just like us. There are no sign posts sometimes. You end up where you end up. It is understated how much simply hearing a few simple words from someone else can help you find your way. When you learn you are not alone, things can change in profound ways. It’s a spark that ignites you. When you find out others are going through what you are going through, you no longer need to feel guilty for it, because you know you are not flawed or wrong, just different. It isn't a bad thing to be different.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #28 - August 25, 2010, 10:40 PM

    I have been an admirer of Maryam Namazie for a long time. I suppose that is what eventually led me to register here. Strong women like her, who openly  and without shame stand up and speak out - speaking to me, and speaking for me - I could not thank enough. I will say she played a significant part in my own awakening. I remember when I first heard her speak, it was like new blood running through me. It was like a new alphabet of feeling and emotion, scary and exciting at once. She articulated what was in my heart of hearts, what I would never even dare say before, not even dare think. Thoughts and doubts that brought me inner shame suddenly became words of power, a well of strength to draw from.

    Oh Boy!  Ishina joins CEMB.,   hello Ishina, you are upset, aren't you?  welcome to CEMB., So how did you find the Web of lies., CEMB is full of bad people.. lol., You see what you wrote above is really good except those highlighted words.. Without Shame?? may be you are using  wrong wording there. You mean to say "Without Fear"?

    Quote
    We feel so isolated sometimes, but humans  are not meant to be alone. We all need to belong, need to be understood and appreciated. We move through life, trying to establish ourselves and make our mark, discover our sense of identity, trying to be unique, but all the time silently crying out for others just like us. There are no sign posts sometimes. You end up where you end up. It is understated how much simply hearing a few simple words from someone else can help you find your way. When you learn you are not alone, things can change in profound ways. It’s a spark that ignites you. When you find out others are going through what you are going through, you no longer need to feel guilty for it, because you know you are not flawed or wrong, just different. It isn't a bad thing to be different.

    What happened dear Ishina..  why all that? Are you lonely? Don't worry just join the crowd here you will be homely. We are crows making noise and singing songs on web..  You sound like a girl from .. from.. that Land of P....

    with best regards
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Faith No More
     Reply #29 - August 25, 2010, 10:44 PM

    No. I meant exactly what I said. Are you struggling to read what I wrote or something? It seem perfectly clear to me.

    I'd like to help you understand. What makes you think I am upset or lonely? This seems contrary to what I actually wrote.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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