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Topic: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
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Lilyesque
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #30
- September 13, 2010, 11:23 PM
The person made would be genetically you with the same instructions for making cells etc, personality wise however if had diff experiences they would be mentally different.
z10
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Reply #31
- September 13, 2010, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Ishina on September 13, 2010, 11:22 PM
It isn't.
so then why is there no universe?
At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
Ishina
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #32
- September 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
It was a play on words, "There is no spoon"
I'll try to take it more seriously from now on.
Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
Absurdist
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Reply #33
- September 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:23 PM
The person made would be genetically you with the same instructions for making cells etc, personality wise however if had diff experiences they would be mentally different.
But would it be
you
? Would you remember
you
now and look back at your life as it is now as your past life?
Absurdist
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #34
- September 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
Quote from: Ishina on September 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
It was a play on words, "There is no spoon"
z10
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Reply #35
- September 13, 2010, 11:28 PM
Quote from: Ishina on September 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
It was a play on words, "There is no spoon"
I'll try to take it more seriously from now on.
haha, I see. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Only take it as seriously as you want to, the rest of us don't know the answers either.
At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
Ishina
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #36
- September 13, 2010, 11:29 PM
There is no spoon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzm8kTIj_0M
Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
Lilyesque
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Reply #37
- September 13, 2010, 11:30 PM
Quote from: Abood on September 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
But would it be
you
? Would you remember
you
now and look back at your life as it is now as your past life?
it wouldnt be you in any of the conventional terms but genetically it would be identical to you ( this a clone of you Ident. Twin). Mentally within you (like You abood), i think you if you had stored that bit of your past you would think it the old you and have a new you thinking wise, however they think that most of what you are personality wise sets around 21 to 25 (as i remember), so the new you would be a layering and complexitating (my coined word) of the old one.
Ishina
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #38
- September 13, 2010, 11:31 PM
There is no matter...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=couVqpuX9CU
Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
Absurdist
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Reply #39
- September 13, 2010, 11:36 PM
Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:30 PM
i think you if you had stored that bit of your past you would think it the old you
How do you know that?
Saif Rahman
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #40
- September 13, 2010, 11:38 PM
Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:30 PM
I
think
you if you had stored that bit of your past you would think it the old you and have a new you thinking wise,
Quote from: Abood on September 13, 2010, 11:36 PM
How do you
know
that?
she used the word think
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Absurdist
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #41
- September 13, 2010, 11:39 PM
OK, let's rephrase:
Why do you think that?
Lilyesque
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #42
- September 13, 2010, 11:41 PM
Well I think about it like this, the world shows signs of its ancient geological history with extinct volcanoes etc, but that was the world then, the world now is as it is with all the weaknesses and strengths of rock history makes the world as it is now evolving new mountain chains and the like. So the world now is still the world, it just is on one section of its course through history.
If you get my drift.
Absurdist
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Reply #43
- September 13, 2010, 11:44 PM
But the world wasn't cloned...
Lilyesque
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Reply #44
- September 13, 2010, 11:45 PM
So basically you change over time but you still remain you.
Lilyesque
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Reply #45
- September 13, 2010, 11:46 PM
I wasnt talking about clones here, im talking about Abood the singular, not abood and his twin abid.
Lilyesque
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Reply #46
- September 13, 2010, 11:47 PM
Who have been split up so diff experiences
z10
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #47
- September 13, 2010, 11:49 PM
Quote from: Ishina on September 13, 2010, 11:31 PM
There is no matter...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=couVqpuX9CU
this video had good ideas until it started on its conspiracy theories about illuminati and showing such conspiracy theorists like david icke and david wilcock
At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
Ishina
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #48
- September 13, 2010, 11:50 PM
Quote from: z10 on September 13, 2010, 11:49 PM
this video had good ideas until it started on its conspiracy theories about illuminati and showing such conspiracy theorists like david icke and david wilcock
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
Lilyesque
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #49
- September 13, 2010, 11:51 PM
Note I'm on a thinking thing here so don't take my word for it, its just hypotheses.
Ishina
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #50
- September 13, 2010, 11:52 PM
Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:45 PM
So basically you change over time but you still remain you.
Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
Lilyesque
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #51
- September 13, 2010, 11:53 PM
Whats that picture Ish, i cant see it
Absurdist
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Reply #52
- September 13, 2010, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:46 PM
I wasnt talking about clones here, im talking about Abood the singular, not abood and his twin abid.
But I was asking about clones when I asked:
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But would it be you? Would you remember you now and look back at your life as it is now as your past life?
z10
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #53
- September 13, 2010, 11:55 PM
Quote from: Ishina on September 13, 2010, 11:50 PM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
yes and there were some interesting ideas there, but it's just such a shame it was so mingled with the "new world order" and "illuminati" stuff
At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
Absurdist
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Re: The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!
Reply #54
- September 13, 2010, 11:57 PM
Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:51 PM
Note I'm on a thinking thing here so don't take my word for it, its just hypotheses.
That's cool, I'm just trying to get your train of thought.
Absurdist
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Reply #55
- September 13, 2010, 11:58 PM
Quote from: z10 on September 13, 2010, 11:55 PM
yes and there were some interesting ideas there, but it's just such a shame it was so mingled with the "new world order" and "illuminati" stuff
I hate that fucking crap.
Lilyesque
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Reply #56
- September 13, 2010, 11:58 PM
If you made a clone of you as a baby younger than you, they wouldnt remember your thoughts as they are not in your nervous system, there is no connection, they would build their own person through experiences which then by their genetic coding got memorised in the brain due to different genes being activated by an experience. They still would be identical to you genetically.
Absurdist
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Reply #57
- September 14, 2010, 12:01 AM
But you're assuming that being "identical to you" genetically makes that person
you
.
Lilyesque
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Reply #58
- September 14, 2010, 12:03 AM
BF:
regarding the question
if as an adult, you cloned dna and made a new human from it, they would not share memories
however, if you cloned an exact replica of the human being (dnuno how) including the pathways etc, then the clone would know of them too
they would be seperate going forwards
ME:
however with gestation periods
then it would separate
Him:
yeah, but fundamentally
from a purely chemical perspective
Lilyesque
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Reply #59
- September 14, 2010, 12:04 AM
Quote from: Abood on September 14, 2010, 12:01 AM
But you're assuming that being "identical to you" genetically makes that person
you
.
Im separating Genetic You and Mental + Aging You, the genetics affect the latter but the latter do not affect the former, they only change through mutation (cancers).
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