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 Topic: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series

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  • Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     OP - September 30, 2010, 01:24 PM
    BBC1 28 September 2010

    Reporter John Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of Scientology resulted in an explosive confrontation with church officials. This time, in a Panorama Special, one of those officials has turned whistleblower to help him reveal the dark secrets of the church, which boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and John Travolta among its devotees.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front_page/newsid_9032000/9032278.stm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMDGikPmEyw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOzbadA0II
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3KNtFSEm4Y
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTIr6uaTX0

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #1 - September 30, 2010, 01:37 PM
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%27s_Garage

    Quote
    Joe turns to religion for help, and "pays a lot of money" to "L. Ron Hoover" at the First Church of Appliantology (a parody of The Church of Scientology). There, Hoover identifies Joe as a "latent appliance fetishist". When Joe asks if he should "come out of the closet" he is instead instructed to "go into the closet" to achieve "sexual gratification through the use of machines". In the next song, we learn "The Closet" is the name of a club where humans can copulate with appliances. Joe locates a machine he likes, named Sy Borg, and they return to Sy's apartment. There Joe and Sy have a "groovy orgy" with Sy's roommate, a "modified Gay Bob doll."

    Joe ends up destroying Sy (whom the Central Scrutinizer calls an "XQJ-37 Nuclear-Powered Pansexual Roto-Plooker") with a golden shower. Joe, who gave all of his money to the Church of Appliantology and is thus unable to pay for the damage, is thrown into a special prison. The prison is painted all green on the inside and filled with criminals from the music business. While in jail, Joe is repeatedly gang raped ("plooked") by former musicians and record executives when they're not snorting lines of detergent. This gang is led by a shockingly endowed former promotional agent of a major record company, known as "Bald-Headed John: King of the Plookers".

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #2 - September 30, 2010, 02:30 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTIr6uaTX0



    I wanna hold that girl in my arms and tell her everthing is gonna be alright.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #3 - September 30, 2010, 02:33 PM
    Iblis - who's that in your avatar, I recognise the face but cant put my finger on it   finmad
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #4 - September 30, 2010, 02:34 PM
    http://www.theonion.com/personalities/herbert-kornfeld,1019/
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #5 - September 30, 2010, 05:24 PM
    so why is it that every religion has the motto of " we will f**** ur mind"??
    Confucius:
    "What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #6 - September 30, 2010, 06:01 PM
    That is what religion is
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #7 - September 30, 2010, 06:24 PM
    .
    Confucius:
    "What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #8 - September 30, 2010, 06:46 PM
    I used to love Juliette Lewis until I found out she was an alien  Cry

    I feel betrayed.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #9 - September 30, 2010, 07:32 PM

    I saw this. Creepy as fuck.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #10 - September 30, 2010, 07:55 PM
    And this is how paranoid they can get. On camera!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUiUyVqOuJI
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #11 - September 30, 2010, 08:01 PM
     Cheesy @ Him walking off at the end.
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #12 - September 30, 2010, 08:13 PM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on September 30, 2010, 07:55 PM
    And this is how paranoid they can get. On camera!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUiUyVqOuJI


    LOL
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #13 - September 30, 2010, 08:14 PM
    one sick f***
    Confucius:
    "What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #14 - September 30, 2010, 08:17 PM
    Apparently they have to deny the Xenu story because anyone below Operating Thetan Level 3 that learns it -- WILL DIE.
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #15 - September 30, 2010, 08:25 PM
    Are you joking or is that what their theology actually states??
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #16 - September 30, 2010, 08:38 PM
    Watch the third video from 9:40 onwards.


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    OT III, also called "The Wall of Fire". Deals with Incident 2, Xenu, the evil galactic overlord, and the H bombs on Hawaii 76 million years ago. Hubbard said that anyone who was exposed to this level casually would "freewheel" through it, become a chronic insomniac, then get sick and die. "Locating and auditing of body thetans on Incident I (first incident in MEST universe) and Incident II (incident which caused the degradation of these beings into body thetans and clusters as caused by Xenu approximately seventy-five million years ago). Emphasis on this level is ridding the pre-OT of body thetans which are conscious enough to respond to the auditing. Available at Advanced Organizations and higher. Partially replaced by New OT V." - Jonathon Barbera. See Incident Two.


    http://www.xenu.net/archive/ot/

    DEY CRAZY  Cheesy
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #17 - September 30, 2010, 08:40 PM
    Yeah, its like a modern Mormonism.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #18 - September 30, 2010, 08:59 PM
    This is fucked. Even by religious standards.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #19 - September 30, 2010, 09:15 PM
    Quote from: GodIsNotGreat on September 30, 2010, 08:17 PM
    Apparently they have to deny the Xenu story because anyone below Operating Thetan Level 3 that learns it -- WILL DIE.

    The Scientologist version of taqiyyah.  Tongue
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #20 - September 30, 2010, 09:43 PM
    lol - its a follow on to the original panorama documentary a few years ago when this happened..  Cheesy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjlo4u_8g60&NR=1
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #21 - October 01, 2010, 12:32 AM
    Quote from: Iblis on September 30, 2010, 02:34 PM
    http://www.theonion.com/personalities/herbert-kornfeld,1019/

    Herbert Kornfeld

    Prior to his death on April 30th, 2007, Herbert Kornfeld wrote about workplace issues for The Onion. He worked as the Accounts Receivable Supervisor at Midstate Office Supply, the state's oldest wholesaler and retailer of office supplies and business machines.

     Cheesy Cheesy

    My idol. Reminds me of a friend of mine from high school who never wore anything but leather shoes all his life. His father, who's got a PhD in contemporary Arabic poetry, told him that trainers are for wimps. I'm too tempted to post his graduation photo from his FB page as it is hilarious and looks eerily similar to Mr Kornfeld but that would too unethical !
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #22 - October 01, 2010, 05:15 AM
    I <3 kornfeld. He's a personal hero of mine.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #23 - October 01, 2010, 05:55 AM
    Those people scare me...

    They are like the Borg in reallife!
    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #24 - October 01, 2010, 06:16 AM
    Somebody in UK provided me with a copy of this program. Interesting how the BBC is prepared to "go after" Scientology and trample over the "sensibilities" of its adherents - eg:

    > suggesting to devoted Hubbardists  that their "religion" is a "cult"
    > Mockingly confronting them with certain ludicrous doctrines

    in a way it is not prepared to do  with the far more dangerous Islam. Indeed the BBC seems to see it as its sacred duty to counter "negative perceptions" of Islam among the general public.  Any suggestions as to the different approaches to the two barmy cults?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #25 - October 01, 2010, 08:12 AM
    Islam owns more real estate.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #26 - October 01, 2010, 08:13 AM
    Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 06:16 AM
    > suggesting to devoted Hubbardists  that their "religion" is a "cult"
    > Mockingly confronting them with certain ludicrous doctrines

    in a way it is not prepared to do  with the far more dangerous Islam.

    or buddhism, hinduism etc so in this case it has little to do with Islam being dangerous (having said that they have had plenty of exposees and programmes such as dispatches & undercover mosque etc. - you conveniently missed them I guess)

    You see DH your criticism is totally biased, and you waterdown our own arguments against Islam on this site by going over the top & calling Islam with arguments its not always entirely guilty off.  

    All you end up making exmuslims on this site do is defend Islam, and as ex's they resent having to do that after suffering at the hands of years of Islam, which you personally havent.  By spreading exaggerated untruths, you force us to defend the oppressor.

    If you care about your cause then I think it really is in this forums interests that you left this site.  I also think you would  have a better time & find more agreable people within FFI.  Of course DH, at the end of the day, I still like you and its up to you.
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #27 - October 01, 2010, 11:54 AM
    Quote from: Islame
    or buddhism, hinduism etc so in this case it has little to do with Islam being dangerous


    This is the second such BBC Panorama prog investigating Scientology on the basis of it per se being a "dangerous" and "sinister" cult. The BBC would never brazenly suggest the same to a Muslim interviewee with respect to Islam. That's the fact of the matter.

    Quote
    You see DH your criticism is totally biased,


    In what way?

    Quote
    and you waterdown our own arguments against Islam on this site by going over the top & calling Islam with arguments its not always entirely guilty off.


    Of what, exactly, have I accused Islam that it is not guilty of? That it is a cult? Admittedly the distinction between "relgion" and "cult" is somewhat spurious but the distinction is made and Islam per se displays more than enough of the featues to qualify it for the latter category as the term is commonly used. For instance cults are notorious for harassing, threatening even killing  those who leave them - an undeniable feature of Islam from its earliest beginnings which it has failed to shed with the passage of time. Not all Muslims actively take part in such activities. So what? Most members of Scientology don't. It is however a feature of the Church of Scientology that marks it out as a cult.

    Quote
    All you end up making exmuslims on this site do is defend Islam,


    I'm not "making" anybody here do anything.

    Quote
    (having said that they have had plenty of exposees and programmes such as dispatches & undercover mosque etc. - you conveniently missed them I guess)


    These programs were not put on by the BBC which has a manifest policy of steering clear of such output because of its potential to feed "negative perceptions of Islam" which it clearly sees as its primary duty to counter.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #28 - October 01, 2010, 12:42 PM
    But why are you posing these arguments to people here who are clearly non-muslims, DH?
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #29 - October 01, 2010, 12:53 PM
    We're not really ex-muslims, just muslims pretending to be ex-muslims. DH has it all figured out, you see.
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

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