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  • Should drugs be made legal? [WARNING: CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES]
     OP - October 27, 2010, 09:23 PM
    Here, I made a thread  Afro
    (Though I think there already is one on this forum somewhere I'm sure...)
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #1 - October 27, 2010, 09:28 PM
    To Start:

    I agree with Qman, in a sense. I know guys who go to bars purposely to get girls drunk until they are almost to the point of passing out so they can take them home and fuck them.

    However;

    With alcohol, the girl always has the choice simply to not drink the drink, whereas obviously they don't have the choice to not consume the roofie, as they don't even know it's there. Regardless in either case, it is wrong to take advantage of anyone who is intoxicated, even if it is because they willingly got drunk.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #2 - October 27, 2010, 09:32 PM
    We should arrest Keith Richards, Peter Doherty, Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston, Lindsey Lohan and bla bla bla bla.

    Oh it so sad to see them wither away WON'T ANYBODY DO ANYTHING!!!!!

    OH NOES THE INHUMANITY!

    Yet we have tons of fucking kids growing up disabled because of alcoholic parents, mothers drinking while pregnant. How come we are not arresting them and taking their kids away.

    The fucking hypocrisy of some people.

    When thousands and thousands are dying in Mexico thanks to illegal markets in Europe and America we are still going its immoral to legalize drugs. It's a fucking joke, the drug wars, the prohibition, it is doing enough damage as it is now.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #3 - October 27, 2010, 09:33 PM
    And to answer this question:

    Quote from: Ishina on October 27, 2010, 08:57 PM

    Which hard drugs?



    Most of the main ones, crack, cocaine, meth etc (though I can't say I have done roofies)
    z10 did heroin for like a month straight everyday, but hasn't touched it since... so yeah it's not always a downward spiral
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #4 - October 27, 2010, 09:34 PM


    BEFORE:


    AFTER:




    FUCK YEAH! Let's legalise this shit!
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #5 - October 27, 2010, 09:34 PM
    Quote from: Rev. Winton Dupree on October 27, 2010, 09:29 PM
    @Ishina

    Okay, let me break this down with a few quick, simple questions:

    1. Do you acknowledge that there are other drugs that could be used for rape that are less regulated than rohypnol and GHB, such as benzodiazepenes, Z-drugs, alcohol, antihistamenes, opiates, and various other sedatives?

    2. Do you acknowledge that like those other drugs, rohypnol and GHB are used, both recreationally and medicinally, for things other than date rape?

    3. Would it surprise you if you found out that (a) rapes constitute a very small percentage of actual use of those drugs, and (b) other drugs are used more than those two for rape?

    If Yes to the first two and No to the last one, then on what basis should roofies and GHB be banned while others are subject to minimal regulation?


    Zoomi, you should just request admin/mods to break off the drug-related posts from your thread in the Rant Area and put them here.

    Quote from: Ishina on October 27, 2010, 09:34 PM
    (Clicky for piccy!)

    BEFORE:
    (Clicky for piccy!)

    AFTER:
    (Clicky for piccy!)

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    FUCK YEAH! Let's legalise this shit!


    Well, I see someone has given up on intelligent argument.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #6 - October 27, 2010, 09:37 PM
    And how the fuck dare you put me in jail for buying crack and heroin? It's my fucking body. My fucking choice.

    I somebody gonna arrest me for sniffing light fluid next? Or should we outlaw socks because some people get high sniffing them (I won't say who but you know him as Q-Man)
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #7 - October 27, 2010, 09:40 PM
    This thread is like a muslim's wet dream. You know what he/she would say?

    Allah knows man best. That's why Allah has banned all intoxicants.

     Afro

    Yeah cause adults aren't adults and don't have natural rights.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #8 - October 27, 2010, 09:42 PM
    But hey, since we're going the way of posting images as substitutes for actual arguments-- here are some lovely images brought to you by criminalization of hard drugs:















    Plenty more where that came from.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #9 - October 27, 2010, 09:43 PM
    How about cigarettes?

    When are we banning cigarettes?

    When are we arresting people for selling and smoking cigarettes?
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #10 - October 27, 2010, 09:43 PM
    Quote from: Rev. Winton Dupree on October 27, 2010, 09:34 PM
    Well, I see someone has given up on intelligent argument.


    You're talking about legalising CRACK and HEROIN. Are you fucking kidding me? And BlackDog too. Wow.

    You don't even know how disappointed I am in you  Cry

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #11 - October 27, 2010, 09:46 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on October 27, 2010, 09:43 PM
    How about cigarettes?

    When are we banning cigarettes?

    When are we arresting people for selling and smoking cigarettes?


    This hyperbolic pussy routine doesn't suit you. Stop doing it.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #12 - October 27, 2010, 09:48 PM

    Thanks for posting those images without warning Dupree.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #13 - October 27, 2010, 09:49 PM
    Yeah, well done Q.

    Take a fucking bow.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #14 - October 27, 2010, 09:49 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on October 27, 2010, 09:43 PM
    You're talking about legalising CRACK and HEROIN. Are you fucking kidding me? And BlackDog too. Wow.

    You don't even know how disappointed I am in you  Cry


    And you're fucking talking about keeping a Drug War going that's killing and imprisoning millions, and destroying democracy and liberty for millions more-- why? For the common good, no doubt. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    You don't even know how disappointed I am in YOU.

    The Drug War has laid waste to an entire hemisphere, led to disgusting atrocities and oppression, and all you care about is saving people from their own bad decisions. Fuck that.

    Quote from: billy on October 27, 2010, 09:48 PM
    Thanks for posting those images without warning Dupree.


    If you can't take it, get off your ass and do something about it. Demand an end to the Drug War.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #15 - October 27, 2010, 09:53 PM
    Agreed with Q-man.

    I watched a documentary on how 'the war on drugs' is not preventing further drug crime but in fact increasing it and making it harder for former drug dealers to find jobs and get out of a poor living.

    Legalising drugs would benefit the state economy as the government would generate billions in tax revenue from drugs sold. I think they way the drugs would be sold will be similar to cigarettes - heavily taxed to deter people from buying them.

    The current policy on drugs in most western countries is creating further poverty in impoverished or under-previliged areas but I definitely  think there would be more to gain from legalising drugs from a social and eocnomic stand point.

    Pros vs cons?
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #16 - October 27, 2010, 09:56 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on October 27, 2010, 09:43 PM
    You're talking about legalising CRACK and HEROIN. Are you fucking kidding me? And BlackDog too. Wow.

    You don't even know how disappointed I am in you  Cry




    You're disappointed in people who don't agree with you? That isn't nice.

    You never did answer my question, have you done hard drugs?
    Also, are you speaking about hard drugs as in just the physically addictive ones, or is this extending to LSD, ecstasy, etc?
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #17 - October 27, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Yeah and Qman I hate to say it but I have to agree, those pictures might not have been appropriate to post without warning, you fail to know how sensitive people like me are when I see pictures like that  Cry
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #18 - October 27, 2010, 09:59 PM
    Quote from: Rev. Winton Dupree on October 27, 2010, 09:49 PM
    If you can't take it, get off your ass and do something about it. Demand an end to the Drug War.


    Q, drop the self righteousness please.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #19 - October 27, 2010, 10:01 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on October 27, 2010, 09:37 PM
    And how the fuck dare you put me in jail for buying crack and heroin? It's my fucking body. My fucking choice.

    +1 best argument so far Wink
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  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #20 - October 27, 2010, 10:03 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 27, 2010, 09:59 PM
    Q, drop the self righteousness please.


    No. This is reality. Fuck all of you who don't want it invading your little corner of the world when so many have no choice in the matter and have to see this shit first-hand because you people are too comfortable and fearful to challenge your own ruling class.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #21 - October 27, 2010, 10:03 PM
    Treatment not on NHS
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #22 - October 27, 2010, 10:07 PM
    Quote from: Rev. Winton Dupree on October 27, 2010, 10:03 PM
    No. This is reality. Fuck all of you who don't want it invading your little corner of the world when so many have no choice in the matter and have to see this shit first-hand because you people are too comfortable and fearful to challenge your own ruling class.



    Yeah. I am responsible and complicit with all that, just because I thought you might have put spoiler tags around graphic pictures of violence. Well done. Great argument there.

    As it happens, I see some merit in arguments for decriminilisation, although I know its complicated and there are two sides to the story. But I still wish you'd give warnings if posting pictures like that.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #23 - October 27, 2010, 10:09 PM
    Basically this argument comes down to a discussion over autonomy. Does one have the right to do what they want to their own body (and more importantly, with their lives)? And, does the government have the right to tell you what you can and cannot put in it?

    I think I would have to say no, I don't really think it is the government's business, and it's sort of a slippery slope -- when is it going to become government regulation that you must eat healthy, etc?

    However the government (and us) do have a choice over how much money we will pump into drug treatment programs and to welfare, etc..
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #24 - October 27, 2010, 10:11 PM
    Yes Q, can you pretty please take them down? I agree that the drug war is atrocious and ridiculous, but I don't really see how posting bloody pictures of it is adding to this debate, anymore than Ishnas pictures of amy winehouse were.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #25 - October 27, 2010, 10:13 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 27, 2010, 10:07 PM

    Yeah. I am responsible and complicit with all that, just because I thought you might have put spoiler tags around graphic pictures of violence. Well done. Great argument there.

    As it happens, I see some merit in arguments for decriminilisation, although I know its complicated and there are two sides to the story. But I still wish you'd give warnings if posting pictures like that.



    In other words, you don't take a strong stand against the Drug War, despite paying taxes to an elected regime that supports it, therefore you are indeed complicit.

    Quote from: zoomi on October 27, 2010, 10:09 PM
    Basically this argument comes down to a discussion over autonomy. Does one have the right to do what they want to their own body (and more importantly, with their lives)? And, does the government have the right to tell you what you can and cannot put in it?


    Yes, end of. Anyone who can't see that is an enemy to liberty or an idiot.

    Quote from: zoomi on October 27, 2010, 10:11 PM
    Yes Q, can you pretty please take them down?


    Absolutely not. Rat me out to a mod if you're so inclined.

    Quote
    I agree that the drug war is atrocious and ridiculous, but I don't really see how posting bloody pictures of it is adding to this debate, anymore than Ishnas pictures of amy winehouse were.


    Those Amy Winehouse pictures are more offensive than the ones I posted, but I don't see anyone requesting Ishina take down or add warning tags to here.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #26 - October 27, 2010, 10:18 PM
    i think Q just felt it was time for a reality check on this thread - hence the (unsavoury to some) shock tactics

    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #27 - October 27, 2010, 10:25 PM
    Quote from: Rev. Winton Dupree on October 27, 2010, 10:13 PM
    In other words, you don't take a strong stand against the Drug War, despite paying taxes to an elected regime that supports it, therefore you are indeed complicit.


    Nice try Q, might have worked with someone else, but its zero-sum bullshit, and not true. Sorry.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #28 - October 27, 2010, 10:27 PM
    Boobs.
  • Re: Should drugs be made legal?
     Reply #29 - October 27, 2010, 10:29 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on October 27, 2010, 10:27 PM
    Does it become the government's business if you're going to get free treatment for the damage you do to your body?


    Absolutely. The government should be able to either deny you coverage or raise your rates/taxes/copays accordingly-- they should not throw you in jail for it.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
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