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 Topic: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM

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  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #90 - November 16, 2010, 09:33 AM

    DH is a Muslim  bunny
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #91 - November 16, 2010, 11:31 AM
    Quote from: DH on November 16, 2010, 06:00 AM

    Call me anything you like.


    Duly noted.
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #92 - November 16, 2010, 11:51 AM
    DH- the % of 'militant Islamists' isn't as big as you make it out.
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #93 - November 16, 2010, 11:54 AM
    *waits for no true scotsman*
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #94 - November 16, 2010, 05:07 PM
    Quote from: billy on November 16, 2010, 09:33 AM
    DH is a Muslim  bunny



    Arrggghhh!!!! Now I AM offended.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #95 - November 16, 2010, 05:08 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on November 16, 2010, 11:31 AM
    Duly noted.


    And you also note the "JUST DON'T CALL ME A MUSLIM"?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #96 - November 16, 2010, 05:11 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on November 16, 2010, 11:51 AM
    DH- the % of 'militant Islamists' isn't as big as you make it out.


    Could you please provide your estimate of what these and the various other categories I have listed above contribute to the total population of "people who call themselves Muslims"?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #97 - November 16, 2010, 05:58 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on November 16, 2010, 11:51 AM
    DH- the % of 'militant Islamists' isn't as big as you make it out.


    What proportion do they make up of the population of Egypt? I ask because THINGS LIKE THIS keep happening there.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #98 - November 16, 2010, 07:10 PM
    Quote from: DH on November 16, 2010, 05:11 PM
    Could you please provide your estimate of what these and the various other categories I have listed above contribute to the total population of "people who call themselves Muslims"?


    What's your estimate?
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #99 - November 16, 2010, 08:52 PM
    Lets wait for the parliamentary election results. Although 600 members of the brotherhood have been detained--which If I'm not mistaken is about the same as the Iranian election protests. Yet hardly any media spotlight. Wonder why  whistling2
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #100 - November 18, 2010, 07:01 AM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on November 16, 2010, 07:10 PM
    What's your estimate?


    I'd estimate that 95% of people who define themselves as "Muslims" are fully conversant with the "Islamist" ideology and at least tacitly support it. What about you?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #101 - November 18, 2010, 07:15 AM
    Closer to 5%.

    What are you basing your estimate on?
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #102 - November 18, 2010, 10:05 AM
    Quote from: DH on November 18, 2010, 07:01 AM
    I'd estimate that 95% of people who define themselves as "Muslims" are fully conversant with the "Islamist" ideology and at least tacitly support it. What about you?

    you're so biased - why did you choose the word tacitly, what we are talking about here is the kind of people who really believe it.
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  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #103 - November 18, 2010, 10:40 AM
    Quote from: DH on November 18, 2010, 07:01 AM
    I'd estimate that 95% of people who define themselves as "Muslims" are fully conversant with the "Islamist" ideology and at least tacitly support it. What about you?


    Oh please. You've constantly ignored my criticism of your lack of knowledge of statistics. Please stop using them, it makes people like me annoyed.
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #104 - November 18, 2010, 10:41 AM
    Why do people even talk to DH? He's a complete joke. The man isn't even British and sure as hell not a "Native" one.
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #105 - November 18, 2010, 10:59 AM

    He's a troll with no other purpose on here but to troll. He is of malicious intent, has no desire to participate in the spirit or ethos of this forum, and has never even once tried to fit in. Fuck him, pathetic troll scumbag bunny
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #106 - November 18, 2010, 03:37 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza
    Closer to 5%. What are you basing your estimate on?


    The fact that "Islamism" is the message of the Koran and it is perfectly reasonable to assume, in the absence of conclusive evidence to the contrary, that anybody who defines themselves as a "believer" in that book as the divine world endorses the message of that book 100%.

    On what do you base your 5% figure?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #107 - November 18, 2010, 03:40 PM
    Quote from: IsLame
    you're so biased - why did you choose the word tacitly, what we are talking about here is the kind of people who really believe it.


    I'm using the word "tacitly" as distinct from "actively" in the sense that al-Qaeda and hizb ut Tahrir are active proponents and pursuents of jihad and sharia.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #108 - November 18, 2010, 03:44 PM
    Quote from: serrated_colon
    Oh please. You've constantly ignored my criticism of your lack of knowledge of statistics. Please stop using them, it makes people like me annoyed.


    I'm quite willing to reconsider my estimate if you can counter it with figures for the proportion of self-proclaimed "Muslims" who belong to each of the categories I listed above.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #109 - November 18, 2010, 04:28 PM
    'i will make a statistical claim based on no evidence but i will only reconsider it if you bring a statistical claim with evidence'

     gutterbrain
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #110 - November 18, 2010, 04:41 PM
    In other words it is perfectly reasonable to assume, in the absence of clear evidence to the contrary, that any randomly selected person who defines themselves as "Muslim" fully endorses the Koran's violent supremacist agenda and at least tacitly supports those actively pursuing that agenda.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #111 - November 18, 2010, 04:41 PM
    Quote from: serrated_colon on November 18, 2010, 04:28 PM
    'i will make a statistical claim based on no evidence but i will only reconsider it if you bring a statistical claim with evidence'

    Nice one, serrated_colon  Afro Cheesy

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  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #112 - November 18, 2010, 04:56 PM
    Quote from: DH on November 18, 2010, 03:37 PM
    The fact that "Islamism" is the message of the Koran and it is perfectly reasonable to assume, in the absence of conclusive evidence to the contrary, that anybody who defines themselves as a "believer" in that book as the divine world endorses the message of that book 100%.

    On what do you base your 5% figure?


    Years and years of being a Muslim, scocialising with various Muslim communities, attending numerous madrasahs in 3 different countries etc... you know actual real-life experiences.

    If you think 95% of Muslims have ever even read the whole quran in a language they understand you are either ignorant or plain stupid.
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #113 - November 18, 2010, 04:58 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on November 18, 2010, 04:56 PM
    Years and years of being a Muslim, scocialising with various Muslim communities, attending numerous madrasahs in 3 different countries etc... you know actual real-life experiences.

    If you think 95% of Muslims have ever even read the whole quran in a language they understand you are either ignorant or plain stupid.

    Exactly!
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  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #114 - November 18, 2010, 05:56 PM
    While Islam may be more politically assertive and absolutist than other religions, it must be noted that all religions have idiotic and fascist dogma.  For instance, in chapter 13 of Deuteronomy, Jews are commanded to kill apostates.  Even the 'peace-loving' Jesus advocated the law of apostasy and supported slavery.  It has been estimated that the Christian witch-hunts between the 16th and 18th centuries resulted in between 40,000 and 60,000 executions.  Today, most believing Christians gloss over or ignore such details.  In spite of crazed rhetoric by some fuming fundamentalists, the same latitudinarianism should be expected of most Muslims living in relatively secular societies.  After all, religious affiliation is more often about your parents than your thinking.
     




     
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #115 - November 18, 2010, 06:57 PM
    To be honest, most Muslims aren't taught about the Qur'an or Islamic history, they're only taught how to practise Islam (learn suras and how to pray) and that's it.
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  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #116 - November 18, 2010, 07:03 PM
    And be good to parents, don't lie, backbite etc.
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #117 - November 19, 2010, 06:35 AM
    Quote
    While Islam may be more politically assertive and absolutist than other religions,


    It is. Inherently and irredeemably so. It provides no get out clauses for people who might dislike its barbarities and wish they weren't there. As "Allah" says:

    FIGHTING is ordained for you, even though it be hateful to you; but it may be that you hate a thing that  is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing that is bad for you: and ALLAH knows and you do not know.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #118 - November 19, 2010, 06:38 AM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza
    Years and years of being a Muslim, scocialising with various Muslim communities, attending numerous madrasahs in 3 different countries etc... you know actual real-life experiences.


    So what did they teach you in the madrasahs you attended?

    Quote
    If you think 95% of Muslims have ever even read the whole quran in a language they understand you are either ignorant or plain stupid.


    So what percentage of Muslims would you say have actually read the Koran in a language they understand?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: HOW THE (UK) TAXPAYER IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR MILITANT ISLAM
     Reply #119 - November 19, 2010, 09:31 AM
    I'd say less than 30% have actually read the Quran in a language they understand--I still haven't read it all in english lol
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