Re: UK university hosts ?anti-West? week under ?justice' guise
Reply #189 - December 07, 2010, 01:44 PM
ah, and there are no other factors which affect growth of populations right? it's just a smooth exponential curve with no limits and is a lovely neat function! unfortunately, this isn't the case. human populations generally tend to have a decent initial growth(especially in poorer countries) due to the very fact that it's very easy to do so. what eventually happens however, is that factors such as death rate, emigration, affluence(this is a big thing and is something that white isolationists in the US try to downplay, however in pre-industrial and developing societies this is true) and other such things cancel down the general growth and it varies about a limit. this of course, as you've probably noticed is for countries, however the principle can be generalized towards societies. so the 'muslim' population has grown in the UK because of the 'recent'(i say this relatively of course) immigration of muslims into the UK. but as the black population in the US and the black population in the UK, it varies about a limit as said factors, and many like them take hold.
now, an interesting thing i found in the times article that you posted is that the trend actually isn't clear. observe the increases in populations stated at the bottom of the article(assuming they are accurate):
2004 - 2005: 147000
2005 - 2006: 125000
2006 - 2007: 185000
2007 - 2008: 95000
this is a nice(albeit horrendously crude, but let's work with what we have) demonstration of the principle i was stating before. the initial increases in society(relatively ofc, the 'real' initial increases are very very low and i cba to educate you) are high, but they tend towards a limit. in general populations this is called a carrying capacity, but we can still utilise this principle to seperate societies.
the above average birth rates are generally not uncommon when you consider the socio-economic conditions the majority of muslims live in. the chav from the council estate and the pakistani lady living next door are no different in this respect, they're both going to have more kids in general and to quote hitchen's mantra; the best way to eliminate poverty is to give a woman more control of how much she reproduces(said control can either be forced, in the cases of many muslims or by choice of attitude, in the case of a chav). this is in no way reflective of any 'demographic threat', as you can see by said explanations above.
as for the bbc's refutation of the video, this was because it's based upon demonstrably false statistics and is sensationalist propaganda.
satisfied?
as for the bbc,
Topic: UK university hosts ‘anti-West’ week under ‘justice' guise