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  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #90 - December 06, 2010, 07:15 PM

    i dont like ayan hirsi

    my whole thing with religion is be respectful of others religions even if u dont agree with it...i dont agree with judaism but i would never say anything negative and derogatory of it...i no longer agree with islam but i respect it because my family practice it

    ayan hirsi at first denounced her faith which is totally fine but then i think she went too far calling names and stuff...its childish and stupid

    i understand shes not a muslim and is bitter towards what islam teaches(as am i)  but when you leave the religion have some respect and not make fun of it ya know??


    I dislike Ayaan Hirsi but for slightly different reasons.

    I don't think any Somali Ex Muslim on this forum actually support here lol

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #91 - December 06, 2010, 07:15 PM

    that means god died lol
    the trinity to me is bogus...jesus is god...but then hes the son of god but then hes also the saviour


    confusing peice of ish Huh?

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #92 - December 06, 2010, 07:16 PM

    I dislike Ayaan Hirsi but for slightly different reasons.

    I don't think any Somali Ex Muslim on this forum actually support here lol


    lol whats ur reasoning behind not liking her??

    she just irritates me so much idiot2

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #93 - December 06, 2010, 07:17 PM

    ya but i cant shake off the fact that i have it all wrong and that there is a god and that i need to find him Huh?


    If there is a God, he or she will find you.

    Live your life.




    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #94 - December 06, 2010, 07:17 PM

    i dont agree with judaism but i would never say anything negative and derogatory of it...i no longer agree with islam but i respect it because my family practice it

    ayan hirsi at first denounced her faith which is totally fine but then i think she went too far calling names and stuff...its childish and stupid

    In order to be truly respectful towards believers one must critically asses their claims - that means treating them as serious adults that are responsible for their beliefs.

    Such assessment is necessarily taken as being "disrespectful" and hurtful because it challenges the most cherished beliefs of an individual.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #95 - December 06, 2010, 07:18 PM

    Billy....cant argue with u there


    if there is hopefully he will find me Afro

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #96 - December 06, 2010, 07:19 PM

    lol whats ur reasoning behind not liking her??

    she just irritates me so much idiot2


    Can't stand her either.
    She is so annoying. So bitter. Her understanding and her arguments against Islam is one I don't think is equal to her famous reputation

    Most importantly, her and people like her have thrown their lot in with the Right which makes them not my ally or friend.

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #97 - December 06, 2010, 07:20 PM

    Loti totally agree with ya Afro

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #98 - December 06, 2010, 07:22 PM

    that means god died lol

    bingo!

    All that remains is the community of believers - that is us, humanity. And we have nobody to lean against but each other and we are condemned to freedom.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #99 - December 06, 2010, 07:24 PM

    lol Kenan cant argue with you there Smiley

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #100 - December 06, 2010, 07:27 PM

    I don't know about her right political-leanings but surely Ayaan Hirsi Ali must be respected for her bravery and advocacy of Enlightenment values.  
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #101 - December 06, 2010, 07:29 PM

    @Nessa

    So be free - forget about organised religion. It's oppressive and as anti-god as it gets.

    Unless you want to appease a fantasy of a  sadistic wanker who likes torturing people for eternity.

    Even the worst criminal, rapist, mass murderer is better than such god.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #102 - December 06, 2010, 07:31 PM

    I don't know about her right political-leanings but surely Ayaan Hirsi Ali must be respected for her bravery and advocacy of Enlightenment values.  


    yes she is brave to come out especially with the somali community...i just dont like her approach when talking about islam

    its sufficent enough for her to say no i dont beleive in islam because of.....


    rather than saying islam is...(insert any derogatory term u can think of)

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #103 - December 06, 2010, 07:31 PM

    @Nessa

    So be free - forget about organised religion. It's oppressive and as anti-god as it gets.

    Unless you want to appease a fantasy of a  sadistic wanker who likes torturing people for eternity.

    Even the worst criminal, rapist, mass murderer is better than such god.


    im trying to...but i cant help but worry about the afterlife...is it worth having fun in this life but suffereing in eternity?? thats what im fighting with i guess

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #104 - December 06, 2010, 07:36 PM

    I don't know about her right political-leanings but surely Ayaan Hirsi Ali must be respected for her bravery and advocacy of Enlightenment values.  


    Bravery yes.
    Everything else, meh.

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #105 - December 06, 2010, 07:37 PM

    lol but then what if there is a god and if i dont find him i go to hell??


    That if is a very big IF dear!You could spend your whole life pondering over it.You are suffering from the withdrawal symptoms. Heaven and hell are just figments of human imagination to make man's virtual creation of GOD appear real!Primitive men rightly believed that 'FEAR WAS THE KEY' to bring some order in the chaos they encountered.If you have observed, 'THE GOD WHO THREATENS' has ruled the roost in all cultures. Expecting sacrifices of all kinds and glorifying submissive behaviour so that followers didn't go astray and affect group cohesion.



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #106 - December 06, 2010, 07:38 PM

    im trying to...but i cant help but worry about the afterlife...is it worth having fun in this life but suffereing in eternity?? thats what im fighting with i guess

    Why would god have an issue with you having fun? Is god a sadist? Is god petty and selfish and jealous?



    This is a fatwa by the Tailor - a Sufi who often posts here:

    Most people address what they believe/don't believe, around the time they enter university, it's a good time for thinking these things over.

    I believe myself to be an authority on the Qur'an and the sunnah of Prophecy (though anyone who dislikes Sufis would tend to disagree -- at least I can say the study of the Qur'an occupies a large portion of my days and has done for quite a while).  In particular, I believe in Allah and the Qur'an -- but take a Sufi reading.

    As such, I can tell you the following, from my perspective:

    * It makes no difference to Allah if you wear hijab or not. I can't judge because I don't know you well enough -- but it might even be a bad thing (Islamically) to wear hijab at this point in your life.

    * Allah wants you to date. Or, more specifically, Allah wants you to find love (because as a Sufi I believe Allah is love, the main way a human knows Allah is by first loving yourself -- and then finding other humans to love, and the most common way to do that, living in the 21st century in the West, is by dating). Of course, pick the right kind of people -- though making mistakes with people is also just part of maturing -- so don't worry if you make mistakes either. Please avoid bastards if you can, there are a few out there.

    * More seriously, the Sufi does not pray to "ask" for things or to stop Allah from getting angry at them. That kind of Allah (one which grants wishes from prayers or who gets angry) is an illusion -- actually it is what we call taghut, false idolatry. To imagine such a God (beyond your childhood) can be potentially psychologically damaging: certainly full blown atheism is much healthier.

    On the plus side, it means you never ought to worry about Allah getting angry with you ... and all bad things that happen are just part of life -- not a "supernatural" effect.

    On the down side, it means you can't really "ask" God to make things better in your life. The purpose of prayer is simply to bring about Peace and Love in your mind/body/soul. But, done in the right kind of way, if you do feel peaceful, then that will have a knock-on effect to other parts of your life and the people you love around you (if you are peaceful, they will vibe off that and also feel peaceful, make those who are suffering from illness feel more physically/spiritually comfortable, etc).

    Feel free to contact me here or via private email if you want some tips on Sufi reading material.

    The Tailor of CEMB

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=13358.msg371746#msg371746
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #107 - December 06, 2010, 07:39 PM

    thank you hypocrusifer...its gonna take me a while to aknowledge that but i do sort of agree with you



    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #108 - December 06, 2010, 07:42 PM

    She is so annoying. So bitter. Her understanding and her arguments against Islam is one I don't think is equal to her famous reputation

    Most importantly, her and people like her have thrown their lot in with the Right which makes them not my ally or friend.

    True that.

    But can you really blame her? After all she went through?

    She is very vocal and has acquired a lot of enemies.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #109 - December 06, 2010, 07:43 PM

    Why would god have an issue with you having fun? Is god a sadist? Is god petty and selfish and jealous?



    This is a fatwa by the Tailor - a Sufi who often posts here:

    Most people address what they believe/don't believe, around the time they enter university, it's a good time for thinking these things over.

    I believe myself to be an authority on the Qur'an and the sunnah of Prophecy (though anyone who dislikes Sufis would tend to disagree -- at least I can say the study of the Qur'an occupies a large portion of my days and has done for quite a while).  In particular, I believe in Allah and the Qur'an -- but take a Sufi reading.

    As such, I can tell you the following, from my perspective:

    * It makes no difference to Allah if you wear hijab or not. I can't judge because I don't know you well enough -- but it might even be a bad thing (Islamically) to wear hijab at this point in your life.

    * Allah wants you to date. Or, more specifically, Allah wants you to find love (because as a Sufi I believe Allah is love, the main way a human knows Allah is by first loving yourself -- and then finding other humans to love, and the most common way to do that, living in the 21st century in the West, is by dating). Of course, pick the right kind of people -- though making mistakes with people is also just part of maturing -- so don't worry if you make mistakes either. Please avoid bastards if you can, there are a few out there.

    * More seriously, the Sufi does not pray to "ask" for things or to stop Allah from getting angry at them. That kind of Allah (one which grants wishes from prayers or who gets angry) is an illusion -- actually it is what we call taghut, false idolatry. To imagine such a God (beyond your childhood) can be potentially psychologically damaging: certainly full blown atheism is much healthier.

    On the plus side, it means you never ought to worry about Allah getting angry with you ... and all bad things that happen are just part of life -- not a "supernatural" effect.

    On the down side, it means you can't really "ask" God to make things better in your life. The purpose of prayer is simply to bring about Peace and Love in your mind/body/soul. But, done in the right kind of way, if you do feel peaceful, then that will have a knock-on effect to other parts of your life and the people you love around you (if you are peaceful, they will vibe off that and also feel peaceful, make those who are suffering from illness feel more physically/spiritually comfortable, etc).

    Feel free to contact me here or via private email if you want some tips on Sufi reading material.

    The Tailor of CEMB

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=13358.msg371746#msg371746


    interesting fatwa......only a small minority of muslims actually would agree with him unfortunately

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #110 - December 06, 2010, 07:44 PM

    True that.

    But can you really blame her? After all she went through?

    She is very vocal and has acquired a lot of enemies.


    i dont know im just not a fan of her

    ya shes been through alot but i still think she could have gone about it in a better way

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #111 - December 06, 2010, 07:45 PM

    interesting fatwa......only a small minority of muslims actually would agree with him unfortunately

    truth is not a beauty contest - it's not about who has the most support or the largest following
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #112 - December 06, 2010, 07:47 PM

    truth is not a beauty contest - it's not about who has the most support or the largest following


    Sigworthy, Kenan  Afro

    btw Welcome Nessa - hope you find what makes you happy.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #113 - December 06, 2010, 07:48 PM

    ya but kenan dont u think if more ppl had that same mindset things wouldnt be as bad as it is??

    we wouldnt have those terrorists like al shabab and the taliban

    women wouldnt be forced to wear the hijab if they didnt want to...its fine if someone wants to wear it go right ahead but to force someone that doesnt wanna wear it to wear it frustrates me!

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #114 - December 06, 2010, 07:49 PM

    Sigworthy, Kenan  Afro

    btw Welcome Nessa - hope you find what makes you happy.


    Thank you Hassan:)...and i agree with ya..it totally is sig worthy!

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #115 - December 06, 2010, 07:52 PM

    True that.

    But can you really blame her? After all she went through?

    She is very vocal and has acquired a lot of enemies.


    Yes.
    I know many Somalis who have gone through 10x worse than her. A forced marriage is nothing next to fighting in Somalia's war as a child soldier. She got out.

    Either way, her trauma in life does not give her an out especially when it comes to supporting the right.

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #116 - December 06, 2010, 07:55 PM

    Agreed Loki Afro

    my mum suffered worse than she did Roll Eyes

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #117 - December 06, 2010, 07:58 PM

    Agreed Loki Afro

    my mum suffered worse than she did Roll Eyes


    Absolutely!

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #118 - December 06, 2010, 08:05 PM

    totally true loki...shes pathetic she just wants sympathy from denmark and to get some fame which is y she talks about "everything she suffered"


    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Hi:)
     Reply #119 - December 06, 2010, 08:05 PM

    Thank you Hassan:)...and i agree with ya..it totally is sig worthy!

    btw it might be worth you watching ones of Hassans videos on this subject of hell ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wyiLR8lTQ8

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