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  • Stupid Question #1
     OP - December 08, 2010, 02:39 PM
    Hi all,

    so i guess there is no such thing as a stupid question only stupid people so bare that in mind when i ask!!

    As ive already stated, im not muslim, not intending to become one but have started researching the religion purely to understand it better as well as create a better context for political/social/community etc.. situations that occur around the world.

    so here goes my first question:

    Many reports suggest that Islam is the fasted growing religion in the world; others say this is only true because of higher birth rates in islamic countries and not sue to conversion while others say it is infact Christianity that is the fastest growing religion in the world (cept i cant find any backup for that) having said all of this..

    in your experience of Islam, have you found that such a claim is warranted?
    do you think its all made up?

    one person i watched on youtube suggested that the islamic infrastructure was coming undone slowly and it would all soon collapse, but he is the only person i have come across who has said such a thing and every other thing i read or watch is suggesting the opposite.

    would love to know what you think??

     thnkyu

    oh, and one other important thing..

     bunny

    that is all

     Smiley
    Beyonce was right; If you like it then you probably should put a ring on it. Tongue
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #1 - December 08, 2010, 02:40 PM
    Several Imams I have spoken to are under the impression that most converts leave Islam anyway. :/ I have met maybe 3 converts in my life. Which is a tiny proportion of the Muslims I have met.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #2 - December 08, 2010, 02:52 PM
    Whenever a claim gets initiated in a mosque or in a TV documentary created by Islamists, it gets propagated like fire to whole muslim nation specially if the claim is made by some mosque or TV documentary in America.
    You would see that even very highly qualified muslims with PhD degrees just fall for such claims, just because they can not even imagine offending Allah and end up burning in hellfire.
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  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #3 - December 08, 2010, 03:09 PM
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    Lauz's Stupid Question #1:   
     
     

    so here goes my first question:

    Many reports suggest that Islam is the fasted growing religion in the world; others say this is only true because of higher birth rates in islamic countries and not sue to conversion while others say it is infact Christianity that is the fastest growing religion in the world (cept i cant find any backup for that) having said all of this..

     Well , as a Muslim you are supposed to FAST and that is a good thing for health.,

    But the only thing that grows fast in Islam is Hair dear Lauz.,

    So where did you read that Islam is the fastest growing religion?? from the guy with pot belly and big beard mullah??

    question no.-2 please...
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  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #4 - December 13, 2010, 10:43 AM
    I don't know the truth regarding this anymore but I'd like to ask why you think it's a stupid question it's very interesting and important to me.
    I'm open for debate (of why we should re-/embrace Islam), but I will no longer participate in this forum. Message me if you need anything. Good luck and may you all find your way... again...
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #5 - December 13, 2010, 11:08 AM
    It's rare to come across a convert who stays a convert.
    In my experience, religion to alot of westerners is no different than a new years resolution, it fizzles out after a while.
    I would say that birth rates are the primary factor in Islam's growth.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #6 - January 11, 2011, 10:59 AM
    First of all can i just say, Thank you for not thinking my question is stupid.

    i am such a "noob" about this that i truly dont know what is appropriate and what isnt.

    This is a subject i am interested in because it has been used as a scare tactic for western cultures who are terrified that this could affect/change their culture..


    i appreciate all your answers,

    i am curious tho.. does anyone have any insight as to why the converts are not permanent?
    Beyonce was right; If you like it then you probably should put a ring on it. Tongue
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #7 - January 11, 2011, 11:12 AM
    Quote from: Lauz on December 08, 2010, 02:39 PM

    in your experience of Islam, have you found that such a claim is warranted?


    No, the claim is not warranted.
    Muslims can't have it both ways:
    They can't both be the fastest growing religion in the world and have a book that obligates them to have an in-depth understanding of an Ancient Dialect of Arabic, which very few people have. (this is,after all, the foundational argument made by them when you criticize it, so by default HAS to be the foundation of accepting it.)

    They can't both be the fastest growing religion in the world and then say 'they are not muslims' whenever a muslim does something bad.

    They can't both be the fastest growing religion and have over 300,000,000 illiterates who 'know the quran is perfect and true'.
    (a contradiction)

    Almost all of the increase in population is down to birth-rates, where children are indoctrinated by over-zealous parents into the Islamic faith; there are very few permanent exceptions.

    The general rule in regards to Islam (infact any religion) is that all it takes to be a part of it, is to call yourself one;
    There seems to be absolutely no requirement in understanding the religion or following it to any extent from that point on.
    For example: Only 1/10 Christians have ever even read the Bible (to absolutely ANY extent,I assume) yet still consider themselves Christians.

    When you apply even the most BASIC necessities on a belief system (such as being able to read, being at an age to understand it, following the most basic of rules etc etc), the final population is reduced by upto 1/3 each time.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #8 - January 11, 2011, 11:14 AM
    Quote from: Lauz on January 11, 2011, 10:59 AM
    i am curious tho.. does anyone have any insight as to why the converts are not permanent?



    Its little different than a yew years resolution in many cases, it simply fizzles out for most people.

    Here is my post on the subject of why people may even be converting in the first place.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=13929.0
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #9 - January 11, 2011, 11:23 PM
    I think a big fraction of all converts are probably women who had to convert when they hooked up with a Muslim. They'll probably dump the guy as soon as the next swinging dick comes along, one that doesn't get all emo about sin and wont force her to wear a stupid head condom in summer.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #10 - January 12, 2011, 12:19 AM
                                                                           signwelcome
    Not a stupid question by any means!It has all the trappings of a bizarre mystery story.Extreme surrealism where everything is topsy-turvy ,the real becomes unreal,insanity changes to sanity,purple is seen as orange...........
    Quote from: yeezevee on December 08, 2010, 03:09 PM
    Well , as a Muslim you are supposed to FAST and that is a good thing for health.,

    But the only thing that grows fast in Islam is Hair dear Lauz.,

    So where did you read that Islam is the fastest growing religion?? from the guy with pot belly and big beard mullah??

    question no.-2 please...


    Lmao


    Quote from: Ishina on January 11, 2011, 11:23 PM
    I think a big fraction of all converts are probably women who had to convert when they hooked up with a Muslim. They'll probably dump the guy as soon as the next swinging dick comes along, one that doesn't get all emo about sin and wont force her to wear a stupid head condom in summer.


     Cheesy Cheesy But till then they irritate and disgust  everyone by exulting about Islam. 'Learned scholars' in their own right!
    They need to be more discriminating about their choice of dicks.If a guy is totally free of viruses of any kind,then there's nothing like the feel of condom free sex,stupid or otherwise!  yay


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
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    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #11 - January 12, 2011, 12:27 AM
    Ever seen a fountain firework? It shines brightest shortly before it fizzles out.

    That's my opinion anyway  grin12
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #12 - January 12, 2011, 12:46 AM
      
    The sooner it fizzles out the better it would be for humanity.She grossly overestimates her intelligence! .

    Who the hell forced her to go to clubs or do things she didn't want?

    Totally fucked up!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khjtrIkYU5I&feature=related


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #13 - January 12, 2011, 01:00 AM
    Bleh, faith shoppers annoy me. What will she be next week?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #14 - January 12, 2011, 01:09 AM
    Islam has a "No Returns" policy.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #15 - January 12, 2011, 01:20 AM
    The Americans are very fond of try outs!


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #16 - January 12, 2011, 01:33 AM
    lol. She wants answers and actually believed that Islam had them. I suppose the only sentiment that can match this is the idea that there are answers in the first place.
    Musa, mihi causas memora, quo numine laeso,
    quidve dolens, regina deum tot volvere casus
    insignem pietate virum, tot adire labores               
    impulerit. Tantaene animis caelestibus irae?

    -the Aeneid
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #17 - January 12, 2011, 03:29 AM
    looove your avatar! Cheesy
    when one person suffers from delusion it is called insanity
    when many people suffer together from delusion it is called religion. - robert m pirsig
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #18 - January 12, 2011, 03:39 AM
    whats the matter woman? buddhism not good enough for ya?? oh no, you dont get to wear pretty hijab..... Roll Eyes
    when one person suffers from delusion it is called insanity
    when many people suffer together from delusion it is called religion. - robert m pirsig
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #19 - January 12, 2011, 11:33 AM
    signwelcome
    Quote from: Lauz on December 08, 2010, 02:39 PM

    so here goes my first question:

    Many reports suggest that Islam is the fasted growing religion in the world; others say this is only true because of higher birth rates in islamic countries and not sue to conversion while others say it is infact Christianity that is the fastest growing religion in the world (cept i cant find any backup for that) having said all of this..

    in your experience of Islam, have you found that such a claim is warranted?
    do you think its all made up?

    Much of Islamic growth stems from high Muslim fertility and inter-marriage conversion.  Almost a third of the Muslim women of the population are kept out of the workforce in Islamic countries and are encouraged to carry out the domestic role.  As a direct result, they often see perceive their roles as nurturers & have babies far faster than the West can abort theirs!

    Men & women are also strongly encouraged to convert their spouses upon marriage or face the potential threat of ostracization from their communities. Consider that in 1950 there were three times as many people in Britain as in Iran. By 1995, the population of Iran had overtaken that of Britain and is now forecast to be 50 per cent higher by 2050.


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    one person i watched on youtube suggested that the islamic infrastructure was coming undone slowly and it would all soon collapse, but he is the only person i have come across who has said such a thing and every other thing i read or watch is suggesting the opposite.

    would love to know what you think??

    According to Muslim sources, Islam is losing 6 million Muslims in Africa to Christianity every year and overall is standing at about 1.8% growth per year, with world population growth of 1.12% per year. Its conversion rate is downgraded by the fact that, according to Professor Ilyas Ba Yunus, 75% of new converts leave Islam after 3 years.  

    Scientology is now the fastest growing religion by % increase in followers, and the fastest growing belief by increase in numbers is probably agnosticism/humanism, averaging at about 8% growth per year in the developed world.
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  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #20 - January 12, 2011, 12:36 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on January 11, 2011, 11:23 PM
    I think a big fraction of all converts are probably women who had to convert when they hooked up with a Muslim.


    We mentioned that in the thread about white converts off the back of that Think Tank report recently.

    Anyway, to the question. Its all about the numbers, puffing up in order to make up for an inferiority complex.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #21 - January 12, 2011, 12:58 PM
    I think right-wing reactionary fuckheads are mostly to blame for this "Islam is the fastest growing religion!" nonsense. The kind of useless tools who say 10% of Muslims are terrorists love to incite panic and paranoia. Is the only way their propaganda stands up.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #22 - January 12, 2011, 01:13 PM
    Quote
    I think right-wing reactionary fuckheads are mostly to blame for this "Islam is the fastest growing religion!" nonsense.


    No doubt they love it, but Muslims love it too and they feed each other. The impulse to dawah announces Islam as perpetually growing, expanding, taking over, playing the numbers game.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #23 - January 12, 2011, 01:22 PM
    Yeah, there are plenty of far right fuckheads on both sides.

    I wish they'd all fuck off to another planet.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #24 - January 12, 2011, 02:18 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on January 12, 2011, 01:09 AM
    Islam has a "No Returns" policy.

    That's a lame joke man. Try this nigga: Islam operates like a criminal gang: You may join come rain or shine, but you can't leave alive.

    Okay, okay, you can stick it in your sig. How can I refuse my gay lover?

  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #25 - January 12, 2011, 02:27 PM
    Quote from: mrsezme on January 12, 2011, 03:39 AM
    oh no, you dont get to wear pretty hijab..... Roll Eyes


    I think she looks ridiculous. Like something out of that Star Wars cafe. Just a little moon face sticking out piles of material, like a little worm wrapped up in a taco, all stiff and restricted. Silly bint.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #26 - January 12, 2011, 02:35 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 12, 2011, 11:33 AM
    Almost a third of the Muslim women of the population are kept out of the workforce in Islamic countries and are encouraged to carry out the domestic role.  As a direct result, they often see perceive their roles as nurturers & have babies far faster than the West can abort theirs!

                                                           down
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on September 20, 2010, 01:53 AM
    Aided by the twin variables of fecundity and cultural relatavism, Islam now bucks the historical trend of assimilation while churning out babies like a factory of reproduction faster than the post-Christian West can abort hers'.

    What a parasitical, poaching, pilfering, plagiarising pondlife Islame is. Why is this murtad allowed to lift from my Timeless Wisdom without sourcing his material? I wouldn't mind so much if he let me play with him when the red mist of lust descends, but when he charges ten greenbacks a ride, why should I let him raid my bottom drawer? If an apology is not forthcoming by the day's end when I repair to the gay bar with a Burgundy in hand, a cigarette dangling from my lips and Billy on my knee, to prison you will go.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #27 - January 12, 2011, 08:10 PM
    Where is that catamite Islame? I will expose him.
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #28 - January 12, 2011, 08:24 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 12, 2011, 02:18 PM
    That's a lame joke man. Try this nigga: Islam operates like a criminal gang: You may join come rain or shine, but you can't leave alive.

    Okay, okay, you can stick it in your sig. How can I refuse my gay lover?







    You are a true admirer of Mark Twain,who was truly an iconoclast beyond compare.
    If the 'try out' addicts in your adopted country were to try their stunts in an Islamic country they would discover the truth--Islam is a global version of their neighbourhood gang.

    Even a straight person wouldn't feel gay about anything! Cheesy Cheesy


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Stupid Question #1
     Reply #29 - January 12, 2011, 08:30 PM
    Who was Mark Twain, Hypo?
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